DO NOT MISS GENERAL ZINNI....watching now!

[capi888]

Lays it all out on the line....he is right on target with the Mismanagement of Iraq War. He is saying the same thing Gen. Clark has been saying.....OMG its GOOD!
PLEASE VOTE THIS UP SO MANY WATCH GENERAL ZINNI!!!!

[hlthe2b]

1. Perhaps you could let us know where he is appearing?

What show, what network?

[maine_raptor]

3. Press the Meat with Timmy Rusty n/t

[capi888]

4. Sorry, MTP with Tim Russert

I thought everyone knew he was on.

[babylonsister]

9. Not on for another hour here; time zones?! nt

[wordpix2]

36. show will repeat at 10 pm ET

[liveoaktx]

46. VIDEO-couple of clips on Journal

On containment and WMD before war

[understandinglife]

62. Thank you!!!!

If You're pro-Bu$h, You're Anti-America

[liberaliraqvet26]

2. DRAFTZINNI.COM!!!!

We need more fighting dems like him.

[ShortnFiery]

5. General Zinni is neither a Democrat nor Republican ...

But one of the most respected leaders that the United States Marine Corps has ever been blessed with.

You see, unlike the Rummy Butt-Boy Generals in place now, General Zinni actually cared first for the welfare of HIS TROOPS. He wants the troops to have the leadership and equipment they need to get the job done. He was not worried about his next promotion ... he just eloquently spoke the truth from a military planning perspective. Thats why many AD leaders like him were pushed out ... toward retirement when the Neo-Cons began to rule the Pentagon.

The true integrity and character of those like General Zinni is not found in the General Officer Active Duty Corps today ... how could they in the Pentagon's Rummy's Cabal of "Yes Men?"

[capi888]

19. Integrity and Character...

wonderfully said...Thanks

[RebelOne]

67. He just now stated on Washington Journal

that he is a Republican and he votes Republican.

[ShortnFiery]

68. Yes, mea culpa, I stand corrected, he stated that he's a

Moderate Republican. I was in error, in that, I had not heard him talk of his party affiliation in the past.

I admit that I was wrong in such an assumption(I must be moderate too?).

Thanks for bringing that out albeit, Zinni, like most of us also judges "the individual" before casting his vote.

[capi888]

6. We do....lots of military guys running for Congress...1st step.

Zinni and Gen Clark have and are on the same page....we just have to listen!!! I love Gen Zinni and his words of wisdom this a.m. Truth without the BS, just as WKC has been saying. Now hearing it from another well respected General. I love it..

[Arkansas Granny]

7. All I can say is WOW! If anyone missed this they should try to

catch it later or get the transcript on line when it is posted. This is some of the most intelligent and straightest talk on Iraq that I have heard. It was especially refreshing after watching McCain's performance trying to cover Bush's ass.

[capi888]

10. I AGREE! Well said!!

McCain was awful....then an intelligent General Zinni, streight talking, telling the truth with intelligence, and knowledge of going to war..

[Arkansas Granny]

17. McCain was a mess. He's gone from saying what's on his mind

to saying what he thinks will get him elected. He's trying to gain the support of the mindless ones who still support Bush.

[Armstead]

8. The show is starting now where I live -- 10 a.m. EST

I've got the mute on for McCain but will turn the sound on when Zinni comes up

[Wesin04]

11. He was spot on

Great appearance by Zinni. He was there to talk about his new book, and sorry I missed the title! Pointed questions like should anyone resign? Yes. Sec Rumsfeld. How about others? Anyone involved in the planning of the war who knowingly passed on things they shouldn't have or said things not true, should be held accountable. Plus, he pointed out there were several mechanisims to report the truth, such as Congressional hearings. He pointedly commented on Shinseki and what happened to him for telling the truth.

Kept coming back to the military--saying repeatedly that our military has performed magnificently, and it's only because of them we might come out of this. Puts blame on civilian planners. This was an excellent interview and bet the book is good too.

Zinni and Wes Clark are in complete agreement on whether there was a need for war, the planning,excution and aftermath.

[capi888]

12. You hit the Nail on the Head!!

True Generals that love their country and speak the TRUTH....how refreshing after the last 5 years!!

[believerinchrist]

14. I think the title is "The Battle for Peace."

Zinni was concise and clear with no spin. He stated things that I sensed concerning Iraq early on. One of the reasons I did not support Bush at all in the 2000 election was because I could tell he was going to go to war with Iraq. I was hoping that, above all things, Bush would lose because I remember the anguish our country went through over another unwise war in the 6o's and early 70's. I'm just hoping that, in our next election, we will choose a person who can lead us out of our anguish.

[acmejack]

15. The Battle for Peace : A Frontline Vision of America's Power and Purpose

snip>
From Publishers Weekly
The intellectual complement to Zinni and Clancy's bestselling Battle Ready (2004), a narrative memoir salted with specific policy recommendations, this volume provides the former U.S. Central Command chief's analysis of America's current global position. Zinni begins by asserting that America's status as "the most powerful nation in the history of the planet" has created a de facto empire. The U.S. has no choice: if it fails to take the lead, nothing significant happens. At the same time, Americans must recognize that, in a global age, there can be no zero-sum games: when someone loses, no one wins in any but the shortest term, he argues. The bulk of the book critiques what Zinni describes as the current U.S. emphasis on unilateral action and calls instead for working with others toward the goals of worldwide stability and development. "egotiation, mediation and facilitation" should be our favored approaches, Zinni writes. And the post–Cold War pattern of ad hoc improvisation in foreign affairs should give way to systematic, in-depth planning. While fans of Battle Ready may grow frustrated with the abstractions in this volume, Zinni's pragmatic, low-key approach merits serious consideration. (Apr. 4)
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1403971749/ref=pd_sbs_b_2/102-0785026-2396133?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=283155

[capi888]

18. Must order the Book...

Thank you Very much....

[wordpix2]

33. this will be a huge book & should put us closer to impeaching them all!

[capi888]

38. I sure hope so Wordpix2

I think the people are beginning to listen to these Generals...and HEY, "Had Enough Yet",,,,smile

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

13. he will be on c-span wash. journal monday 7:45am

[capi888]

16. "Thanks"

I just set my DVR for Monday a.m. Thanks alot GCG..

[Catch22Dem]

20. I belive Clark & Zinni are pretty close.

Frenchy? Are you out there? Am I correct?

[capi888]

21. Yes They are Catch!

I am sure Frenchy will be here, soon! I know Wes Clark has mentioned Gen Zinni in many of his talks, along with General Shinsiki. He has great respect and admiration for both of these Generals, as they do him. We need these guys speaking out, all over the country...

[Catch22Dem]

23. Thanks capi

I agree, we need them out there to show we Dems own the national security issue.

[capi888]

25. Yes indeed we do

Now is the time for the People to come together, and these Generals have the knowledge to educate the masses. They (Clark, Zinni, and Shishik soon)prolly have it planned for a long time, to speak the truth to the American people. They knew this war was elective and presented with ficticious intelligence. They both speak with experience. People will listen...

[capi888]

22. Lets get this up ..

So many won't miss this program....its great and truthful...

[Coexist]

24. just watched it - knr

[wordpix2]

26. we need video of this---one of most important interviews ever on war

by a guy who really knows---and KNEW what was going on.

[wordpix2]

27. he comes on right after McCain's sorry-ass interview

[capi888]

30. Wasn't it terrible???

McCain has sold his soul to win the nomination...I really believe it, I truly do.

[wordpix2]

34. unbelievably bad- McCain now courting fundy Xtians just for votes

it's so transparent it makes me :puke:

[MH1]

39. McCain sold his soul LONG ago.

Well, definitely in 2004 if not before.

[wordpix2]

44. McCain had absolutely no ideas, just said "We must succeed in Iraq."

Sounded just like dimson.

[capi888]

28. Betcha it will be up soon...

Can't miss this one, its a keeper!!

[wordpix2]

59. videos of interview now up on Canofun.com

[Jazzgirl]

29. Another shameless kick.

That was absolutely the best interview I have ever seen on MTP. Zinni smoked the administration and called them on their incompetence. Great job!

[capi888]

31. So true So True. n/t

[spanone]

32. They were 'DETERMINED' to go to war.

CRIMINALS. PERIOD.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

35. This is probably one of the best moments I have seen on tv in quite

some time. Zinni spells it out as it is and makes the case that the bushbots lusted for war no matter what.

Just finished here. On edit... Tim Russert was actually excellent with Zinni and in fact helped Zinni make his case. I need to have this interview for posterity.

[capi888]

37. He sure knows his spelling...!!!

Zinni knew as he was the commander during the Containment of Iraq. He knew the intelligence was bogus, thats why he was encouraged to retire....BushCo and Rummy, knows that any one that disagrees with them , must spend more time with their family. This may have been the biggest mistake of ROVE and RUMMY..cuz these guys are Speaking out NOW. The polls show the people don't trust Bush and their (generals) words are being listened to with more open minds.

[C_U_L8R]

40. Feingold / Zinni

THAT would be a power ticket

Can you imagine ????????

[wordpix2]

42. that would be a hard ticket to beat against flipflopper McCain

These are two guys who have been consistent and CORRECT since before the war

[lovuian]

60. I actually am impressed

that would bring the military vote I bet...

[wordpix2]

41. some excerpts

Gen. Tony Zinni (Ret.) discusses BushCo "Throwing away 10 years of planning" for winning the peace in Iraq after Gulf War I. Said Rummy should resign; "ridiculous statements" are coming from admin.; and Zinni looked at the intel in 2002 and determined there was "no solid proof Saddam had WMD...the containment worked remarkably well." He reported this to the Senate Intel Comm. before the war, to no avail. Also discussed "democracy," and said that it's not just voting that is democracy; democracy also involves education. Cited an Iraqi woman who came to a polling place all excited about voting and she asked the voting official who she should vote for. The guy went down a list of over 100 parties and she was confused but stopped him when he read a name that had "Islamist" in it. She said that's who she would vote for.

In 2002, Gen. Zinni said, "These guys don't understand what they're getting into."

His new book is, "The Battle for Peace," and it should get some tongues wagging in Washington and move us closer to impeachment, I hope.

IMPEACH THE CHIMPS!

[Longhorn]

43. Oh, wow, I turned over just in time to hear him.

Thanks! :hi:

[capi888]

45. You hit all the good points,

Sure hope Many, Many watch this nationwide....

[madokie]

47. And I picked a day to not watch timmy

mtp comes on early here 0800 hours

[wordpix2]

49. MTP is shown again (in East ) at 10 pm EST on MSNBC

[wordpix2]

50. Canofun.com has clips of both Zinni & McCain on MTP up now

[madokie]

55. Just watched the one with part of Zinni's interview

but it just wasn't enough though. I'll look and see but I bet mtp will be shown here again later tonight, I sure hope so as I'm really in need of a feel good story right about now.

[wordpix2]

58. repeats at 10 pm EST on MSNBC

[Trevelyan]

48. K&R Sounds great, where are the transcripts. I do have to reply to the

liberal press is murdering our troops whenever a scandal breaks on AOL Messageboards and a General saying this is great. I hope he doesn't recant like General Pace and General Byrnes.

But why didn't he speak out before, esp. if he was forcibly retired by the cabal?

[Ilsa]

51. Regarding Iraqi elections:

Zinni talked about a conversation he had with an election observer. People were excited about voting, but they didn't have a clue as to who or what they were voting for. They walk up and ask who to vote for. The official would start reading the list of parties and thye'd stop him about a dozen names down (probably tired and frustrated about the similarity of party names, etc) and pick one.

I wonder if the parties further down on the list did the most poorly in the elections?

I hadn't heard about this before on the news. (No surprise there.)

[bvar22]

54. The Iraqis voted for one main reason....

they voted for the US to leave and give them their country back!

[YvonneCa]

52. I just sent thank you e-mail...

...to MTP:

>>>>>>>>>

Mr. Russert,

Please convey my appreciation for and profound gratitude to General Zinni for speaking out about the lead up to the war in Iraq. This controversial action will someday be remembered as one of several great acts of patriotism by our country's true leaders.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>
:patriot:


The email is [e-mail] if you want to join in! ;)

[capi888]

53. Thanks Done

I sent a Thank You too....

[wordpix2]

56. my email to Russert re: McCain & Zinni interviews this a.m.:

Dear Mr. Russert:

Thank you for one of the most important interviews on the War in Iraq ever. Gen. Zinni is a patriot who informed the Senate Intel Comm. and others of the actual pre-war intelligence and steered them in the right direction. He was ignored in 2002 through early 2003 and now our nation is reaping the bitter harvest of an incompetent, dishonest, and corrupt administration that should be impeached---all of them. This was one of the best interviews you’ve ever done.

As for your interview with McCain, you soft-balled him re: his statements on Iraq. When he said we now have to “succeed in Iraq” because we’re there, despite his earlier advice to Bush to increase troop levels, you did not press him on his plans to stay. You did not ask him if he would increase the troop levels now that we’re there, or start a draft if he were to become president. What is McCain’s plan for Iraq? We’re just going to stay there indefinitely with the troops we presently have, whose numbers keep decreasing by being killed and maimed by the Iraqi “insurgents?” Would McCain continue the soldiers’ two, three and four tours of duty? Would McCain keep sending in reserve troops, leaving us with none here at home for any future disaster such as Katrina? We don’t know the answers because you didn’t bother to ask the questions.

You didn’t ask McCain ANYTHING re: the broken army that Sen. Murtha has been telling us about. You did the American people a disservice in not pressing any of these topics.

Sincerely,

Wordpix

[bvar22]

57. Many others believed that "Containment" worked well!

Condo Rice
Donald Rumsfeld
Colin Powell
George Tenet

ALL are ON THE RECORD immediately before 9-11 stating that CONTAINMENT was working!!!
And Potato Head repeats the Bush* propaganda that everyone says containment wasn't working.
I have NEVER seen any of these people confronted by OUR Media about their statements before 9-11!



..."seven months before 9/11, George Tenet testified before Congress that Iraq posed no immediate threat to the United States."

"in a Feb. 12, 2001 interview with the Fox News Channel Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said: “Iraq is probably not a nuclear threat at the present time.”

"...intelligence reports released by the CIA and more than 100 interviews top officials in the Bush administration, such as Secretary of State Colin Powell, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, gave to various Senate and Congressional committees and media outlets prior to 9-11 show that the U.S. never believed Saddam Hussein to be an imminent threat other than to his own people."

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0306/S00211.htm


and this:

" And frankly they (the UN Sanctions) have worked. He (Saddam) has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors." Colin Powell Feb 24, 2001

"But in terms of Saddam Hussein being there, let's remember that his country is divided, in effect. He does not control the northern part of his country. We are able to keep arms from him. His military forces have not been rebuilt." ---Condoleezza Rice on CNN July 29, 2001

http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/powell-no-wmd.htm


2001: WH Admits Iraq Contained; Creates Agency to Circumvent Intel Agencies
In 2001 and before, intelligence agencies noted that Saddam Hussein was effectively contained after the Gulf War. In fact, former weapons inspector David Kay now admits that the previous policy of containment – including the 1998 bombing of Iraq – destroyed any remaining infrastructure of potential WMD programs.

OCTOBER 8, 1997 – IAEA SAYS IRAQ FREE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS:
"As reported in detail in the progress report dated 8 October 1997…and based on all credible information available to date, the IAEA's verification activities in Iraq, have resulted in the evolution of a technically coherent picture of Iraq's clandestine nuclear programme. These verification activities have revealed no indications that Iraq had achieved its programme objective of producing nuclear weapons or that Iraq had produced more than a few grams of weapon-usable nuclear material or had clandestinely acquired such material. Furthermore, there are no indications that there remains in Iraq any physical capability for t he production of weapon-usable nuclear material of any practical significance."

FEBRUARY 23 & 24, 2001 – COLIN POWELL SAYS IRAQ IS CONTAINED:
"I think we ought to declare a success. We have kept him contained, kept him in his box." He added Saddam "is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors" and that "he threatens not the United States."

SEPTEMBER 16, 2001 – CHENEY ACKNOWLEDGES IRAQ IS CONTAINED:
Vice President Dick Cheney said that "Saddam Hussein is bottled up" – a confirmation of the intelligence he had received.


JANUARY, 2002 – TENET DOES NOT MENTION IRAQ IN NUCLEAR THREAT REPORT:
"In CIA Director George Tenet's January 2002 review of global weapons-technology proliferation, he did not even mention a nuclear threat from Iraq, though he did warn of one from North Korea."

www.americanprogress.org

[RedEarth]

61. kr

[Senator]

63. Transcript Link (not up yet - 4AM)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8987534/

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[in_cog_ni_to]

64. K & R He's KICKIN' ASS!

:woohoo:

[ShortnFiery]

65. and taking names LATER! Yes!

He is all intelligence and logic. He is able to see complex issues surrounding this occupation. Oh how I wish Gen (ret.) Zinni were our PRESENT Secretary of Defense. We need more people with his integrity and military background.

I regret that I find no such courage withing the General Officers of the Pentagon at the present time. At the very least they could resign like the FISA judge. That speaks volumes. Instead they kiss Rummy's butt and follow every directive from their clueless civilian leaders. :puke:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

66. shut down that freeper, didn't he?! on WJ now

:)