Ah SHIT!!!!! Dem Meeks may enter Illinois Governors race! DAMN it!

[in_cog_ni_to]

That means he'll take Blagojevich votes and the DEMOCRATS WILL LOSE IN NOVEMBER!!! WTF is wrong with Democrats??? SOMEONE needs to talk to Meeks and tell him to sit this one out! FUCK!


I just heard this on Washington Journal C-SPAN.:cry:

[C_U_L8R]

1. Doesn't he have a crop report to steal for the Dukes

sorry coffee hasn't kicked in yet :-)

[Starbucks Anarchist]

5. LOL, great reference!

BTW, Trading Places on DVD is only $7 on Amazon. It's the remastered version that came out a couple of years ago. :D

EDIT: Did you know G. Gordon Liddy was offered the role of Clarence Beeks, but turned it down? There's a reference to it when the actor who did play him is shown reading one of Liddy's books. Saw it on IMDB.

[Rowdyboy]

2. They've already had the Democratic primary.....

Is he dumb enough to run as an independant to deliberately elect Topinka?

[in_cog_ni_to]

6. YES. He IS dumb enough!

That must be his plan!:grr:

[KharmaTrain]

3. The Machine Says No

Here's a machine that was able to elect a candidate who had just suffered a stroke and we still don't know if he'll be able to show up for work again.

Blago's pissed off people, but there's few alternatives (Judy Bozo-Hair Topinka???) for even the blacks to turn to. Meeks isn't that well known and methinks this is more to get some PR for a Chicago mayoral run next year than it is for anything else.

Those reports on WJ are loaded with right wing spin and misinformation. Some mornings I swear Bob Novak faxed his column over.

[wndycty]

4. Woah there. . .

. . .I agree Meeks should not run, HOWEVER someone better listen to him before talking to him telling him not to run. Do you read the Defender, do you listen to WVON-AM? Do you how unhappy Black Democrats are?

Meeks running is bad news, but unless you want to address the issues that lead to his run shutting him up and sitting him down is bad politics. If white grassroots candidates can challenge Democratic incumbents (Ned Lemont on CT for one), then we should not try to silence Black candidates. I DON'T WANT MEEKS TO RUN, but the conditions that is giving him the support to run need to be addressed. The Democrats have to stop taking us (African Americans) for granted.

[in_cog_ni_to]

7. Then he should have run in the PRIMARY. n/t

[wndycty]

10. Why? He ran for the Illinois Seante as an Independent

Look at his bio. I think its kind of insulting to assume he is a Democrat just because he is Black.

http://www.ilga.gov/senate/Senator.asp?GA=94&MemberID=1051

TRUST ME!!! The thought of Meeks spoiling Rod's re-election sickens me to no end, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO TELL HIM NOT TO RUN. I would rather the conditions that are prompting his candidacy be addressed.

[in_cog_ni_to]

13. FINE. I want Meeks to run! I want to lose the Governors House

and give the fucking CORRUPT REPUKES control of Illinois again! Yeah! Then they'll be able to RIG OUR FREAKIN' EVOTING MACHINES ALL OVER THE STATE. Yeah...this is a GOOD THING. I'm all for it.

Go MEEKS Go! We need another corrupt repuke state!

WOOHOO! Whatever he does is GOOD. Don't deal with AA issues in any other way...RUN FOR GOVERNOR AND GIVE THE REPUKES THE GOVERNORS HOUSE! Yeah, I like it!:thumbsup:

I think its kind of insulting to assume he is a Democrat just because he is Black. How dare you.


Hmmmmmm......Is that a D I see next to his name? I'm not going to say to you what I WANT TO SAY to you because, since I "know" you, I will be more resectful to YOU than you are to me. Also, are the AA the ONLY CHILDREN who go to Illinois schools? As I read THIS below, it seems the "no new taxes" and educational funding are what's got Meeks pissed off. I just repeated what I heard on C-SPAN. So....take your "insulted" attitude and....

ILLINOIS. State Senator James Meeks (D) is threatening to jump into the gubernatorial contest as an Independent -- and he is doing so knowing his candidacy would likely draw votes away from embattled Governor Rod Blagojevich (D) in the black community. The move is a ploy by Meeks and some of the other members of the Illinois Legislative Black Caucus to force Blagojevich withdraw his "no new taxes" pledge for his second term. Meeks believes the pledge would block any real increase in educational funding.
Posted by Ron Gunzburger - 03.27.06

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:NJ5cXFFatk0J:www.politics1.com/+Illinois+Meeks+may+enter+Governors+race&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1



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[in_cog_ni_to]

14. Here:

Sen. Meeks filed to run as a Democrat in the upcoming general election for his State Senate District needing 1,000 valid signatures. To run as an independent for State Senate, he would have needed 5,600 valid signatures in 90 days. A "new" party candidate would need 2,800 valid signatures in the 15th District.

IF he runs for Governor, he will NOT be an independent candidate. It's too late to run as an independent because of the pro-incumbent, discriminatory rules the Rs and Ds wrote. Illinois has the earliest deadline for independent statewide candidates of any state in America.

The petitioning period for independents was September 20th until December 19th, 2005. For "new" party candidates the petitioning period is March 28th to June 26th, 2006.

Theoretically, Sen. Meeks could run for Governor as an independent if Speaker Madigan and the General Assembly passed a bill changing the deadline, much like they did for President Bush in 2004. I doubt that will happen. There is also a current court case tackling this anti-democratic law, Lee v Illinois Board of Elections, but it will unlikely be decided in time for this election.

http://capitalfax.blogspot.com/2006/03/state-sen-james-meeks-is-not.html

[in_cog_ni_to]

15. Here:

Meeks, a passionate South Side pastor, was elected to the Illinois Senate four years ago as an independent, but ran for re-election as a Democrat in the primary last week. He serves as the leader of the Legislative Black Caucus and was a prime sponsor of last year's bill that would have raised the state's income tax to provide more money for public education and help close the state's budget gap.

Initially, his murmurs about running against his friend, the governor, were painted as a not-so-subtle attempt to shake down another $4 billion or so for education in the state budget.

But now it seems money for schools isn't the only reason he might run: He's offering himself as the morally superior candidate. He's banking that his anti-abortion and anti-gay rights beliefs will connect with white conservative Christian voters who will be turned off by the more moderate views of both Topinka and Blagojevich.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/richards/cst-edt-cindy29.html


OH GREAT! he's anti-CHOICE and anti-GAY. That's just peachy. Yeah...he should run.

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. Just one more article that shows Meeks as a Democrat:

In recent years, the Shaws have suffered a string of defeats engineered by Jackson, their political nemesis. First, William Shaw lost his state Senate seat in 2002 to Jackson-backed James Meeks (D-Chicago).

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/southsouthwest/chi-0603080255mar08,1,1118762.story?coll=chi-newslocalssouthwest-hed

[KharmaTrain]

8. Meeks Isn't The Right Messenger

I'd agree with you that there's a lot of unrest in the black community. A majority of it is directed at Richie Daley and I see this as manuevering to get some buzz and PR for next year's election.

I wouldn't be surprised if you see a low turn-out this year in Illinois. Repugnicans are not happy with their choices and I know a lot of Democrats who can't even hold their nose to vote for Blago, but sure won't vote for Bozo-Topinka...they'll stay at home as well.

If you're looking for black political muscle to flex...it'll be directed toward next year's Chicago mayoral election.

[wndycty]

11. No Meeks fan here. . .

. . .and trust me I will be working against him, I already have been. But I resent the fact that many DUers support white grassroots candidates taking on the establishment Democrats (Ned Lemont again) yet when a Black candidate who is not even a Democrat does it he must be stopped. I just think there are double standards out there. If Ned Lemont can enter a race and put a safe seat into play in CT why should Meeks not be afforded the same courtesy and I repeat he is not even a Democrat.

[KharmaTrain]

12. It's The Quality Of The Candidate

I'll say I'm tired of a lot of the knee-jerking I see of DU'ers about local elections and races based strictly on labels and face value without taking a little time to study the lay of the land before they make their judgements.

Meeks, as I'm sure you know, is an unknown...a loose canon. He'll be lucky to poll 10% in the black wards of Chicago, yet alone be a serious challenge. While Lemont is running as a conduit for what appears to be a broad and growing number of Conn. voters, Meeks can't say the same thing. It'd be another story if this were a Jesse Jackson Jr. or Bobby Rush or more respected and high profile black leader.

Meeks is trying to get a lot of PR here...which I suspect is to get into the Chicago primaries next spring...and if he's given attention and a podium, he could be trouble for the "establishment" Democrats....but I don't see a Harold Washington on the immediate horizon here.

Cheers...

[qanda]

9. "The Democrats have to stop taking us (African Americans) for granted."

Amen!!!!!

[warrens]

17. He'll drop out again

This is just a publicity stunt. He has no money, no backing. As a write-in or independent (the primary is over, Blago won) he won't even register with most people.

[in_cog_ni_to]

18. I hope so. n/t