Would you stand for someone you have no respect for??

[DemGirl7]

I will be in this situation on friday when I'm in Washington D.C., and my professor wants me and the rest of the people on the trip, to "stand when Justice Scalia enters the room".I was just wondering what any follow DUers would do in that type of situation. Thanks.

[blonndee]

1. You could stand and turn your back. n/t

[DemGirl7]

5. I was actually thinking about standing &turning my back to him

I mean it is standing after all.

[BuyingThyme]

45. Yes, that's a good option. Bring a book or some thing to keep you busy.

Maybe munch on some bananas.

[cyanide]

42. that would be

AN excellent response if you have the courage to do it.

[blondeatlast]

2. Yes, I would. I still see a place for protocol and decorum. OTOH,

I'm pretty old-fashioned.

You can always mimic Scalia's Sicilian salute--your neck might have an itch at that very moment, you know? Could happen...

[Warpy]

3. I think I'd have to wait outside.

Really.

[benddem]

4. remain seated n/t

[Faygo Kid]

6. Stand for the office. And the history. This isn't the ditch to die in.

Whether you stand or not has no bearing on Scalia's decisions, or the Right's chokehold on our nation. Symbolism is important, but you are not expected to do it alone. Tell your professor calmly and sincerely that you will stand, but it is to respect your professor, your school, and the office, not Scalia.

[July]

36. I'm assuming "to die in" is a metaphor.

What's the big deal if she doesn't stand, though?

[Faygo Kid]

39. If the poster respects the professor, then she should stand.

I take a back seat to no one in my condemnation of Scalia, who shockingly thinks he is above the law. Respect for others and tradition are not part of his agenda. That is a good reason to stand. Then fight like hell to get a president elected who will never nominate a Scalia.

[FloridaPat]

7. I went to an Amway conference once and Ollie North was the speaker.

20,000 Amway folks there. As Ollie was giving his speech, he got tons of standing ovations. There were 3 of us within my eyesight that just sat there and did nothing. Amazingly, no comments or repercussions.

However, if it is a court case you're watching, watch the rest of the audience and see what they do. If they stand for everyone, that's one thing. If it's out of court and just some kind of meeting, sitting would work.

[electropop]

12. Yikes.. Amway.. Ollie...

My head would have imploded.

[Pithy Cherub]

8. Ask your professor what forms of silent protest

would he recommend? Dissent being the highest form of patriotism...;)

[CoffeeCat]

9. You could stand....and do other things...

...like roll your eyes, sigh and say, "Oh JEEZ enough with the radical right wing freak speech, will ya!"

After all...you'd be standing while you did these things--just as your professor asked you to do.

hehe ;)

[patrice]

10. You could wear a wide black silk armband on a white blouse.

Or something very ethnic and maybe a little out-of-place. Something too individual.

A pin on your jacket.

Or say something unusual when he says hello. Something you're not supposed to say.

You could quietly refuse to shake hands with him. He would know and that would be enough.

I've got it, Laugh at the wrong time! Not toooo conspicuously, but definitely laugh, innocently.
But, be prepared, because it will probably bother him or someone else.

I think I'd just not shake his hand.

Think about the shape of the room when you pick your seat, being a little on the periphery makes you less his.

[electropop]

11. Offer the Scalia Salute!

You know, one hand under your chin...

[radio4progressives]

13. Please Refuse out of Protest...

Or bring that photo with you and stand, holding it up front for all the room to see...

[Staph]

14. Stand in respect for the office.

Do not applaud. Do not react. Do not shake his hand. Just stand.

[radio4progressives]

15. No.. I disagree - Scalia has defaced the office ..

And he does not symbolize what it should represent in this country.

[NYCGirl]

18. He may have, but the office is still the office. And for all its history,

it deserves respect.

[cyanide]

43. Don't agree

They lose touch with the people.

This would be good in so many ways.

[radio4progressives]

16. Take this With You...

[Carni]

17. MOON HIM

OK I can't say that because you'll ruin your future...but if I were 23 years younger I would be damned tempted.

[annabanana]

19. was he the ONLY Justice your Prof could get?

I would probably stand, but I'd slouch and fidgit and scratch myself, belch, look at the ceiling, yawn, make rude comments under my breath...

[DemGirl7]

25. I don't how the decision was made, but I was kind of shocked

Because my University is VERY LIBERAL, there are few Republicans/Conservatives on campus, and if the case was Scalia coming to my campus, the majority of the student body would probably protest him. When I told my friends about meeting with Scalia, they were shocked too, and were like ""Scalia??? You would of thought you'll be meeting with Ginsburg instead" Plus I talked with my Professor, and he wasn apparently not too thrilled with ending up with Scalia.

[Neil Lisst]

20. screw your professor's expectations! perfect moment to sit down

We must have individual, single, nonviolent, legal, but symbolic gestures as this. We must have it. We can chip this fascism away, but first, people must be given role models.

Be a role model.

Stay seated, and recruit others to do so ahead of time. If you can get 50, get 50.

Ass kissing the royal election fixer is not in your job description. Stay seated for America.

[Cleita]

21. Stand and turn your back,

but only do it if you won't get into trouble. Scalia isn't worth bad notes on your transcript or worse. There is the point that you should respect the office if not the man, but I'm not 100% convinced that this is a valid argument. It could be something to keep in mind though so you don't feel completely soiled if you have to do it.

[YouthInAsia]

22. Not in this case, no. If it were merely a personal matter, that

would be different. But not in this case. This man is a fascist, a homophobe and antiwomen. There's no chance I would stand for this guy. ZERO

[Inland]

23. Oh, for fuck's sake. Stand? Well, shit, this is what I would do.

You aren't in his courtroom. He isn't a head of state. There's no standing for respect of office of a judge. There's no cap doffing. What kind of shit is this?

But you know what, your professor, who is an idiot, is now going to force the choice on you.

What I would do is stand, not because I give a shit what Scalia thinks or vice versa, but because there's no point to sitting when your professor has already wet himself at the thought of getting his class to kiss Scalia's ass.

[incapsulated]

24. Yeah, what Inland said.

There is no protocal for a visit from a judge. Your professor is creating one, which I can understand, it is a rather big deal to get a SCOTUS in front of your class.

But I would sit in protest. Of course, I was always the kid doing shit like this and I'm a bad influence, as any of my former teachers would tell you. :)

[WillyT]

26. OK... I'm Confused Here...

I'm assuming that although you are gonna be in D.C., this is not about standing when all of the Justices enter the room in the building known as the Supreme Court of the United States. Correct?

:shrug:

[Garbo 2004]

27. Fall to the floor and pretend to have a seizure, shouting "unclean! Get

thee hence, foul spirit!"

Clearly, I'm of little help. ;)

In a courtroom, I'd stand as per court protocol, but any other place? Eh, probably not unless detention in Gitmo was a possible consequence. Is there some protocol that one must stand when a member of the SCOTUS enters a room? What's the standard protocol in such circumstances?

[Inland]

28. Okay, this is what I do. GOD I'M BRILLIANT.

Show up in a wheelchair. Then, when Scalia enters, make a huge show of struggling to your feet, so wanting to show proper respect. Then fall. Repeat as he closes. It'll be marvelously disruptive, it's performance art. Don't tell anyone what you are doing, maintain deniability.

[incapsulated]

29. That is both sick *and* brilliant!

I would also kinda crawl on the floor and up his chest for full effect. :thumbsup:

[Inland]

31. That's actually my family crest.

"Infirmus Et Splendens" over a TV supported by two housecats.

[incapsulated]

33. Dang, everything sounds better in latin.

:)

[Inland]

34. Babel Fish, curiously, doesn't have latin.

I never had a need before now.

[incapsulated]

35. And I lost my English to Latin dictionary

Thus robbing me of my ability to sound terribly clever, in a overeducated, snobbish way. Ah, me.

[July]

37. Okay, that was really funny.

I'm picturing it now.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

30. You are a free person. Do what you think best.

As for me, I wouldn't stand for a fascist like Scalia.

[mondo joe]

32. I had to shake Tommy Thompson's hand once, and I was just glad it

wasn't Bush.

But Scalia is worse than Thompson.

[July]

38. Why does the professor ask for this?

Do you know? Is this SOP for visitors to the professor's classroom?

To answer your question, hell no, I wouldn't stand for Scalia. I wouldn't make a scene, either, but I would reserve the right to show my lack of respect for the guy quietly. There are only a few people I'd respond to this way, since I really loathe confrontation, even if indirect, but I just couldn't fake it for Scalia. I couldn't do it for Bush or Cheney, either.

[Solly Mack]

40. Nope

I know the notion that one should respect the office plays well with a lot of people - but I don't buy it.

I wouldn't announce to the whole class that "I'm not standing" - I just wouldn't stand. If anyone had something to say to me about it, they'd better be prepared for a less than nice response.

[BuyingThyme]

41. No, not in this situation.

He has no authority in such a forum.

You, as his employer, do, however. He should stand for you.

[pitohui]

44. to be polite i will

i say let scalia be the ass and don't you be the ass, let everybody enjoy their field trip unless you have a genuine targeted message to get across that would be got across by not standing

i suspect the only message that would get across if you didn't stand is that you are discourteous, thus i see it as an ineffective form of protest

[0007]

46. Turn your back or give Scalia "The Scalia Salute" when he or you

leave the room.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

47. At the Oscars a few years back...

artists were faced with the same quandry: stand and applaud for director Elia Kazan's acceptance of a Lifetime Achievement Oscar or remain seated in recognition of his caving in to HUAC and the blacklisting of Hollywood "reds".

Many chose to stand out of respect for his body of work, others refused to.

I would have chosen to not stood up. I have beem faced with the choice in my own life -- I have refused to say the Pledge of Allegiance and the Our Father at events at which they were included. I felt uncomfortable and got some stares, but my sense of what is right ann wrong were more important to me.

At the end of the day, it's up to every individual to make their own decision.

On edit: There is one appropriate place to stand for Scalia, and that is if you were appearing before the Supreme Court and he was acting in his capacity as Chief Justice. It's courtroom etiquette.

[ieoeja]

48. Where is this?

Is this going to be when the judge enters the court? Then, yes, I would. That would be showing respect for the institution despite the man.

If you're just going somewhere where he is a speaker, then I probably would not as that would be showing respect for the individual.

[progressivebydesign]

49. I say drop something out of your purse as you rise...

.. then spend a few mintues hunched over behind the others, looking for it and picking it up. It's sort of a clothed mooning. If you are not in a courthouse, you do not have to stand for the judge. He's not a king.. he's a really hypocritical, anti-woman, justice.