Cynthia McKinney Is Holding A Press Conference This Morning

[cali]

in Atlanta at 10:30 this morning. I hope that whatever she has to say cools things down, rather than further escalating this whole mess. It serves no one well but the right wing for this to escalate.

[oasis]

1. If the Capital cops don't drop the charges, she has to fight back. There's

no other choice.

On C-SPAN this morning, the "Roll Call" editor said that the Capital cops want this issue to "evaporate".

[cali]

2. I heard that.

What charges? It's my understanding that she has not been charged with anything at this point.

[oasis]

4. The other day there was some talk about her being arrested because the

cop was going to press charges. More internet rumors I guess.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

8. Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the "Roll Call' editor said

that the Capital Policeman was thinking about filing suit - not filing charges against McKinney.

This is just one of those issues that explodes into something that should have been a Warhol moment and done. McKinney should apologize, wear her damn pin and get back to work. The cop should accept the apology and get back to work (if he was truly damaged by a push and a cell phone is he up to protecting the Capital? - I'm just asking). Must ado about nothing but is a perfect foil for the fundies to misdirect the conversation.

We should be talking about the infamous memos proving that Chucklenuts and Blair took us into an illegal war where people are dying every day, or the corruption in DC, or the budget cuts that are hurting millions of Americans, or a deficit that will end up with us being owned by our enemies, but no, instead we are pissing and moaning about a brief altercation between McKinney and a cop. This is a Karl Rove engineered media circus and we took the bait.

If she broke the law, charge, fine, punish but down't allow this little event escalate into something it isn't - worth more than 15 minutes of our time. We have so many more things to worry about.

[LostinVA]

3. Probably because there's NOTHIng on the tape

And, if they charge her, the tape will have to be produced.

[cali]

5. There should never have been any talk of

charging her. She didn't cause any bodily harm to the police officer. Even if she reacted too strongly to the police officer, the talk of charging her with assault was unwarrented. That's what troubles me on the side of the Cap police. On McKinney's side, I really wish she hadn't used the phrase "inappropriate touching" which as sexual abuse connotations.

[mondo joe]

26. I agree. The ante has been upped, if you will, to a ridiculous level.

There are security checks in buildings across the country. Most people make them work, and I'm sure even at their best there are disruptions and minor incidents all the time.

[AngryAmish]

6. Crush them, Cynthia

[cali]

7. The more high profile this

becomes, the worse it is for McKinney. I wish the whole thing would disappear.

[bpilgrim]

12. i disagree... when hit, you need to hit back even harder.

direct attacks on what they perceive to be their strengths and undermine them before they can even get off the ground.

she's doing the right thing.

give'm hell cynthia :toast:

peace

[shance]

50. Bullshit Cali. Youre so transparent. It looks bad for those that

created this circus/set up and used the Washington police to do it.

Cynthia was targetted as are so many by this Administration.

[cali]

53. Look, I don't know what you think I'm being

transparent about, but I don't agree that it looks bad only for the Capitol police, and I tend not to believe that it was a set up. That's defies common sense. The MSM will not treat McKinney kindly, and that's why I wish the whole thing had just been settled quietly. Casting paranoid aspersions at me is just silly.

[bemildred]

9. Indeed, make them pay. nt

[cali]

11. Make who pay?

Jumping to conclusions without knowing all the facts in this case is wrong, whichever side you come down on.

[bpilgrim]

13. make the reTHUG spin-masters pay

and the noobie cop who assaulted a U.S. congress person and then tried to claim victim to cover up his cluelessness.

peace

[cali]

14. Respectfully,

I disagree. The more press this gets, the worse things are for McKinney. The best thing is for this mess to go away.

[bpilgrim]

15. likewise

do you think the reTHUGs aren't yaking about this all over the dial?

she needs to confront this as they will NEVER leave her alone especially if she trys to walk away from it.

if someone trys to bully you, you stand up to them, or you will have to deal with them forever.

peace

[cali]

16. sometimes it's better not

to wrestle with pigs. (no pun intended)

[bemildred]

17. Ditto that. nt

[INDIA]

19. It sounds like she was in the wrong.

I agree, both sides should apologize for the mixup and go on with their lives. SHE should stop acting like a fucking moron. I learned to stop hitting in kindergarden.

[Tsiyu]

22. Are you a male?

If you grab me, I'm going to knock you in the teeth.

Did you get death threats in Kindergarten? McKinney gets them all the time because of Neanderthals like you.

[mondo joe]

25. Knock you in the teeth? This is a completely inappropriate

response to physical contact in a busy security check point at work.

[Tsiyu]

28. So are these poster's comments about McKinney

I'm just telling you reality, here. I AM a jumpy woman, and if a man grabs me, I'm gonna hurt him. I understand what McKinney did perfectly.

I will not be a victim. I will fight back. And I live in a world where I have to be that way, but I didn't create that world.

[Catrina]

30. Amazing isn't it? If a man inappropriately 'body blocks' or otherwise

touches a woman, it is considered an assault. But in the minds of some people, it's okay so long as he's a cop!! No wonder we're on the way to a police state ~

I don't know this cop, he hasn't made his identity known, but has had 'spokespersons' give 'his side' of the story. Some people here believe 'his side' despite the fact that the 'spokespersons' were not even witnesses.

Cynthia has told her side of the story herself. Why are the words of people who are 'anonymous' not eyewitnesses, more credible to some than the words of a woman who has told the truth consistently, even when it meant losing her job?

I'm no longer puzzled by why the left simply can't win. We always try to please the abusers (which can never be done, btw) and bullies by this 'let's be fair' nonsense even when we have an actual witness, known for her truthfulness, pitted against an 'anonymous spokesperson' who was not a witness speaking for the cop who is anonymous.

Go Cindy, and I agree, if a man, any man lays a hand on a woman without permission, he should expect way more than what happened to this cop. I think she was very restrained.

[Tsiyu]

34. Thanks for your support here

Cynthia doesn't live in Happy Fun Girl Land. She must be vigilant at all times becasue there are quite a few folks who would physically harm her for her beliefs and her candor.

It amazes me how many people still think we live in the 50's. Women woke up, and many of us are not submissive good girls who will take abuse or intimidation. This is just shocking to some people!

I have to be amused at their naivete as much as I am amazed at their ignorance.

[radio4progressives]

58. It isn't the Left who appease the Abusers...

it's the Racists, Sexists Right Wing of the Party that appeases to the abusers..

Please! Leftists UNDERSTAND THESE ABUSES AND THE CAUSES OF IT.

That's why we are Leftists fighting AGAINST this mindset and this hatred.

[INDIA]

33. It wasn't a dark alley at 3am. nt

[Tsiyu]

35. Oh, that's the only place a woman can be assaulted

Wow. THat's quite a dream world you live in. Can I go there? NOT!!!!

[INDIA]

32. Okay...

In a house office building? After she rushes past security without a badge and doesn't respond to the officer's orders to stop??? Listen, just because she's a dem doesn't mean she isn't a moron. I think most people on this site agree with me too since there has been a deafening silence on the boards lately.

[Tsiyu]

36. There's deafening silence because we live in a nation of cowards

Picture this: You are on your way to an important meeting about an issue that will affect many Americans. You are on the phone clearing up last minute details. You're paying attention to the phone call and don't hear someone call you. They suddenly appear and bodyblock you.

Any normal person would be physically defensive. Any normal person - read: white, male Congressman - would probably push the person away as well. If you are a public figure who gets death threats on a regular basis, you might be a bit rough in your self-defense, but hey, the name of the game is survival.

Cynthia has been harrassed by these goons before. She is one of very few black female Congresspeople. If this goon didn't recognize her, he should be out of a job. He was not protecting her, but intimidating her. My opinion and I'm sticking to it.

[cali]

38. Neither you nor I

have the facts. I don't know what happened. I just know that it distracts from larger issues, and renders Ms. McKinney less effective if she's caught up in all this. I don't know if the Capitol Police force is comprised of goons, but I think your call for the police officer to be fired is premature. Your tendency to simply insult people for having a different pov, is regrettable.

[Tsiyu]

43. If someone insults McKinney by calling her a moron

They certainly aren't immune from being insulted themselves.

Your post only shows the double standard which guides your life.

[cali]

45. Another insult.

How clever of you. I'm always amused by the self-righteous who toss insults around.

[Tsiyu]

62. If someone points out that you live by a double standard

they may be trying to help you, not insult you.

Why no admonishment to the person who called Cynthia a "fucking moron?" Did that insult not bother you? Is it okay for that poster to call her a "fucking moron" because they disagree with her point of view?

Are some insults okay? Others not okay? You have intolerance for an insult toward someone you like, but not toward someone you don't like?

I'm just trying to figure out your selective insult enforcement, here. Honsetly. Because if you're going down the wrong road and I point that out to you, it may not be an insult. It may merely be someone telling you you are going down the wrong road.

[mondo joe]

48. Bill Clinton helped me learn the hard way that even Dems can

do dumb or wrong things.

Like a lot of other people, I had his back when he said he didn't have sexual relations with Monica Lewinski. He made a big fat mistake, and I made a mistake just taking his side without knowing more.

Even very good people make mistakes. Even very smart people do. And even people we love do.

It doesn't cancel out the rest of what they do. It's just being human.

[Catrina]

57. So you believe the media story based on anonymous spokespersons

for the cop who himself hasn't said a word yet that I know of, at least not in public?

Who said she 'rushed past security without a badge'?? She, like many other Congressmen and women wasn't WEARING her badge, which, btw, Cynthia herself told us. But she DID (please try to pay attention here) SHE DID SHOW HIM HER ID!

The problem was, he chose not to accept it. There can only be two reasons for that. He's an incompetent individual who needs to be fired, or he had an agenda! Which is it?

As far as being assaulted in broad daylight?? Are you serious? You live in a different world to that of Cynthia McKinney who is the target of much rightwing hatred and no doubt has received mutliple death threats for speaking the truth over the years.

Even without that, most women (are you a woman btw?) tend to not like strange men, no matter what uniform they are wearing, touching them for any reason. Especially, as in this case (please pay attention again, you seem to not have the facts here) she had complied with this cop's request and shown him her ID.

Where is this cop, btw? I have yet to hear him tell us what happened, or to refute what Cynthia said.

As far as 'most people' agreeing with you, not by my count in the multiple threads I have read here on this subject. However, it wouldn't matter what MOST people 'think' ~ what matters is what the truth is and so far, I believe Ms. McKinney because I have yet to catch her in a lie, have you??

We'll judge the cop's veracity and history of truth-telling when he finds the courage to identify himself. But at this point, Cynthia wins in the truth-telling department. She has excellent credentials when it comes to telling the truth. It is that, that has caused her so much trouble in this country where lies and deception appear to be the norm.

[INDIA]

71. Have you ever worked at the capitol?

I have. I went through those exact security check points five days a week for three months. The officers don't have an agenda. Senators don't have to wear badges since there are only 25 or so per building. There are nearly 450 house members who ALWAYS wear their badges for exactly this reason, they are not recognizable, period.

Capitol police are very professional. I never spoke to anyone who had even a small problem with them, and I certainly never met anyone who struck one of them.

"Where is this cop, btw" Are you serious??? When has a police officer who is not a spokesman EVER come out to the media while an investigation is ongoing? It just doesn't happen that way, it's unprofessional.

If this was a republican female rep I doubt you'd give a flying uknowwhat. I think the situation is being overblown,yes, but not by the police officer, and the congresswoman was DEFINITELY in the wrong.

I don't think she is a moron by the way, I said she is ACTING like a moron.

[bpilgrim]

39. goin wit yer gut, eh?

i'll take the congress persons word over the ever changing cap. police version.

a young, noobie cop, fucked-up and manhandled a congress person and was trying to spin his way out of it with some help from political ops i'm sure.

shoot... he could be another GANNON/GUCKERT for all we know.

peace

[bigtree]

10. demand respect Cynthia

we've got your back

[oasis]

18. So did any DUer in the Atlanta area see the press conference?

[suffragette]

20. Live on WXIA

Found it live here:
http://www.11alive.com/

But I don't have a plug-in it says I need.
Can anyone view it?

[Hosnon]

21. Ah, McKinney...yet another reason to be ashamed to be a Georgian. nt

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[AllieB]

27. I think Zell Miller and Sonny Purdue are better reasons why you should be

ashamed, not to mention Newt Gingrich.

[bpilgrim]

40. ah, more rw slim spread around DU, sigh... n/t

peace

[devilgrrl]

42. Bob Barr another honorable Georgian!

Golly, you people can't produce enough of them!!!!!

:sarcasm:

[Kingshakabobo]

54. I kinda like Barr these days. ACK! I said it. Wash my mouth out with soap.

He's been speaking out against Bush crimes.

[devilgrrl]

64. I tend to agree but I still think he's a serious FUCKWIT!

Shit! He isn't even from Georgia.

[Marie26]

68. Me too

I'm so embarrassed.

[CottonBear]

55. I'm a Georgian & I am not ashamed of McKinney.

I'm ashamed of the GA GOP and of Zell Miller and of cowardly Democrats.

[RebelOne]

24. Check out this link. McKinney Mum On Slapping Incident

http://www.wsbtv.com/index.html

[Radio_Guy]

29. Here is some text

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- U.S. Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-Ga.) refused to comment today about her confrontation with a Capitol Hill police officer.

Instead her supporters used a news conference this morning at the Community Church of Christ on Cascade Road to attack security procedures at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C.

They blamed the incident between McKinney and an unidentified police officer on racism. Speakers said the officer failed to recognize McKinney as a member of congress and grabbed her because she is black.

They also ridiculed the use of pins to identify members of congress. McKinney admits she was not wearing her pin when she was stopped by the officer when she bypassed a security checkpoint.

<snip>

You go girl!

:bounce:

[Marie26]

37. Sorry, I don't buy it

And I'm a McKinney fan. If this isn't true, why doesn't she just deny it? Why hold a news conference if you're going to "refuse to comment"? That doesn't help a whole lot. It's a stretch to admit that she doesn't wear the congressional pin, but then claim it's racism if she was stopped by a Capitol Police guard. He was just doing his job.

[bpilgrim]

41. but you buy the M$M spin on it?

not me, i think a noobie cop harassed her and then tried to smear her, thats what it sounds like to me.

give'm hell cynthia :toast:

peace

[Marie26]

74. A spin-free zone

No, but I'm not sure I buy the McKinney spin either. She doesn't seem to deny hitting the officer, which in my opinion was over the top. The right-wing was just waiting for something like that. I do think it's ridiculous that they're issuing an arrest warrant over this.

[Jigarotta]

44. refusing to comment...

may mean that there really is a case in the works (whom against who, tho?) and lawyers advise not to comment on ongoing cases.

Regardless of the details/truth that may eventually come out - I'm sticking with Cynthia on this one, no matter what. One 'incident' does not negate all her good hard work.

[Marie26]

46. I agree there

She's done a lot of good work & is one of the few Reps. really fighting the Bush Admin. And I still like her - this just bugs me the same way Clinton's missteps bug me. She knows that the right wing's out to get her, why give them fodder? There's probably a case in the works against her, which is why she's refusing to comment. Her comments could be self-incriminating. If this was all the Policeman's fault, I don't know why she'd be afraid to say so. But I guess we'll all find out the truth soon enough.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

59. Since she was wearing her Congressional ID, who cares....

...whether or not she was wearing the tiny lapel pin?

And IMHO, it is racism if you don't check every Member of Congress and Congressional staffer to see if they're wearing that tiny, barely visible, lapel pin.

Additionally, she is one of fourteen black female Members of Congress...just how difficult is it to be able to learn how to recognize McKinney on sight?

[Marie26]

65. Maybe

Could be racism, but it could be just procedure.

I'd like to know if the Congressional ID is something you "wear" or something you "have" in a wallet. If it's the former, that should've been enough. If it's something out of sight, then the officer couldn't have known. In her press release, she said that she "showed" the officer her ID after he stopped her - implying it wasn't immediately visible.

Maybe they do check every Congressperson to make sure he/she is wearing the pin. Since they're allowed to go around the security line, I'd assume the Capitol Police make sure it's really a congressperson before letting them pass by.

She is one of 535 members of Congress; it's pretty difficult to recognize all of them on sight, especially since she'd gotten a new haircut.

And I keep coming back to that point - why not wear the lapel pin? That's what it's for. The more I read about this case, the less sympathetic I get. And I'd rather believe it's some right-wing smear, but that just doesn't seem to be the case. I think the incident itself happened more or less like the Capitol Police allege. The reaction, though, seems to be overkill. They're issuing an arrest warrant for this? Don't they have anything better to do?

[Catrina]

61. He was NOT doing his job competently. She SHOWED HIM HER ID!

This is incredible. How willing even supposed McKinney fans are to ignore the facts and believe the unidentified, anonymous cop, who has said nothing publicly because he has more anonymous spokespersons speaking for him, and even they DO NOT DENY that she showed him her ID.

He should be fired or at least reprimanded, which he would have been had McKinney been say, Tom Delay after Delay showed his ID.

This is, as Bush apologists constantly remind us, a 'post 9/11 world' and a Capitol Hill Cop is not capably of learning the IDs of the Congresspersons he is supposed to protect, and even after they ID themselves, he doesn't believe them?? And you are willing to disbelieve a woman who has never been anything BUT truthful??

Do you KNOW something about this cop that causes you to trust him more than a woman you say you are a fan of? Why is his word (or whisper since we still don't know him nor have we heard from him directly) more credible to you than that of a woman who has consistently told the truth? I'm just curious!

[Marie26]

63. She's been in 5 altercations w/Capitol Police

I didn't know that. All because she refuses to wear her Congressional pin. Well, why? Why put yourself in a situation where conflicts can occur? It seems like she's making a stand on principle - that they should know who she is. The Capitol Police put a picture of her on an office wall so guards would recognize her; but there's still going to be new guards who don't & or guards who are confused by a new hairstyle. There's over 500+ members of Congress; all the guards aren't going to know them all. Yeah, it might have been racist for the guard to bother her instead of someone else, but since she didn't have obvious ID, it's hard for her to prove that. She only showed her Congressional ID after their little altercation. So the guard didn't see any ID up till that point. I would hope anyone w/o ID is stopped at the door. A few years ago, a wacko broke in & killed some Capitol Police officers. The cop isn't saying anything, & McKinney isn't either (sitting quietly at her own press conference). So I'm just going off of McKinney's own press release. I think she was late to a meeting, assumed the guard was stopping her for the wrong reasons & got annoyed. Even so, unless she really socked him, this doesn't seem like something worth prosecuting.

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20060330-120057-3228r

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/8361195/detail.html

[Catrina]

66. Yes, you're right that she showed her ID after he stopped her but

from the only actual witness, which is McKinney herself, who has described the incident, the reason she became upset was that he 'body blocked' her rather than simply saying 'then show me your ID' when he doubted her word and failed to recognize her. She did that, after she got him 'off of me' according to what I read.

As far as not wearing the pin, many Congresspersons don't wear the pin, they use their IDs and apparently can clip the pin on the ID.

I would like to hear the cop himself refute her version of the incident, but so far he hasn't. The fact that they are dragging this out is utterly ridiculous. Were it anyone else, there would have been an apology from the Capitol Hill Police and that would have been the end of it. McKinney already said she regretted that the incident happened.

[Marie26]

67. She "regrets" the incident

This is a pet peeve of mine, but I just hate when people say they "regret the incident" as an apology. I regret leaving my umbrella at home today, but that doesn't mean I feel ethically or morally responsible for doing something wrong. It's not an apology. It's one of those half-truth ways of "showing remorse" while never actually saying "I'm sorry," or "It's my mistake." Anyways, back on topic.

She says he "body-blocked" her, which means he stood in front of her & didn't let her pass. Note that at that point, she does not say that he was touching her or using physical force against her. Once she showed her ID, she was allowed to pass. Maybe I'm missing something, but that just seems like good sense. Let's say someone w/a gun slipped past security & headed down the hall. After stopping that person, shouldn't the police officer stand in the way to prevent the person from making a break down the hall? In the time he takes to say "show me your ID," the person could be halfway to the Congressional chambers. It seems to make sense, from a security standpoint. I don't like that he grabbed her arm to stop her, but if she didn't hear his calls, maybe he had to. No matter what, she doesn't have a right to hit him. I do wish the Capitol Police would just drop this, though.

[Catrina]

75. I don't think she was apologizing, she regrets the incident happened. It

should not have. What has she to apologize for? She is a US Congresswoman, she had her ID with her, a Capitol Hill cop, charged with protecting Congresspersons (which he can hardly do if he doesn't recognize them) claimed not to believe she was who she said she was. He grabbed her by the arm, 'body blocked' her so that she could not reach her ID. Who said she hit him? She did not say that. She got him 'off me' so that she could reach her ID. She then showed it to him and went on her way.

Do you agree with rightwinger Neil Boortz' defense of the cop that Cynthia's new hairdo makes her look like a 'ghetto slut'? And why has the cop' ID been kept secret? We need to know what HIS record of veracity is before accepting his word as gospel, imo.

Interesting that you continue to believe ever-changing reports from anonymous sources, and with not one iota of evidence so far to back them up, btw, yet doubt a woman whose worst crime has always been TELLING THE TRUTH!

I wouldn't let pet peeves cloud my judgement. So far, the only person who was actually there has given her account of what happened. We have yet to hear the account of the other party. In between that we have heard various accounts from anonymous police sources, from 'she whacked him with her cell-phone' to 'she poked him'.

Not to worry though, I'm sure they'll charge her. The rightwing is frothing at the mouth to 'get' this woman who dared question this administration when everyone else was shaking in their boots and cow-towing to their every, criminal whim.

Her opinion that there needed to be an investigation of 9/11 while pretty radical back then, is now way more mainstream. But that's only because of people like her who would not remain silent despite the dangers of speaking out.

To you it makes sense to be treated the way she was by the cops. I guess I have higher expectations from those we pay to serve and protect us. Cynthia will most likely be arrested. The rightwing will cheer, the media will cover it 24/7 while ignoring, as they have so far, the various arrests, indictments and convictions, with many more to come, of WH officials and Republicans Reps and operatives. No wonder the left can't win, they cannot even be loyal to those who stood up for them when it was most dangerous to do so.

Oh, and one more thing. She has not said she hit him, it is rightwingers who are making that claim ~ However, I disagree that you do not have the right to hit someone who abuses you. If anyone 'grabs' or 'body blocks' me I reserve the right to take whatever action I believe is necessary to defend myself from such an individual.

[Marie26]

76. Whatever she did doesn't justify the uproar

We're really not that far apart. I think she did it, I just don't care & believe it's mostly become an excuse for Republicans to try to swiftboat her. But I think we need to admit the facts - she's never said she didn't hit him, which you'd think would be the first thing she'd say, & her lawyer has referred to it as a case of "self-defense". Maybe it was justified, maybe not, but it seems pretty clear that she hit the officer in some way. Personally, I would not hit someone who grabbed my arm in the Capitol; in a dark alley, yes. I have no idea whether the officer's treatment was fair or not - even based on McKinney's own statement, he grabbed her arm after she bypassed security w/o a pin & then prevented her from proceeding until she showed ID. Could be harassment, could be good police procedure. None of us really knows. But there's one other person who's seen all the evidence from both sides - the judge that issued the arrest warrant. It's silly that they're now pursuing an arrest warrant, but in order to get one, a judge had to hear all the evidence & decide that there's probable cause to believe McKinney committed a crime. That has some weight as well. I'm annoyed, not because I think McKinney did some horrible thing here, but because she's given the right-wing something they can use to destroy her - which they've been wanting to do for awhile.

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[cali]

47. Well, this will only add fuel to the fire:

McKinney incident referred to U.S. Attorney's Office
The Associated Press - ATLANTA

Capitol Hill police have referred a scuffle between one of their officers and U.S. Rep. Cynthia McKinney to the U.S. Attorney's Office in Washington, D.C., a spokesman for the office said Monday.

"We are working with Capitol Hill police to fully understand and appreciate the incident," principal assistant U.S. Attorney Channing Phillips told The Associated Press in a telephone interview. "Pending review, it is inappropriate for us to comment any further at this time."

Phillips would not say whether a warrant was issued for McKinney's arrest

<snip>
http://www.accessnorthga.com/news/ap_newfullstory.asp?ID=73508

I'm disappointed that the Capitol police have done this.

[bemildred]

49. This is bluster.

They don't want anyone out in TV land to get the idea they have small winkles, and Ms McKinney is calling them names.

[bpilgrim]

51. that explains why she isn't talking directly

but this is not surprising considering how the neoCONs hate her. and why she needs to stand her ground and fight back.

she was manhandled by a noobie, who fucked up.

we need to find out more about this officer (remember gannon/guckert) and i hope the DA also plans to work with CM to "to fully understand and appreciate the incident".
peace

[bemildred]

52. It was my impression of late that Ms McKinney was a bit subdued

after having been clubbed aside and having to fight to get her seat back, but I think this will put an end to that. If they are coming after you either way, you might as well fight.

[Kingshakabobo]

70. Was the cop a noobie? I didn't see that anywhere??

Maybe that's why he didn't recognize her?

What a mess.

[bpilgrim]

72. it sure sounds like it

but i haven't seen ANY info on the officer

peace

[jukes]

56. loox

like i was deleted for using the "mole" word. fair enough, i was pushing the rules and being blanketly offensive.

let me rephrase:

in my opinion, as a retired federal LE official, the Captol Hill Police Officer used GROSSLY innapropriate and instigating behavior in gabbing a congressperson. these "officers", members of a small, elite department w/extensive training in protocol, are heavily trained NOT to take action offensive to members of congress.

and let me please defuse the "9/11-terra" detractors that have apologized/explained away this officer's unlikely action: if things had ACTUALLY changed since DHS was forced on us as a response to 9/11; FEMA wdve actually done some good during katrina. DHS, as an umbrella for all these federal police agencies HAS NOT proven effective in training or organizing for ACTUAL security problems. they are a showfront for politicizing and providing press-releases & foto-shoots to fool the voters. NOTHING has changed; and NO Capitol Hill Police Officer wd consider grabbing a congressperson (and they ABSOLUTELY recognize each & every 1 of them) unles he/she is acting as an agent-provacateur w/ carte-blanche to try to sully the image an outspoken oponent to the administration. they have used these same tactics to bully democrat politicians to the extent that virtually none of them will criticise the bastards that have stolen our country.

Cynthia McKinney is 1 of the few that will call things as they are, & they WILL silence her.

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60. Thank you...appreciate a former insider's perspective!

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69. Excellent post jukes.

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73. Thanks loox , McKinney needs us now more than ever.

These vicious thugs that occupy the White House need to be dismantled soon or we will all be silenced.