Seems to me that the more info about the McKinney incident comes out

[CatWoman]

the more foolish people here are looking.

A punch has morphed into a "poke".

Why do I get the feeling that the "poke" will morph into a "punk"?

[billbuckhead]

1. "I want to see the film before I make any judgements"

:eyes:

[Jigarotta]

35. I don't need no film.

I back Cynthia No Matter What.
These few moments will not erase her years of hard work. that's what 'they're' looking for - the erasure.

[hlthe2b]

2. yup

I've especially enjoyed all the sanctimonious comments about "the law is the law" and all that jazz that the RW like to fall back on when they launch their witch hunts. It was clear from the start we didn't have all the facts and still don't...

I'll wait for all the facts to come out...The only thing I know for sure is this is going to be blown totally out of proportion by the powers that be. There's just no stopping this runaway train.

[ChoralScholar]

3. Capitol Police Officer... you have been PUNK'D

Where's Ashton Kutcher when you need him?

[proud2BlibKansan]

4. Yep lots of conclusions being drawn

without a lot of information.

[kiteinthewind]

5. Ditto, Proud! I just pissed off a guy on another thread about the same

thing. He was spending an awful lot of energy tonight and earlier today on another thread, trying to convince people she is guilty!

:hi:

[proud2BlibKansan]

7. Lots of new DUers here lately

If ya know what I mean :)

Hey are we going to get rained on tomorrow? I hope not. The highlight of my week is Sunday at the park.

[kiteinthewind]

I know what 'cha mean, wink wink!

Even if it rains, we'll be there! Just like the troops!

:patriot: :patriot:

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[LostinVA]

62. I've noticed all the news ones, too

[proud2BlibKansan]

79. Hey Lost!

Crazy, ain't it? :hi:

[LostinVA]

85. I'm away from here for a few hours today, and it goes crazy again!

It's like clockwork!

How's the teaching biz? Have Spring Break next week?

[proud2BlibKansan]

87. Week after next

and I'm going to Crawford!!!

Can't wait.

[LostinVA]

95. Cool!

[CatWoman]

12. I saw the numb nuts

[kiteinthewind]

18. He seemed pretty obsessed to me!

:hi:

[CatWoman]

20. *snicker*

:hi:

oh, well :D

[kiteinthewind]

22. Glad to know someone else saw it, too!

:hug:

[DELUSIONAL]

41. Probably one of the individuals I put on ignore

There are really a lot of dumb ass accusations flying.

[CatWoman]

44. and then that "entity"

kept starting new threads.

*sheesh*

[LostinVA]

63. OMG... I know!

[johnnie]

6. I don't get that

When I first heard the story a few days ago, it was that she poked him with her cell phone. The only place I heard that she punched the officer was here at DU.

[jsamuel]

8. the very first day i heard "slapped" "hit" "punched" in the "face" "chest"

so from "punched in the face" to "pushed his chest"

This is all I am saying. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED YET! WE SHOULD NOT ASSUME SHE OR THE COP DID ANYTHING WRONG UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED!

Many here are automatically blaming her. Many are conversely automatically blaming the cop.

[kiteinthewind]

9. There's been a lot of 'talk'. I think she's guilty. Lock 'er up!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x813680

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x817527

:sarcasm:

[flyarm]

31. oooohhhhh i saw that as well and was there ...like been there done that!

gotcha ...and i do get that sarcasm thingy...it had me hot today...i had to go swimming if you know what i mean!!

hi there!!:hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:

fly

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[BuyingThyme]

10. Your point backfired on you.

The people who turned a punch into a poke are the people who are dishonestly attempting to defend what Cynthia McKinney did.

[CatWoman]

13. I strongly disagree

the latest news story says it was a poke.

Did DUers publish that story?

[Gabi Hayes]

16. don't try to confuse this one with facts like these

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/31/AR2006033101889.html

The unidentified officer wants to press assault charges against McKinney, who allegedly poked him with her cellphone Wednesday morning as she tried to bypass a metal detector while walking into a House office building, said Capitol Police sources familiar with the incident.

(source: The Washinton Post)

and we all KNOW what a big McKinney defender the Post, and all the M$M are

I wouldn't pay much attention to the shoot first/ask questions later gits around here, especially the ones who so BALDLY ignore headlined threads on the subject

jeesh

[BuyingThyme]

24. I'd love to hear your definition of FACTS.

Are facts the things that people take from news stories and falsely attribute to others?

[Gabi Hayes]

43. you're the one who accused DUers of making up the transition from

punch to poke.

that's a fact

you accused DUers of being liars and being dishonest. the MEDIA changed the words in its descriptive stories from punch to poke. DUers QUOTE them, with links to support their contentions

those are facts

you, on the other hand, make nebulous, unsupportable accusations, that are contradicted by, uh....facts???



what's your problem, anyway?

[BuyingThyme]

51. Read the OP subject line:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=817527&mesg_id=817527

It doesn't say the "MEDIA" changed anything.

You have again been proven completely wrong. Want to do it again?

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[BuyingThyme]

66. I see. Now it's a media conspiracy, and they've all changed

the story.

:rofl:

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[BuyingThyme]

80. I guess it's kinda embarrassing to be proven so wrong.

Damn facts.

:shrug:

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[BuyingThyme]

30. And what does this have to do with anything?

There's nothing there that says that a police officer claimed that she hit, punched, or poked anything. Did you even read it?

But thanks for proving my point.

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[CatWoman]

26. and If I coulda, I woulda

or shoulda?

[Gabi Hayes]

27. so what do you think the agenda WRT McKinney/punch/poke/smear

might be?

[H2O Man]

28. lotta stars out tonight. n/t

[CatWoman]

34. LOL

not stars.

Freaks.

The freaks come out at night
The freaks come out at night
The freaks come out at night
(the freaks come out)
The freaks come out at night

Discos don't open till after dark
And it ain't till twelve till the party really starts
And I always had to be home by ten
Right before the fun was about to begin
Crowds of people lined up inside and out
Just one reason, to rock the house
But in the day time the streets was clear
You couldn't find a good freak anywhere, 'cause



Now when freaks get dressed to go out at night
They like to wear leather jackets, chains and spikes
They wear rips and zippers all in their shirts
Real tight pants and fresh mini skirts
All kinds of colors runnin' through their hair
And you could just about find a freak anywhere
But then again, you could know someone all their life
But might not know they're a freak unless you see them at night, 'cause



Now the party's jumpin', the place is packed
And when the crowd's like this, I'm ready to rap
But before I could bust a rhyme on the mic
Freaks are all over me like white on rice
Freaks come in all shapes, sizes and colors
But what I like about 'em most is that they're real good lovers
They do it in the park, they do it in the dark
But most freaks are known for breakin' hearts
You could never tell what a freak was thinkin' of
And you may never catch a freak without at least one glove
And they don't walk, when they step, they strut
And nine times out of ten they drive you nuts
But take my advice, you don't stand a chance
Freaks are so bad they got their own dance
So if you wanna live a nice quiet life
Do yourself a favor, don't come out at night, 'cause



Hut one, hut two
Hut hut hut

[H2O Man]

37. But-but-but

Saddam had rape rooms and Angela Davis was at Wounded Knee. Oh, my! The world is just too scarey for some of our beast fiends on DU tonight.

[CatWoman]

40. get the fuck outta here!!!!!!

Angela? Wounded Knee?

:rofl:

[Gabi Hayes]

48. grassy knoll, too

she was the umbrella man

[H2O Man]

53. Is there a certified

truth-teller on this thread that can verify this? One person so pure of motive that we can all suspend common sense, and simply believe?

(She was at WK.)

[Gabi Hayes]

67. wuz kidn about GN...didn't know about wounded knee

sorry

[H2O Man]

71. Trivial pursuit

helps keep us sane while madness rages around us.

[H2O Man]

49. Why you meanie!

"get the fuck outta here"!!!

I feel threatened! You punched me! Well, okay, poked at me. Er, well, you were poking fun .... Many here will want you to be incarcerated for that. Guilty until proven innocent.

(PS: I'll get out my old photos. Angela came to see Oren at WK.)

[CatWoman]

54. you're killing me!!! stop it!!

:rofl:

or I'LL POKE YOU GOOD!!!!

:rofl:

[seabeyond]

61. bah hahahahah. that was funny. what a giggle

thanks

[Media_Lies_Daily]

52. Bwahahahahaha!! Thank you very much! :-))

[converted_democrat]

69. Got a link for that? I'm just trying to make heads and tales of this mess.

"No, DUers decided that that the news story was written by the police, and that the previous news stories were written by the police, and that anything they can find that supports the unsupportable was written by the police."

[Gabi Hayes]

74. of COURSE not

why on earth would the police be also working as newspapermen/women?

the media started out with PUNCH.

now it's POKED

very simple

wonder how that happened

the meme of crazy violent libdem McKinney is now firmly planted

sweet!

lots of people here seem to be quite satisfied with said result

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=mckinney+punch++&btnG=Search

[BuyingThyme]

86. Oops, you changed the police into the media again.

It's so hard to figure our why. I know you don't intend to be dishonest or anything.

:rofl:

[Gabi Hayes]

90. last time, friend

I never said anything about WHAT the police said

you just made that up

my ENTIRE point in this has been the MEDIA response

you reveal yourself more with each energy absorbing post

and STOP accusing DUers of being dishonest. nobody here is being dishonest

they merely disagree with the likes of you

now...scat!

[BuyingThyme]

97. So, your point is that the media have used at least two different

words to describe what happened, and the reason they did this is because of some kind of conspiracy? And further, you need me to pretend that this thread has nothing to do with the other thread?

Maybe you should stick with your other story.

[CatWoman]

104. A-fucking-men!!!!

*you reveal yourself more with each energy absorbing post*

they ARE draining, aren't they.

[BuyingThyme]

84. Here you go:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=817527&mesg_id=817527

[converted_democrat]

93. So, what about that is dishonest?

"The unidentified officer wants to press assault charges against McKinney, who allegedly poked him with her cellphone Wednesday morning as she tried to bypass a metal detector while walking into a House office building, said Capitol Police sources familiar with the incident."

[Gabi Hayes]

94. seriously....let it go...it has endless energy

wasting time

[BuyingThyme]

98. Not only did the police not change the accusation, but they apparently

haven't even made one (let alone two).

[converted_democrat]

99. What does this sentence mean?

"said Capitol Police sources familiar with the incident."

on edit- Added the full paragraph for context-
"The unidentified officer wants to press assault charges against McKinney, who allegedly poked him with her cellphone Wednesday morning as she tried to bypass a metal detector while walking into a House office building, said Capitol Police sources familiar with the incident."

[BuyingThyme]

100. It means that the unidentified officer wants to press assault charges.

What did you think it meant?

[CatWoman]

101. You know what the problem is?

You're the one who needs poking.

Big time.

[BuyingThyme]

102. Nonsense is another way to avoid honesty.

But it's still dishonest.

[CatWoman]

103. there is absolutely nothing nonsensical in my assessment

you really, really do need a good poke.

A jolt, if you will. Fucking something.

Something to end this somewhat pitiful display of self righteousness.

Take a break. Watch the telly. Pet the cat. Pour a drink.

[BuyingThyme]

105. Maybe you should ask yourself how you confuse facts with

self righteousness.

[converted_democrat]

108. So, what are the facts? n/t

[BuyingThyme]

110. About what?

[converted_democrat]

113. Well, you seem to be asserting that there are liars on DU that

are confusing facts, and being dishonest about the facts.. What are the facts of the case as you see them?

[BuyingThyme]

115. I don't have the facts about the incident.

I'm just using known facts to point out the nonsense.

Instead of offering facts to counter or disprove my facts, some people just pile on more nonsense. It drives them crazy because there's no end to it.

[converted_democrat]

117. Look at what you just wrote..

"I don't have the facts about the incident."

"Instead of offering facts to counter or disprove my facts, some people just pile on more nonsense. It drives them crazy because there's no end to it."

Again I ask what are your facts? The ones that you refer to as "my facts" in the sentence above..

[BuyingThyme]

120. The facts are that the police haven't changed their accusations,

that the police haven't made any accusations, and that DUers are knowingly misrepresenting the truth.

[converted_democrat]

107. I'm trying to figure out your position..

"The unidentified officer wants to press assault charges against McKinney, who allegedly poked him with her cellphone Wednesday morning as she tried to bypass a metal detector while walking into a House office building, said Capitol Police sources familiar with the incident."

"It means that the unidentified officer wants to press assault charges."


So you take it that an unidentified officer wants to press charges, but you don't believe that it was a poke? Am I understanding you correctly?

on edit- If that isn't your position please explain it to me..

[BuyingThyme]

109. There's nothing there to indicate that any officer used the word POKE.

The only thing it attributes to any officers (or police sources) is that the unidentified officer wants to press charges.

[converted_democrat]

111. Then why is there no break in the paragraph?

The entire paragraph is attributed to police sources, otherwise another source would be indicated, no?

On edit- added the whole paragraph/ sentence for context-

"The unidentified officer wants to press assault charges against McKinney, who allegedly poked him with her cellphone Wednesday morning as she tried to bypass a metal detector while walking into a House office building, said Capitol Police sources familiar with the incident."

[BuyingThyme]

114. I see what you're saying.

There is a break. The commas are the break. The stuff between the commas explains what the police sources were talking about, not what they said.

[converted_democrat]

116. Look at it again..

"The unidentified officer wants to press assault charges against McKinney, who allegedly poked him with her cellphone Wednesday morning as she tried to bypass a metal detector while walking into a House office building, said Capitol Police sources familiar with the incident."

"who allegedly poked him with her cellphone Wednesday morning as she tried to bypass a metal detector while walking into a House office building, said Capitol Police sources familiar with the incident."


The entire paragraph is sourced to Capitol police sources..

[BuyingThyme]

118. As I see it, the commas are there for a reason.

If it said...

"The unidentified officer wants to press assault charges against McKinney, a U.S. Representative from the 12th District, said Capitol Police sources familiar with the incident."

It wouldn't mean that the police sources said she was the U.S. Representative from the 12th District. It's just information added by the author for clarification.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

119. THANK FUCKING GOD I'M NOT ALONE. THERE'S HOPE YET!

I've been saying this same damn thing for hours now! People's reading comprehension skill have been in the toilet tonight!

I posted similar examples in several posts already, and finally got frustrated enough to post a whole thread on it. So feel free to c'mon over and give it a kick!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x819065

[kiteinthewind]

15. Enough already! Why don't we give the woman a rest! You surely don't

think it is out of the realm of possibility that she may be 'disliked' by some of the CP, given her outspokenness (is that a word?)?
:think:

[seabeyond]

38. but then you arent in agenda are you? poked was given by cops

reported .... not something du defenders of mckinney telling a story. or turning punch into poke. du had nothing to do with it. but you are so far off on your comment from this being something reported to it being a story told by du'ers. how adsurd are you being in this argument

[BuyingThyme]

45. Okay, let's make this REALLY easy for you.

Show me ONE, just ONE quote or statement or charge which indicates that a cop said he was "poked." ONE.

If you can't, then just simply explain your motivations for pretending otherwise.

[seabeyond]

50. ???? wow. you missed this thread? hm...... go figure. here is easy

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=817527&mesg_id=817527

[BuyingThyme]

58. So, you think that paragraph indicates that an officer said

McKinney "poked" him. Well, you're wrong.

The Capitol Police sources said that the unidentified officer wants to press charges.

Read it again, and if you still need help I'll explain it to you.

[Gabi Hayes]

64. here. read some of these. you should feel right at home

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=mckinney+punch++&btnG=Search

then do some work and see how many storie in that nasty libmedia have somehow transformed to poke, or hit, or pushed

take your TIME

take all night

buh bye

[BuyingThyme]

73. They get their information from different people at the scene.

Different people use different words. Why are you pretending you don't know that? And why are you pretending that one report now speaks for them all?

[seabeyond]

65. and becasue the cop says he wants to press charges, does that

mean they didnt say poke. what a funny person you are. hey..... doesnt it tell you something about a wussy ole man that he would have to press charges. oh mommy she is pickin on me. what a wuss. what an ass, dont you agree, wink?

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[Media_Lies_Daily]

75. You can help "with dishonesty"?? Teaching or helping?

[Gabi Hayes]

77. PLEASE! stop wasting your energy!

there are people here that seem to feed on that sort of thing

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[converted_democrat]

88. How is this person being dishonest? I've read the thread, and I don't

see what your claiming..

[BuyingThyme]

92. See #61.

[grasswire]

112. Bah!

You're making ME mad now.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

68. Just curious, but are there any recent comments from the Capitol Police?

[BuyingThyme]

76. According to you, they're all over the DU boards.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

57. Oh, come on! They're all over the DU boards!

[Gabi Hayes]

55. don't bother with this person. there's an ENTIRE thread devoted

to the Post story, which uses the word "poked"

the intial stories all said "punched"

who cares WHAT the provenance of the words is

the POINT is that the media chooses the words it wants to use, and that's what's happening now, regardless of the source

the media SCREAMED 'punch' and that's the word that will probably stick in the sheeples' minds

people like the one to whom you respond here either are too stubborn to admit this, or.....

just let it go

[file83]

59. You mean, the U.S. Capitol Police are defending McKinney???

Could you post a link to your source?

It's the USCP that first said "punched".
It's the USCP now saying she "poked".

Since they are the ones turning the punch to a poke, you are suggesting that the USCP are defending Cynthia McKinney?

Wow, thanks for the newsflash, Edward R. Murrow.

[IsItJustMe]

14. Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn about this little SOAP OPRAH.

[CatWoman]

19. you cared enough to post that lame ass joke

didn't you?

[Gabi Hayes]

21. more than once, too

if the story dies, then let it, but you KNOW the fascists are slobbering all over this

they've successfully planted yet another meme

that's ALL they're good at, besides killing people and stealing elections

[kiteinthewind]

25. . n/t

[IsItJustMe]

39. Do I sense an unpleasant disposition. You must have had a bad day.

[CatWoman]

42. actually, I'm having a very good day

got a lot of gardening done, and it's looking good.

I bought a new weeding tool, and it works marveously.

I consistenly react to non points such as yours in the same way.

[BattyDem]

29. It's down to a poke?

Last I heard, it was a slap. By tomorrow, they'll be saying she breathed on the cop! :eyes:

[file83]

60. lol - McKinney grazed the officers elbow with her left pinky finger....

NEWS AT ELEVEN!!!

[Rainscents]

32. Thank you for speaking up!

Thank you, CatWoman!

[CatWoman]

36. !

:hi:

[dailykoff]

47. Yes it looks like another set-up

like those turkeys that got dumped on Conyers' doorstep the day before Thanksgiving.

Roll over Karl Rover.

[Neil Lisst]

78. these are the same assholes who tackled and cuffed Cindy Sheehan

And they don't work for the Dems, they work for the PUBS, who have run the house for years.

[CatWoman]

81. excellent point, Neil

:thumbsup:

[H2O Man]

83. Cindy Sheehan is scarey, too.

Streets ain't safe here these days. Them lucky Iraqis don't have threatening females of the opposite sex named Cindy (or some variation) destroying the fabric of their democracy.

[CatWoman]

91. speaking of them "lucky" Iraqis

Last night I couldn't sleep -- flipping thru channels.

Came to Fox.

They had a panel of soldiers on, all telling tales about how "peaceful and serene" Iraq was.

Problem is, one of the soldiers had an eye patch on. Eye had been blasted out. Another had this huge stitches scar that ran from one side of his head to the other.

Yup.

They sure are "lucky" to live in such a serene and peaceful country.

[seabeyond]

96. and lied all the way thru that event. until we started getting

first hand accounts contradicting what the cops were saying. then capital police started changing their story. about par, at least being consistant

[H2O Man]

89. Nominated.

Can't believe that I'm the first to do so.

Years ago, Saturday Night Live played a film clip of Kenny Norton knocking out Duane Bobick in about 30 seconds of the first round. Cynthia's savage attack on the officer was no different.

[Savannah Progressive]

106. The most interesting information is

That our congressional representatives have once again exempted themselvs from the laws they demand we follow.

Representative McKinney was bypassing the metal detector, that every other CITIZEN has to endure, but not our Elected officials. Representatives, Senators, and even Presidents should have to pass through that metal detector, because the basic ideal our nation was founded upon was that we would have no royalty, none above, nor below the law. Elected Officials are no different than any other person, and should be required to follow all laws, and rules, the same as every other citizen.

They aren't Czarist Elites are they?

[LeftCoast]

121. Locking

This thread is a flamefest