Is anyone else ambivalent about McKinney?

[Cocoa]

I find myself really torn reading all the McKinney threads. It's been very frustrating not being able to decide which side to come down on.

But I just realized something that helps a little: I don't know what happened.

[Avalux]

1. It's not worth the consternation.

I have chosen to ignore the incident and the controversy surrounding it. The less attention it gets the better, IMHO.

[jmaier]

4. I agree.

Rep McKinney is choosing her own path and more power to her but it is an unfortunate diversion of news(print)(bandwidth) from the messages that could actually be useful to the Democratic cause.

As a partisan, I wish she had just showed her ID and moved on.

[BurtWorm]

8. Same here.

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[movonne]

16. You are right, ignore this incident..it has been put out there to get

attention...It would not of happened if it was a repug..in fact that policeman would not have a job.

[MadMaddie]

2. You are right...we don't know what happened...

I do find it interesting that the facts have not come out about this incident...

I find it interesting that the Repuglicans have encouraged the racist bent on the event....

[Cocoa]

5. the facts will come out in the court case

and I find it more predictable than interesting that the right wing is being racist.

[gatorboy]

3. Who? n/t

[slackmaster]

6. Is it necessary for each and every one of us to take a "side"?

I don't have a dog in the fight, other than my distaste for her anti-Semitic tendencies and her association with the racist group Nation of Islam.

The incident and its fallout are pure entertainment to me. If she prevails, more power to her. If she falls, she had it coming.

[The Stranger]

7. Torn? Fuck no. Every Progressive should back McKinney.

Apparently, the media psyops is effecting even DUers.

[jmaier]

11. That strategy seems as misguided

as a call on Red State for every conservative to support Tom Delay. Some acts are wrong, regardless of your agreement with the convictions of the actor. Actions have consequences and nothing that is happening with Rep McKinney is taking place without her partcipation.

[The Stranger]

27. One would have to be EXTREMELY NAIVE to think this is about a shove.

McKinney says things that many powerful people do not want her to say. This is an attempt to silence her. Backing her and her courage to say these things has very little to do with pedantic lessons about "actions and consequences." Please.

[jmaier]

28. Perhaps

But if Rep McKinney wants to be a credible, strong and persistent progressive voice then participating is sideshows such as this seem to be counterproductive.

[Cocoa]

12. nah

that seems to be a message, but it's not true, imo.

[robinlynne]

9. have a look at this video.

It is older, not from last week. but it is pretty clear. A black policeman congratulates her. A white pliceman says "who are you with?" as she tries to walk into congress. When he realizes she is a congresswoman he apologizes profusely. As he should. Now imagine someone grabbing her arm, trying to stop her from going in to congress...


http://www.house.gov/mckinney/ABvideo2.mov

[Cocoa]

19. thanks for that video

it is a great video, I just watched it four times. It is most definitely relevant to this incident, and we can expect it will be used in the legal case.

[TreasonousBastard]

10. Nobody does, but...

that doesn't stop them from yakking about it.

Good gossip fodder and DC dramatics, but doesn't seem to have much substance.

[northzax]

13. she does seem to attract a lot of attention, doesn't she?

and who, exactly, footed the bill for Isaac Hayes to go open her Atlanta office?

in my opinion, McKinney is just as much of a wingnut as the DeLay crowd, I just happen to share some, not all by any means, of her opinions. None of that excuses her sometimes erratic behavior, to me.

Yes, I expect legislators to dress and act professionally on The Job. And she doesn't always do that.

[philosophie_en_rose]

17. yeah. so sad she doesn't know her place.

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[northzax]

23. yes, seeing as her place is as a representative of her district

and the United States of America as a whole. Shame she doesn't act like it.

She is one of 537 people (435 congreessfolk, 100 senators, President and VP) who represent the 300,000,000 people of the United States. Yes, I expect certain behavior from them, on the job. I expect them to act professionally, to dress professionally, and be decent representatives of the US as a whole. I don't care if you are Rep. McKinney or Rep. Ryun, there are standards of behaviour that are expected, and they all would be wise to follow them.

Tell me, do you dress professionally in your job? do you act professionally around your boss? are you nice to people who are just trying to do their jobs, the best way they know how? What would happen if you didn't?

[Cocoa]

22. dress professionally?

you have to admit, that's kind of an odd thing to care about.

Do you have a problem with Ted Stevens's "Hulk" ties?

[northzax]

24. it's not an odd thing at all

do you dress appropriately for your job? Is it really too much to ask our representatives, pulling down $120 grand, to dress appropriately when they're working? to not act erratically? I'm not asking them to be fashion plates, but really, how many $120,000/year jobs do you know that don't have expected standards of behaviour and appearance?

[Cocoa]

25. how does McKinney dress?

I never noticed.

And what about Stevens's ties?

[northzax]

26. the only part of the dress code

is a little lapel pin. that's it.

At least Stevens is wearing a tie.

[Sammy Pepys]

14. Me.

I admittedly don't care for her very much, but don't hold any real grudges.

[Syncronaut Seven]

15. How could you be ambivalent about this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2207167

A GOP sponsored congressional resolution to commend Capitol Police? you've got to be fucking kidding me!

[Cocoa]

20. I'm not ambivalent about that trash resolution

how can they commend those police? They don't know wtf happened either! :mad:

[bryant69]

18. Totally

I am totally pissed off at the hypocritical Republicans. Cheney shot a guy in the face, and the most he had to put up with from most of us is a little teasing. McKinney hit a cop - and they are going to tar and feather her.

On the other hand, this is total bullshit that we have to put up with defending her. There are real problems out there that we should be focused on - instead, thanks to a little hot-headedness we have to deal with this.

Yeah I'm totally ambivalent.

Bryant
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[IndyOp]

21. Recognizing and stopping each smear campaign

...recognizing and stopping each attempt to distract and divide us - whether based on race, religion, or whatever -- makes us stronger.

WE MUST continue to practice how to recognize and counter-act the GOP smear machine.

The only reason the 'McKinney' incident has gone on so long isn't McKinney -- it is us (Dems) not immediately coming to her defense. Whether or not you like her 'style' she is working really, really hard for US.

In public, we should immediately defend every Dem, then behind closed doors find out what happened and, if necessary, confront them.

How many times do they have to lie to us before our kneejerk reaction to everything they say is LIE! LIE! LIE! LIE! LIE! LIE! LIE! LIE!

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