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old_techie Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 08:43 AM
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Huge H-1B increase in Senate immigration bill
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JOB DESTRUCTION NEWSLETTER
by Rob Sanchez
April 03, 2006 No. 1450
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The Senate Judiciary approved immigration "reform" legislation that will
now go to the entire Senate to vote on. Embedded within the bill is a huge
increase in H-1B and F-4 visas. There is almost no mention of the H-1B
increase in the American press because the debate is obscured by pundits
who only want to discuss guest worker visas for low paid jobs such as farm
work. The conveniently forget the fact that not only low paying farm jobs
and landscaping are affected by guest worker visas. The Indian press is
well aware of the H-1B increase and doesn't mince words about what it
means:
" United States Senate majority leader Bill Frist is hopeful that a
full vote in the upper house would clear a comprehensive
immigration reform bill that includes provisions for hefty
increases in the H1 B visas mainly availed by Indian IT
professionals. "

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 08:44 AM
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1. LOL
Enjoy your outsourced job that's going away

Evil Frist one more time
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 08:48 AM
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2. Frist will burn with this one...
this is really what Republicans want the H1B immigrant not the Mexican immigrant...

hypocrite!!!
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old_techie Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 09:28 AM
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7. bipartisan
McCain and Pelosi are all for the Bush guestworker plan too. They are all out to screw all of us.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 08:49 AM
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3. My outsourced job went away years ago
Michael Dell was a pioneer in the H1B business. There are a lot of very good engineers in India, extremely competent people who work for a fraction of what a comparably skilled person here needs to earn.

Damn shame I'm not younger, at least I could fall back on manual labor. I wasted a lot of time and money on an expensive and now useless education. Thanks Bill, Mike and rest of you rich assholes...
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 10:35 PM
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15. McCains going to pay us $50.00 hr to pick lettuce.
:sarcasm:
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 08:55 AM
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4. I was an AS400 programmer for many years
Many of those jobs went largely offshore years ago, and for those that did not, some consulting groups brought in teams of programmers to work locally.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 09:07 AM
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5. If you have a link, send it to CNN c/o Lou Dobbs. n/t
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 09:07 AM
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6. Bye Bye Middle Class...
Damn it! :grr:
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 09:32 AM
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8. Corporate America is killing the goose that lays the golden eggs
This is a consumer driven economy, the vital part that makes the engine go is the consumer, right. So what in the hell do they plan to do when us consumers stop buying, due to the fact that we have no money? This just doesn't make sense to me. Take away all of those good paying, even mediocre paying jobs away from us, and what do they expect us to buy their crappy products with, Monopoly money?

Idiots are in charge, sad to say, and for their own short term gain, they are going to sacrifice the long term good of this country. Idiots:grr:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 10:30 PM
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13. Government money should be wages for US workers NOT
HIB Visa employees...
such corruption somebody needs to sue them...
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 09:34 AM
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9. The IT department at Fannie Mae
Edited on Tue Apr-04-06 09:35 AM by LiberalEsto
(Federal National Mortgage Administration) in DC is already about 1/3 H1Bs, mostly from India. That has resulted in a large number of unemployed or underemployed American information technology professionals, who used to have decent middle-class jobs.

I think there should be a law preventing federal departments and agencies, or quasi-federal ones such as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, from hiring non-citizens as opposed to Americans.

There is a veteran preference in federal hiring. Democrats in the House and Senate should be fighting tooth and nail for an American citizen preference in all federal jobs, and in all Federal contracting.

We should be doing the same thing on the state and local government levels.
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old_techie Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 09:46 PM
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10. privacy policy?
Are they handling personal information of applicants?
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:56 AM
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16. I'm not sure what you are asking.
Can you explain?


All I know is that I have a close friend who works in their IT department, and he knows who his co-workers are.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 09:55 PM
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11. Wonderful............
Outsource half the work, while then bringing in H-1B's in to do the other half.

Have a link?
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old_techie Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 10:11 PM
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12. newsletter source is
www.zazona.com
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 10:33 PM
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14. H-1B workers earn less than American counterparts, report says
News Story by Patrick Thibodeau

JANUARY 03, 2006 (COMPUTERWORLD) - WASHINGTON -- H-1B visa IT workers earn on average $13,000 less than their American counterparts, according to a study of U.S. Department of Labor records released by the Center for Immigration Studies.

H-1B workers are paid less, even though the law requires that they receive prevailing wages, according to the study by John Miano, a former chairman of the Programmers Guild, a group that has been critical of the H-1B program.

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The H-1B "has destroyed the entry level job market," Miano said in an interview, adding that he believes keeping the cap at its current 65,000 level will at least minimize the damage.

Recommendations for improving the wage disparity, which can put downward pressure on the rates paid to U.S. workers, include limiting the number of H-1B visas that an employer can obtain each year based on the number of U.S. employees at each company, as well as requiring companies to use a “standard wage source” produced by the federal government when making prevailing-wage claims.

The report also suggests that the ability of H-1B workers to seek better wages from other employers be limited. The H-1B visa has a six-year limit but allows the foreign worker to apply for permanent residency. While visa holders can change jobs, Miano says a worker who changes employers is unlikely to get permanent residency.


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