FYI: Campbell Brown just married a Bush staffer ---pix--->>>

[Stephanie]

Just so we're clear where everyone stands.


?

Campbell Brown, left, co-anchor of NBC News' 'Weekend Today' and primary correspondent for 'NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams' and the weekday 'Today' and her new husband, Dan Senor, former Bush foreign policy advisor and current Republican strategist and Fox News Analyst, smile after their wedding ceremony at The Beaver Creek Chapel in Beaver Creek, Colorado, Sunday, April 2, 2006. Email Photo Print Photo

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060403/482/ny12004030115

[Swamp Rat]

1. Neocon wedding

:puke:

Pox on their house!

[Stephanie]

42. HERE IS JOSH MARSHALL ON DAN SENOR >

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/007980.php


(March 23, 2006 -- 03:16 PM EDT // link)

So we have one more Bushie giving up the (loyalism) ghost and spilling the beans: the CPA was run by a bunch of inexperienced partisan operatives, chosen for their party-linism rather than any experience with what they'd be doing in Iraq. And they -- through incompetence or their lust for a piece of the pie -- let the reconstruction of Iraq get overrun by all manner of corruption large and small.

You can read this piece in Newsweek to get Andrew Natsios' take on what happened. He was head of USAID at the time.

And in rebuttal, Newsweek got this comment from Dan Senor, the fellow who typified what the CPA became ...

I'm not familiar with the traditional USAID program that was recommended. If it was traditional and conventional, it may have made sense for the reconstruction of Switzerland. But it sounds like it was completely irrelevant to the facts and conditions on the ground that we found in Iraq. recruited some of the top career Foreign Service officers from the State Department to serve in the CPA's management roles. We would have welcomed suggestions—from Andrew or anyone else—of who would have been better experienced.

The arrogance and ignorance and obliviousness to the colossal failure he helped manage just defy able prose.

Here's how I summed up Senor's qualifications for his job as Bremer's deputy a couple years ago ...

Before attending Harvard Business School from 1999 to 2001, Senor was a staffer for then-Sen. Spencer Abraham of Michigan. After receiving his MBA, he went to the Carlyle Group, where he was a venture capitalist from 2001 to 2003. Senor left Carlyle in 2003 for a brief stint as White House Press Secretary Scott McLellan's deputy before shipping off to Iraq. Though he showed up in Iraq as a junior press handler, Senor is now Bremer's senior advisor and for most of last summer he was in charge of organizing Iraq's post-Saddam media, an effort which most have rated as little short of a disaster.

Reconstruction for Switzerland. This pretty much encapsulizes the mentality.

It apparently hasn't occurred yet to this bozo that post-war reconstruction efforts generally happen in countries which have just experienced a war. Apparently, everything in Iraq was entirely unique.

In this case, in dissing his critics, Senor confirms their darkest allegations. He still thinks Iraq was sui generis. Working with experts on post-war reconstuction was no more than pissing away time and expense on a tribe of effete paper-pushers. He's unperturbed and oblivious to the fact that the product of his cocky assuredness has descended into blood and fire.

-- Josh Marshall

[Richard Steele]

50. Proof that Senor is a clueless boob. (as if we needed more)

The "reconstruction of Switzerland"?????? WTF???

I'm sorry, did I miss the day we covered that in History class,
or is this fella just too stupid to be walking around unsupervised?

Did he learn his history from Ann Coulter?
Did we 'reconstruct Switzerland' before or after Canada
sent all those troops to Vietnam?

[Swamp Rat]

77. LOL!

:rofl:

[Ilsa]

2. I wonder if Dan ever gets her confused with any of the other

"beauty queens" that read the news on the Today Show? They all look alike to me.

[Olney Blue]

3. I thought she was smarter than that.

Oh well.

[mitchtv]

5. and I thought he ways gayer than that

ha

[Kerrytravelers]

18. LOL!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Bluebear]

19. Explain?

[mitchtv]

79. no explaining

just gaydar, too neat too metro, besides the admin if rife with closet cases, I though "just one more Log Cabinette, so I guess I was wrong.... for now

[robertarctor]

4. Kinda puts her interview with Pierce "ButtHead" Bush into perspective

We really need to push to have these obvious Bush regime suckweenies pushed out of positions of influence in the news.

[Supersedeas]

74. try as you may -- they are there for a reason...and easily replaceable

[alphafemale]

6. Okay...they both look really happy.

And kind of cute.

Can't see evil.

Not going to tear up somebody's wedding pics.

Sorry.

[Stephanie]

8. Nobody asked you to tear up anybody's pics.

I'm just letting you know who works for who. Kind of important information, IMO. I don't know why you would feel you had to "tear up somebody's wedding pics" - if that's your first reaction on reading that a prominent network news anchor just married a Bush staffer, you might want to try a little harder to grasp the significance here.

[Bluebear]

9. No need to get racist.

:hi: :crazy:

[alphafemale]

12. People ARE tearing up the wedding pic. That's cruel and unneccessary.

I don't think that is needed.

[northzax]

25. why not react the other way?

by the way, he's a former Bush staffer. Maybe he left the fold and married her?

[Stephanie]

29. He left the fold to join Fox news.

He's just doing the same job from a different location.

[northzax]

37. hm, my girlfriend and soon to be fiance works for republicans

should I overlook the fact that I love her, and she loves me, because we spend our working lives in completely different spheres? in fact, working diametrically against each other? really?

Welcome to the big city, we all have friends across the aisle, it's the only way the world works. I know several couples that work for different parties, I have friends who work for people I despise, and they despise the people I work for. Even in DC, you know, politics isn't everything.

[Stephanie]

40. could be

But I will keep it in mind when I watch her reporting and interviews, that's all.

[linazelle]

45. I've already watched Brown, she is very biased in reporting

I remember the '04 convention coverage. She and Howard Fineman kept talking about not getting any "bounce" from the debates though kerry clearly won--there was no bounce because there was nothing but coverage like hers saying there was no bounce. Neither she nor her counterparts actually looked at the speeches, the content, the delivery, etc. They just kept downplaying the whole thing to brainwash the public. Traitors all.

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

70. "Neither she nor her counterparts actually looked at the speeches"

Exactly. She has done nothing to hold Bush and his administration accountable, so I think we should definitely find it interesting that she marries this guy who has been involved with incompetence in Iraq.

All these ordinary Americans and Iraqis are being killed and wounded while the Washington elites all go around to their cocktail parties and discuss politics like it's nothing but a big game. It really does look similar to the history of other powerful empires, crushed from above by the incompetence and corruption of the powerful people at the top.

[katty]

83. yes, watched her quite a bit, she is a lockstepper, cunning &

sarcastic-she will do very well with this group-a rising star.

[goclark]

63. I'm with you Stephanie , her job is

suppose to be a reporter, someone presenting themselves as "Fair and Balanced."

I'm delighted that you published this because when we wonder why the reporting of the election results in TV Land don't go our way in '06 and why the screen tallies just "disappear" we should know that there may be some little BRIDE/GROOM/BEDMATE that is encouraging her assistant to make those little tallies disappear from the screen.

She holds a powerful position.

Let's take a little rundown....

James Carville and the Witch...IMO, he has never been as strong since he married her, he is a turn coat and I don't trust him one little bit.

Rush Ball and his lady (they may have broken up) --- don't tell me that that little arranged pairing was not a set up. I have heard that she is really a Liberal, I don't think so. That is some Rethug chatter designed for us. Democrats are really naive that way, we have a gene that wants us to believe that people are fair and balanced.

HA! Republicans are not people and they will do anything to retain power and influence, anything!

I just heard her trying to convince Jeff Tobin/Tubin? that GW probably got what he wanted in the Padilla case.

It helps me to know that she and Rush were pretending that they were in a passionate affair. Anyone that would go within 100 feet of Rush must be willing to sell their soul to the devil for power and money. We need to KNOW and understand what these partnerships do to people.

Trust me, I know, I was married to a Republican and it is a strong influence.

Try reading the morning paper with a die hard Republican!

Try going to glitter parties and/or meeting their "darling" little kids, the influence and access is mind blowing.

[mondo joe]

7. I thought Pee Wee Herman was gay!

My bad.

[CoffeeCat]

10. Interesting that pretty female anchors are attracted to these warmongering

...neocon types.

Remember, Daran Kagan and Rush...and now Campbell Brown and Senor.

If anything, it demonstrates how intertwined right-wing politics is with the upper echelon types in the media. Maybe Brown's choice of significant other helped her land the anchor job. It wouldn't surprise me--especially with the NBC brass.

[question everything]

11. Remember Matalin-Carville and give her the benefit of the doubt

I rarely watch anything of her, so cannot tell. Perhaps she will bent backward to show how "professional" she is

[alphafemale]

13. Thank you.

It's their wedding.

Leave them alone for a few weeks at least.

Unreal.

[Cocoa]

21. I don't think they're reading this

I could be wrong...

[Stephanie]

24. lol!

:rofl:

[alphafemale]

28. You ALWAYS conduct yourself as if people ARE watching.

Didn't your mama teach you anything? :P

I just don't think we have to stoop to mean to make our point.

That's all.

Snarky comments about peoples' wedding pictures crossed the line for me.

[Stephanie]

30. nobody has said anything about her PICTURES

good lord you're over sensitive. A PROMINENT NETWORK NEWS ANCHOR JUST MARRIED A PROFESSIONAL BUSH PROPAGANDIST. That is INTERESTING NEWS THAT WE SHOULD BE AWARE OF.

sheesh

[alphafemale]

33. Pee Wee Herman Comments? please

It is bad form to make that kind of comment.

No matter if you disagree with their politics.

[Stephanie]

38. oh lord i'm sorry, we're all just so gosh darn MEAN

what a bunch of MEANIES we are, comparing a BUSH LOYALIST to PeeWee Herman. You know what? PeeWee Herman was a nice guy, a smart, talented guy who probably wouldn't harm a fly. Campbell's new husband, on the other hand, bears his share of responsibility for this:


WARNING - GRAPHIC IMAGES - SCENES OF DEATH AND DEVASTATION IN IRAQ

http://www.tasinifornewyork.org/souloftheparty

[alphafemale]

53. So you think DU'ers were saying the groom is a nice, smart talented guy?

:D

I have no problem with mean humor in itself.

But not at a wedding picture.

I believe in moratoriums for certain things.

Brief ones.

But moratoriums none the less

[Stephanie]

56. Well then I guess she shouldn't have relased her photo to Yahoo News

[alcibiades_mystery]

76. Why?

Somebody else's wedding picture? Who gives a flying fuck?

All this lace glove treatment, my my.

[Catrina]

47. It isn't his politics we disagree with ~ what he participated in is beyond

politics. What he defended when the horror of what they have done to the people of Iraq, the torture, the tens of thousands of deaths, was condemned, is what we disagree with. Maybe you don't, but I don't admire or apologize for people who profit from and seek glory for themselves by participating in what is fast beginning to look like genocide.

What is even worse is that we are getting our news from a woman who apparently can turn a blind eye to his participation the criminal acts perpetrated by this administration, or worse, perhaps supports them.

'Cute'??? Bundy was cute by some standards, that doesn't diminish the crimes he committed.

This is more than interesting news, it explains to me why we do not get the truth from the media, in part anyway. It seems the war machine hires only its own to deliver the news we are supposed to hear. Many Americans sensed something was wrong ~ now we are getting at least a small clue as to why the lies went unchallenged, and were delivered dutifully by people we were led to believe were honest reporters of facts.

I wish this for them. That their future children are never subjected to people like Senor in positions of power, as the Iraqi children were to this man. And if they are, I hope those who deliver the news, will be real reporters, not hirelings of a regime who think nothing of bombing whole cities full of civilians, men, women and children.

From the post above, Josh Marshall:

In this case, in dissing his critics, Senor confirms their darkest allegations. He still thinks Iraq was sui generis. Working with experts on post-war reconstuction was no more than pissing away time and expense on a tribe of effete paper-pushers. He's unperturbed and oblivious to the fact that the product of his cocky assuredness has descended into blood and fire.

So much for the bridegroom ~ I wonder how they sleep at night ~

[alphafemale]

54. They may deserve all your scrutiny and more.

But with that photo attached.

I'm holding fire.

There'll be a better time to make something stick.

A day when someone bedsides the choir might listen.

[Catrina]

66. I disagree. There's never a better time to tell the truth than when an

opportunity arises. In fact, for possibly hundreds of thousands of dead people, it's already way too late.

Too bad people thought that because of 9/11, they had to remain silent three years ago. Had people's sensibilities not taken precedence over the truth, we might have saved some lives.

I fail to see why a wedding picture should silence people ~ if you don't want to have people tell the truth about your complicity in crime when they are reminded of it by your cute wedding pictures, then don't commit the crime.

As far making something stick, their own words and actions will do that and the choir is growing bigger ever day. It's now at about two thirds of this country, and has always been approximately 80% of the population of the world.

I'm not especially moved by wedding or any other pictures of liars, cheaters and war mongers or their enablers. I am moved by the pictures I've seen of beautiful Iraqi children splattered all over the streets of their native country.

[MisterP]

86. bedside? someone must be sick!

[Junkdrawer]

73. Are you dissing Pee Wee Herman?

Not very nice... :evilgrin:

[tritsofme]

35. She's a prominent anchor?

I follow the news pretty closely, and I don't recall ever seeing either of these people before in my life.

[Stephanie]

41. She subs in for Brian Williams when he's out

She's on network NBC. If you're watching cable news you might have missed her.

[goclark]

64. I've got your back on this one Stephanie

Now let's run down the important News people that are Democrats and have any degree of influence.

( Silence )

I can't name one.


And we wonder why the MSM doesn't even throw us a bone.

[Stephanie]

87. ty

:hi:

I'm not making any claims about her. Geez you report the simple facts and people freak out. :)

[Cocoa]

31. wait a minute, I know what's going on

You're Campbell Brown! :-)

[Bluebear]

32. What did the OP say about the wedding picture? She looks fat? What a dog?

Did you read the text at all?

[alphafemale]

36. The OP didn't the comments came later.

What you would approve repubs mocking a wedding ceremony?

I thought we were above this.

[mitchtv]

80. certainly not ! would they sink to "mean" ?

God forbid someone crosses the line of mean spiritedness. They would never sink that low would they? We've won a lot of elections by keeping our noses clean and playing by the rules

[alphafemale]

81. Please. Snarky comments over someones wedding pic is just stupid

I'm not against "mean" where it can be ironic or even deserved.

But as I and others have noted:

Most casual visitors to DU don't know who these people are.

Many people have mixed political marriages.

Even some posters here.

AND the thread is full of so much middle-school type pettiness that visitors won't be bothered to read further.

The insipid and juvenile comments obscure any information someone might find useful.

The information will be just as true in a couple of weeks or months.

And then...people might actually hear you.

[mitchtv]

82. I enjoy mean

nothing is out of bounds with this RW crowd. (lower than whale shit in the Marianas trench). I am content to root through the comments like clothes at a thrift shop, for the ones I can use again.

[Stephanie]

88. If people don't know who they are they need to LEARN who they arre

That's what we're here for. That's the whole POINT of being here at DU. Educate ourselves and each other.

Fredda, is that you? :)

[Swamp Rat]

44. Would you say the same for Rudolf Hess or Julius Streicher or

Joseph Goebbels?

I say to HELL with these fascists! Dan Senor lied and AMERICAN SOLDIERS DIED!

POX ON THEIR HOUSE!!!

[alphafemale]

55. Most people don't know these minor players like we do.

They just see people being snarky to a wedding photo.

And they stop listening.

[Catrina]

49. Their wedding reminded me of a wedding party in Iraq. I wish they had

been left alone. Instead almost all of them, men, women, children, even the musicians were bombed to death in Mr. Senor's war ~ we did see the pictures of the carnage, and read the reports of the mother who managed to escape and try to flee with her two surviving chilren ~ I don't think this NBC anchor reported that story. Thankfully real reporters did otherwise Mr. Senor would have been able to pretend it never happened.

Like all warmongers though, as far as I know, Mr. Senor never put himself in harm's way.

Imo, they all should be tried for war crimes, and any propagandists who aided and abetted them, should also stand trial. Maybe if that were to happen, future generations of people in foreign, oil-rich countries could celebrate weddings, birthdays etc without fear of being bombed before the ceremony is over.

Forgive me if I don't much care about this couple's wedding ~ I wonder about where the money came from that paid for it though.

[Bluebear]

14. I remember Matlin-Carville.

I haven't looked at him the same way since.

[question everything]

94. He did provide the comic relief for the buffoon Novak

and even riled him to quit on the air and saying the - gasp, forbidden words - Bull Shit.

[JI7]

51. Carville's # 1 thing now is to make sure his wife doesn't go to prison

yeah, he is still a liberal. but he is first watching out for her and making sure she doesn't go to prison.

[katty]

84. carville the loudmouth, matalin, the bore-on their way out....

[CatWoman]

15. he looks like Pee Wee Herman

:shrug:

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

16. Odd coupling to me.

[Bluebear]

17. "Glad to see that Fox has an audience in Iraq!" - Dan Senor

http://www.whitehouse.gov/ask/20031010.html

Will Campbell be moving over to FOX soon?

[Cocoa]

22. will they be moving to Iraq?

I hear the schools are really good over there.

[Bluebear]

23. Not to mention the hospitals. And churches!

:hi:

[drbtg1]

61. Actually, rumor has it that Brown may replace Couric on The Today Show

If Couric bolts for the anchor chair at the CBS Evening News. There are other prospects, but Brown is in the running.

This could put her over the top in some minds.

[Bluebear]

20. "If we ignore terrorists in Iraq we'll hear from them on OUR soil!" -Senor

What pillow talk these two must share!

'Iraq is now a central front in the war on terror. Saddam Hussein's government was a state sponsor of terrorism. His government used weapons of mass destruction on his own people. There are terrorists in Iraq today engaging US forces because they know that if we are successful in building a free government in Iraq at peace with its own citizens, with its neighbors and serves as a model for the region and is no longer a threat to the United States, then the terrorists’ days are numbered.

If we choose to ignore terrorists in Iraq we will wind up hearing from them on our own soil. That is why success in the reconstruction of Iraq is so critical.'

http://www.whitehouse.gov/ask/20031010.html

[Name removed]

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[Atman]

27. This proves the media really IS liberal. As in "fair and open minded."

How else could one explain all the talking pie-holes who marry or date well-known republicans? I guess it simply means the media is clearly able to be fair and unbiased after all, right?

Right? Isn't that what it means? :sarcasm:

[Blue_Tires]

34. chick has a dude's name?

:evilgrin: :silly: :crazy: :dunce: :spank: :wow: :rofl:

[zulchzulu]

39. Gee...I wonder where they met...

Maybe now Campbell can move to Fox Snooze...she has to dye her hair blond and look a little more rough...she already has the clueless stare down pretty well.

[pimpbot]

43. Look at what shes been covering

"Brown served as NBC News White House correspondent and was part of the NBC News team covering the presidential campaign of Republican candidate George W. Bush.


In addition to covering the Republican primaries, the Republican National Convention, the Presidential Debates and Election Day, she also spent more than a month reporting from Texas on the post-election Florida recount story. "

http://www.bucknell.edu/News_Events/More_News/JulyAugust_2005/Campbell_Brown_talk.html

[Neil Lisst]

46. OMG!! Senor is a major friggin' Bush War shill.

Campbell Brown, I hate you now.

[leftofthedial]

48. can she still be a whore now that she married one of them?

[Neil Lisst]

52. Just reading the title made me respond again. Grrrrrrrrrrr.

Senor and Tori what's her face were the two main camera whores the Bushies used to push the damn war the first year. Then they brought Senor back so he could spend more time on TV with the talking heads. They wanted his younger good looks for the TV audience.

Well, Campbell, he's going bald!! So there!!

[NNN0LHI]

57. This is the guy the replaced Baghdad Bob in Iraq after the US invaded

He was Bush's minister of propaganda for a year or two in Iraq.

Don

[chemteacher]

58. Interesting that her politics are RW.....

Campbell Brown is Jesuit-educated (Regis U. '90)

When I was there a few years ahead of her, the Jesuits were doing some fantastic things speaking up about Reagan/Bush I and their nightmarish policies in Central America.

They certainly opened my eyes.

[northzax]

59. again, how do you know her politics?

you know her mediocre reporting, and who she chose to marry, but not her politics. or do you?

You should have seen the party I hosted on saturday night, a little welcome to April bbq/bocce/drinkin' fest. in the same backyard, I had a senior action planner for Greenpeace, a lobbyist for Planned Parenthood, white-shoe lawyers/lobbyists, a Dem speechwriter, a painter, a general contractor, a public health specialist who works in Africa, a couple of your random every day 'consultants', a few staffers for random people, pr flacks for a couple of trade associations (some rightist), a press secretary for a conservation group, two supreme court clerks (for republican appointees) and other random people from the large collection of random people who come to DC. And we're all under 35. I don't care about their politics, I don't want to know them for that, I want to know them because some of them are interesting to me, or have partners who are interesting to me. I ahve a good friend who works in my job for an opposing trade organization. During the day, we beat eachother around the head and shoulders, but once every two weeks, we meet for drinks and hang out. This is not a war, it can't become personal, it's business.

Yes, there are assholes on both sides, no doubt, and it's getting worse, but for the most part, the business of this town is government, and it can't work without cooperation on some level. And there is a growing movement, among the younger generation, to bring that back. The hostility comes from outside the District, not inside it. Believe me, I despise the administration with every fibre of my being, I even flip the bird at Cheney's motorcade every day when it passes me, but I don't hate the people who work for them, it's just not worth it.

[npincus]

60. OMG... eeeeeeeeeeeeeeew! And Couric is daing a Repug big-wig...

according to People mag- I read about it at my Mom's.

[Bethany Rockafella]

62. He looks like Ari Fleischer

[Junkdrawer]

65. Increasingly incestuous group of rulers we got, ne'st pas?

The rulers of monarchies seem to follow this pattern. Keeping the power in the family I guess.

[leftchick]

67. Eeeeewww

and eeeewwwier! :puke:

[WI_DEM]

68. And if Katie Couric leaves TODAY she is the leading candidate

to take her place.

[ScreamingWhisper]

69. Soooooo a hubby and wife can't have differing views politically

but still be in love?
With all the crap that hits the airwaves and papers day to day, I would like to hold on to my thought that not
ALL things are steeped in politics. A fairy-tale? Maybe.
Some others have a very successful marriage and are polar opposites: James Carville and Mary Matilyn

[Hell Hath No Fury]

71. Differing political views...

and a major member of the Bush Adminstration are two different things.

Senor actively facilitated and participated in activities that are illegal and morally repugnant.

A mariage to such an individual says volumns about Ms. Brown.

[goclark]

72. Fairy tales ~ James is totally controlled

by the thought of keeping her evil butt out of jail.

He is so wishy washy , only saying enough Democratic stuff to keep being labeled as one of us.

I don't trusth him and I really liked him and followed his career during Bill Clinton.


He is NOT one of us since he married her.

[Beaverhausen]

75. If you've ever watched her "reporting" you'd know she and hubby are...

...on the same page politically. The thing is, since she is a "reporter" we aren't supposed to know what side she is on. But her right wing bias is obvious.

[Stephanie]

85. We don't know what her views are.

We can only go by what we see in her reporting. Sure spouses can have differing views. However most spouses do NOT have opposite views. More often they agree on fundamental things like a worldview. So I think this is an interesting clue into her character. It's not definitive, of course. But it indicates to me that most likely she leans right. That's simply logical, isn't it?

[JI7]

93. yup

remember Limbaugh's girlfriend from CNN and how she would spout off a bunch of crap attacking Democrats and kissing Bush's ass.

[dave29]

78. awww, how sweet!

I love it when two estates come together

[VADem11]

89. No Wonder

She's a shill for Bush and a horrible reporter. No substance whatsoever.

[WillyT]

90. Just Don't Ask What They Call The Liquor Store At Beaver Creek !!!

:evilgrin:

[SoCalDem]

91. Peewee and Campbell..how sweet

[DesEtoiles]

92. Baghdad Bob gets married