Bill Maher and "7 minutes".

[1956]

On last weekend's "Real Time", Bill Maher went over the astonishing 7 minute delay on 9/11 between Andy Card's whisperings, and Bush actually getting up to do his duty as prez. The general idea was that Bush was stupid, or frozen in some way.

I disagree. I think Bush knew exactly what he was doing.His look of shock was an acting job. Since it is strongly believed by many that it was a LIHOP or MIHOP, Bush wasn't being dumb, he was deliberately waiting for the damage to be done, or for some of the bad guys or inside help to get away, etc. The man is stupid in many ways, but when it comes to destruction and evil, he is very focused.

[Duer 157099]

1. That's the thing about the "7 minutes"

There's no good interpretation (for him, that is)

No way to spin it

[Duer 157099]

2. Besides, it's the Secret Service's job

to remove the President from harm, not to wait for him to ask

That suggests that this was very complex

[driver8]

15. I find it very, very strange that the Secret Service did not remove

him from the classroom. The country is being attacked by terrorists and the Secret Service doesn't make a move to get the President to safety?

Hmmm...something is very fishy in Shrubville.

[Rick Myers]

32. Exactly

The Secret Service would not wait around to be asked. They would act! Here's a bit of trivia, from the book "DICK, The Man That IS President." Early in 2001, some kook shot at the White House. The SS dashed into Cheney's office where he was busy with phones and paperwork. ONly when Dick was secured, did they look for Dubya, and found him riding a stationary bike in the White House gym. DICK is calling the shots (no pun intended!).

[tblue37]

60. But they DID move the president to safety,

immediately. According to reports, the Secret Service agents hurried in to Cheney's office and literally lifted him by his armpits and rushed him to safety.

[dchill]

83. Oh my gawd...

you're right. I never even thought of it that way, but Bush = Jerry Mahoney*. He's just a wooden decoy for the real Head Cheese, Dead-Eye Dick.
:freak:

*possibly Knucklehead Smiff http://www.paulwinchell.com/

[Chiyo-chichi]

62. Nor did they even think to order fighter cover for Air Force One

until very, very late.

What was up with that?

[dchill]

84. Whoever was really in charge...

never intended to cover Air Force One. Ever hear the quote, "Angel is next." ?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/11/60II/main521718.shtml

Apparently AF1 was a target on 9/11, and someone in the upper echelons of our "government" knew that, as is evidenced by the anonymous caller's use of the code name.

[Lisa]

104. plus, Bush claimed that he didn't want to scare the kids ...

Yet he hung around the school and made an announcement about the attacks, with the children as a backdrop!

One would think it would have occurred to him that if he were a major target, they would have been in danger as long as he was there ... not to mention, some of them probably had nightmares after listening to grownups blurting out things about planes crashing into buildings.

[LSparkle]

3. My caption to his reaction: "Holy shit, they really DID do it"

His face had the look of one who might have expected something but was nonetheless taken aback when it actually materialized. I can't help but think he knew what might be coming, but (as usual) he and his gang hadn't bothered to come up with a plan of action so he was a deer in the headlights ...

[BadgerKid]

30. Bad timing by the camera?

The press was supposed to catch W doing good PR work reading to children. What if simply that the cameras just weren't supposed to be around when the job went down? But somehow W's expression hadn't struck me as one of anger.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

34. Confused, scared and stunned.

And then sat there for 7 more minutes. Great leadership is made of such things.

You KNOW that Clinton would have said "I'm sorry, kids, but I have to step outside for a moment."

First thing he'd ask - where's the nuclear football? After all, who knows who's attacking us?

Then he'd go from there.

[DoYouEverWonder]

89. Because the attack was supposed to be over by 9:00 AM

If all of the planes had left on time, before 8:01 AM, then the attack would have been over by 9:00 AM and Bush would have never gotten stuck sitting in a 2nd grade classroom with glue on his butt.

Instead, Flight 93 got stuck on the ground for 45 minutes and Bush, Cheney, Rummie, Myers, Rice, Tenet... all got stuck playing dumb until the Pentagon got hit and the attack was over.

[kitkat65]

91. Don't remember the exact moment when I had the gut feeling

of OHMIGOD that son-of-a-bitch had something to do with this! It was very fleeting but maybe it was when I saw his face in the classroom. After that, I bought the official story line until I saw Farenheit 9-11 and remembered it.

But wasn't it a lot longer than seven minutes? I thought it was more like 20+.

[dchill]

92. Or it was something like this:

"I wondered why they sent me to this crummy little school in Florida this morning."
;)

[Duer 157099]

4. Those 7 minutes are the biggest reason

that I'm lihop/mihop

That was my biggest solid clue

[dchill]

16. Absolutely right.

He just sat there because he already knew. Andy Card was just confirming that the deed was done. WHY did the Secret Service just let him sit there? There is absolutely NO explanation for that. They haven't even tried.

LIHOP IS MIHOP

[Booster]

59. What has always made me wonder is the fact that Andy Card

said "America is under attack" and just turned and walked away. Wouldn't you think he would look Bush in the eye for some kind of reaction? Like "what do you want to do now"? Smells, I tell ya.

[dchill]

73. I never even STARTED to believe....

that Card said anything of the kind. I think he said something like, "Jeb says heads up - it's on, so just sit tight and don't say anything."

[Booster]

90. I totally agree. If he had said anything re: being attacked, no one

in the world would have just sat there and not said "WHAT"? That whole scenario was just bizarre, and no one in the world is that incurious not to have wanted even a scintilla of more information.

[dchill]

5. "7 minutes"

He was just "killing time."

[Warpy]

6. I don't think he looked shocked at all

I think he looked slightly irritated that they'd interrupt him for THAT.

I don't think I'm the only one who interpreted that look this way, either. I watched the tape multiple times frame by frame and I never saw shock, never saw surprise, never saw anxiety, or anything but a man who was slightly miffed at missing a few seconds of a photo opportunity.

Either he knew exactly what was happening and it was all going according to plan, or he is the dumbest human being on the face of the planet and had to wait for some aide to tell him what to do.

[1956]

10. Yeppir

Even if he was that dumb, you'd think that he would've suddenly tried to disappear away from the cameras, to get someplace where he could at least pretend to be prez-idential!

[SeattleGirl]

19. "Annoyed" was what I thought when I saw that segment in F9/11

MrSG said the first thing he thought was that Chimpy was sitting there thinking, "Hmmm, how long should I wait this out? Need to let some irreversible damage happen, but I also need to 'act Presidential' at some point too."

After seeing the segment several more times, it seems to be kind of a combination of both -- he knew and was annoyed that Andy Card brought it up, and he was thinking about how long he should sit there before getting up.

Whatever the truth of it is, as far as I'm concerned, it was THE worst display of irresponsibility I've ever seen.

[adriennui]

65. i think he's the dumbest man on the face of the planet

he knew things MIGHT be happening but was too lazy or didn't give a damn. it is more like LIHOP, he's been in bed (both literally and figuratively) with the saudis for decades.

the saudis planned it and their bitch played dumb.

[annabanana]

7. "Do they know that I did it?"

"Are they coming for me? I'd better fly off to Nebraska, no one there will EVER suspect...."

[1956]

13. Good one!

[seemslikeadream]

8. A family business - 9/11 Funeral Ceremony

greater detail here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x80249#80291

[driver8]

20. That is a creepy picture!

Babs is so proud that her worthless son has finally amounted to something and that the Bush crime family is going to score big! Papa Bush pats his son as if to say, "I knew you weren't a fuck up...I knew you had it in you." Then there is shrubby sitting there as if to say, "What the hell did I do? I don't know nuthin'."

[shanti]

29. babs, chimp, and poppy

all have those tight lipless smiles :(

[Rufus T. Firefly]

37. Why are Herbert Herbert and Babs smiling?

[EC]

103. Looks like he is congratulating the kid for doing

a good job with their "Pearl Harbor" like event....

[xxqqqzme]

108. wow - poppy & babs are grinning

not one other person looks pleased. First time I've seen that picture.

[bpilgrim]

9. His NON-REACTION is the 'TELL'

no one can say for sure how they would have reacted in his shoes... but we all know that we REACTED and would have, even in his shoes.

it is UNNATURAL TO NOT REACT to "AMERICA IS UNDER ATTACK".

peace

[TNOE]

12. To the 9/11 Basement.....

10, 9, 8, 7, 6,

[bpilgrim]

67. not yet

we have hit the mainstream :bounce:

peace

[1956]

21. Exactly

that's why he had to have known and /or facilitated. Remember he really, really wanted to go to war!!!

[Bridget Burke]

96. Everyone I know was shocked as Hell on 9/11

We all REACTED!

Even though it was not "our job" to care.

[glitch]

11. 7 minutes understates. After the class he milled around for another 15 min

He dawdled for over 20 minutes.

[PinkyisBlue]

80. He wanted to finish the book he was reading.

Darn, now he'll never know what happened at the end of "My Pet Goat". Why couldn't the attacks have waited until he was finished reading his book?

[bj2110]

14. Maher made such a good point re: the democrats & the 7 minutes:

How is it that a political party can't win an election after the nation is exposed to video of the president sitting motionless in a grade school after being informed our nation was under attack? For 7 minutes?!? If used correctly, this alone should have won the lection for the Dems.

He is an incapable leader who freezes (or acts, whatever) and does nothing, not even get up to find out more about how the attack is occuring for 7 full minutes. And the Dems couldn't get him out of office. Amazing.

[1956]

18. Yes,

although I love Bill, he seems to dismiss the idea of election fraud. Forgets how that plays a big part!

[bj2110]

57. True. But, that alone could have been used for a 20 point swing. Easy

I contend that it's impossible to steal an election if the true opinion is more than 60-40.

[tblue37]

61. You mean like in Ohio,

where the ballot initiative numbers were flipped, so that the pre-election 40%-60% polls were reversed to a 60%-40% vote?

[bj2110]

63. But those bland yes/no votes don't really mean anything: They're just fake

[TankLV]

85. Oh - but the Dems were WARNED not to "make it political" out of it.

Of course, simultaneously, the REPUKES were wallowing in using this CRIME for THEIR OWN base political purposes.

Add a few doses of ANTHRAX strategically placed for insurance, not to mention all the unpublished THREATS that many of the Democrats received for them and their families that we may never know.

The media and repukes (same thing) REPEATEDLY told us how "unseemly" and how the public backlash would commence if we even SUGGESTED any HINT of criticism of this WAR Criminal!

I remember it all WELL.

They STILL haven't had an IMPARTIAL investigation - under oath - to ASSIGN BLAME!

That was the one thing that THEY said WE couldn't do!

[info being]

100. and of course media bias

[kitkat65]

93. They Dems should have run a seven minute long commerical.

Would have been well worth the money.

[bj2110]

97. You know the Repubs would have done it. nt

[cureautismnow]

107. Bingo!

I'll never understand why the dem.'s didn't use this blatant example of "non-leadership," indecisiveness, and incompetence to disprove the GOP's and msm's assertion/perception that Junior was a strong, decisive leader. Commercials detailing Bush-boy's failure to capture OBL or the anthrax killer would have been effective, too. It's just mind-boggling that the dem.'s didn't exploit Shrub's endless weaknesses. :crazy:

[gratuitous]

17. Michael Moore! Michael Moore! Awk, awk, awk!

Whew, that was close.

[DemInDistress]

22. King George the Imbecile said he saw the crash yet decided

to sit with kids and read his, "pet goat." Clearly after the summer of threat, the system was blinking red he should have been glued to the tv or better still, "ACT LIKE THE FUCKING PRESIDENT" and TAKE ACTION. But no,
King George along with the Crime Family had other ideas. "WAR IN IRAQ" and/or "WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST."
America is addicted to oil. (lol)

[blindpig]

23. Alternate interpretation:

Perhaps he was pretty much out of the loop. He knew something was going to happen, that he was going to get his Pearl Harbor. But the Big Kids(Cheney, Rummy, etc) were handling it, no need to bother him with details. Perhaps he was shocked by the devastation wrought in his name, if only temporarily. Which exonerates him of nothing.

Will we ever know for sure?

[1956]

26. Yeah sometimes

I think maybe he wasn't really in charge of the show, too. Sometimes, I give him that...but then I say,,, NAAAAA!

[seabeyond]

24. you know it was more than 7 minutes. like 23 mins. tired of people

saying 7 minutes and it was much more than that. all cause mm put 7 minutes of listening to a story in f9/11. he took pictures and chatted afterward

[SpiralHawk]

27. gigadittoes on the 23-30 minutes

I think this Massive Bush Gap on 9/11 is documented by Paul Thompson at Cooperative Research.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

71. He went ahead with the photo op

About 20 minutes after he'd finished the goat book he appeared for the first time on live television, standing in front of a carefully selected (i.e., photogenic) group of kids. This was when he gave his speech about "returning immediately to Washington" (ha!) and going after the "folks" who did this.

I've always had two questions: (1) If someone told you "America is under attack" wouldn't you ask them what was happening, give instructions or get up and take charge, and (2) where was the Secret Service while all this was going on.

I think this is why the Bushies fought any investigation of the events that occurred on 9-11, and when they finally gave in would only permit the underfunded committee to look at intelligence failures that occurred prior to 9-11. When Columbia broke up during descent, NASA immediately convened a commission to look into all aspects of the accident. It astounds me that other than the timeline provided by UnansweredQuestions, there is no chronicle of the events of 9-11.

[SpiralHawk]

25. Freepers routinely refuse to watch the 9/11 tape

They already know that it shows Bush acting cowardly, indecisive and incompetent.

And they care no bear allowing this truth to penetrate the IMAGE of him they have created.

They can't handle the truth.

Anyone who watches the tape knows the truth.

[mdmc]

31. i don't think that we are allowed to talk about this

[stanwyck]

64. No one who watches the entire 7 minutes would vote

for George W. Bush. That is an impossibility. Those who refuse to watch their president in action on 9-11 are cowards. Total cowards.
There is no rational explanation. And I've heard them all. "He didn't want to upset the children." Preposterous. Any elementary teacher could have handled that easily. "Kids, I'm going to step out in the hall a minute on some President business." The kids would be fine. Just fine.
"The staff was handling everything for him"....Really? How did he know? Didn't he have ANY input at all...none? Didn't he have any "manly, cowboy, macho" CEO President directives? At the most critical time in America's recent history? Nothing? From the "MBA President"?
No Freeper has an explanation. None.
They won't watch. They're yellow-bellied cowards.

[unblock]

28. it's completely inexplicable.

an administration that's so image-conscious would jump at the chance to show the president as a man of action, running out of a photo-op to save the country. just think what a great commercial they passed up. instead all they have is a studio-quality photo of him on the phone looking out an airplane window on a day they claim is 9/11. whatever.

if they were trying to look like they were caught off guard, they picked a stupid way of doing that. leaders caught off guard don't go into paralysis. they may not do the right thing, but they do SOMEthing.


just about the only explanation is that they are so programmed that they can't react. he had to finish his photo op because that was the schedule for the day, and he apparently either lacked the authority to change his own schedule or deemed staying on schedule to be more important than saving the country from attack.

it ALSO provides heavy evidence for those who suggest that he knew there was nothing to be done. either lihop or mihop, or perhaps simply that he knew the dimensions of the threat and thought it wouldn't happen, but that if it did there was nothing they could do to stop it once the first plane hit.

or, finally, that shrub simply had delegated national security to others and couldn't be bothered to even keep up appearances.

[symbolman]

110. I'll tell you what scared me the most

after Bush had flown all over pissing his pants behind the toilet on AF One and they stopped at a Base in the South they had him come out and make some sort of statement (unlike his wonderful ramblings about "getting FOLKS" in front of school children, all targets at that moment in a school gym, WHY BE IN FRONT OF SCHOOLKIDS? Crazed) -- they trotted him out and the video feed was AWFUL, like video TAPE, betamax, skipping and bad sound, with Bush looking so goddam scared that for a few moments I actually thought that SOMEONE had CAPTURED a "President" and that he was being forced to make some sort of statement, like McCain when he was a POW..

It was that BAD, so poorly done, that it was scary.. later I realised that he was just a fucking COWARD and didn't know what to say, other than UNCLE to the terrorists or "MOMMY, SAVE ME!"..

Thanks for linking my now well known flash OMM.. when we first posted that at Takebackthemedia.com SO MANY PEOPLE were hitting it, and in those days bandwidth was SO EXPENSIVE that we literally could NOT afford to keep it up online - we begged whatreallyhappened.com to host it for us to keep it online.. so many people worldwide were watching it that it was costing us 40 bucks an hour to host it ourselves, money we didn't have..

But this flash was the beginning of TBTM's eventual pulling in of 100 million hits in our first year!

I wish I had the time and money to sit around and create more of these hard core works, I've made so many for so long for free that I just can't afford it anymore.. all my wife says now, since we blew a lot of our mortgage money making flash movies is, "So how will that make us money?"

Then we argue, because I still want to bring these monsters down, get them out of office, expose them, turn over rocks and watch them scatter.. I've got tons of ideas for flash works, where's SOROS when you need him, eh?

In the meantime I sort of expanded with my "Rove's War", which is sort of like my flash style only with film and clips and graphics telling the complete chronology of the Plame Outing, still as a fundraiser at our site, getting good reviews..

Spent a lot of time (about a year) making a film on Electronic Voting, but that got messy between the parties so it's being sorted out, but at some point we will make what I consider a KILLER work on Electronic Voting and Fraud.

Stay tuned, we aren't out of the game yet, just need some funding, can't fight them with spit and sticks anymore :)

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

33. Before there was Fahrenheit 9/11, there was our very own Symbolman's

Video at Take Back The Media... An American Requium

Here is the link

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/true911.html

[SheepyMcSheepster]

39. Thanks for posting this, it's a good refresher. eom

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

41. Your welcome! :) eom

[bpilgrim]

42. and Before there was that -- There was Shadow Government TV ;-)

http://www.shadowgov.info

peace

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

45. Thanks for the link bpilgrim! I didn't even know that site existed. :)

Peace :)

[bpilgrim]

49. no worries

:hi: OmmmSweetOmmm

peace

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

52. I just finished watching it. I've seen this trailer and forgot all about

it. Bookmarked! :) Peace! :hi:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

48. And then there is the full video of *s visit to Booker Elementary School.

One wonders why he is schmoozing around outside before getting into the limo to AFO, and once on AFO he leaves Florida without a jet escort.

Full Booker Elementary School Video
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/bushbook.mov

* leaving Sarasota without an escort. He was up in the air for about 45minutes to 1 hour without one.

http://www.attackonamerica.net/airforceoneleavingsarasota.ra

[bpilgrim]

50. thanks for sharing!

:toast:

peace

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

51. Your welcome and

peace! :hi: :toast:

[bpilgrim]

56. here are a couple more oldie-but-goodies

http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs/911/sgtv

peace

[Viva_La_Revolution]

82. Thanks. CNN was wrong about the Prez being the one to order

plane shot down.

From "Inside Job" pg. 31

Summarized - Prior to June 2001, Civil air commanders had authorization to shoot down planes that threatened "lives, to prevent human suffering, or mitigate great property damage under imminently serious conditions." and get retro authorization from the Sec. of Defense after. June 1, 2001 the rules were changed, only Secretary of Defense can give approval, at that time... Rumsfeld.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

87. That's true Viva. Thank you! :)

PS... he was probably "waiting" to hear from Cheney who was busy "running" the war games that morning........

[cyanide]

35. Nope

His brain was working, it just was working at his speed ----------- slow, very slow.

It is an amazement to me that he was not just president, but president twice.

[JohnLocke]

36. Kick (nt)

[Nashyra]

40. He already knew about first

Why does the press or the media or even those here on DU do not ask the question WHY WAS HE EVEN AT THE SCHOOL. He was told of the first aircraft hitting the tower before he got to the school. 20 min before the first plane crashed they already knew it was a hijacking. Look up any of the timelines, he was told before he got to the school. Why would the secret service even allow him to go to the school. One timeline has him being told just before he left hotel, wouldn't it make sense to perhaps be late to a school and find out what actually happen, it was on TV, I'm sure they could have looked at it, there is no way they did not know what was going on. That is the real smoking gun in my opinion. Why did he not act presidential after the first one hit, might not have saved the 2nd aircraft but 3rd and 4th aircraft could have been detered.

[Lostnote06]

75. Didn't a female Presidential Navy attache tell someone about this....

.....I believe it was an AP journalists discussion with her.....You are absolutely right.....why did the bastard jump into the car anyhow?

[MissWaverly]

38. I am convinced that he knew he would not be threatened

Here we have 3000+ people killed, I must admit being in Baltimore, I waw pretty stressed,
being hit in NYC, DC and they were reporting a plane in Pa, I thought there might be
an armed invastion, who knew? I believe that by sitting there w/o taking any action,
he knew he was safe. Heck, people evacuate for a fire drill.

[bpilgrim]

43. and the SS must have known, too

MIHOP

peace

[MissWaverly]

47. I remember the Squeaky Fromme incident 9/5/75

I will explain to anyone who is not an "oldtimer" that was an attempt to kill President
Ford by Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme, it seemed like the Secret Service rolled in to
protect Ford like a well oiled machine. Why was there no attempt to immediately
protect the president and take him off to a secure location on 9-11 at the elementary school. I really don't remember President Ford, giving orders, like "Hey Fellas, over here, this lady is trying to kill me."

[Jigarotta]

81. he was at a school in Sarasota, Florida, correct?

I remember hearing that there is an airport not that far from that location and that his travel schedule was public knowledge so if Bush thought there was a threat to him, he would have hi tailed it out of there and fast.

That's what sewed it up for me - the illogicalness of it all. He damn well Knew.

[MissWaverly]

109. Certainly and evacuated the children

thinking that they may have targeted the school!

[B Calm]

44. He was told we were under attack and the SOB sat there for 7 min.

Some fucking leadership!

[fooj]

46. The treasonous, rat bastard is anything but stupid...

I wish people would stop saying that.

[savemefromdumbya]

53. It was Card who whispered in his ear!

Card has gone, bush next. 9/11 was a crime against their own people

[SpiralHawk]

54. The stink of 9/11 is all over BushCo republicons

to their eternal shame.

[JohnyCanuck]

55. Dr. Rober Bowman, former head of star wars says official story impossible.

Bowman thinks Cheney is the prime suspect for overseeing the planning for how to handle the 9/11 attacks. He thinks Shrub was probably aware some type of attacks were coming but not the true nature or extent of the attacks. He says, if true, this would still make Shrub guilty of murder and treason.

Dr. Robert M. Bowman Head of Advanced Space Programs for DOD and retired Lt. Col for United States Air Force, a combat pilot who flew 101 missions in the Vietnam War, now a peace-activist criticizing the Star-Wars-program, talks about the impossibility of the official government story and the subsequent widespread and systematic destruction of evidence and cover-up. He also asks us to look at who benefited from 9/11.

Video of Bowman speaking on 9/11 (approx 5 min)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG64t73Yo94

[bpilgrim]

58. great 5 min clip!

thank you for sharing :toast:

peace

[Pastiche423]

66. Is it my imagination

or din't Ari hold up a sign in the back of the room, saying something to the effect...

"Don't do anything?

On edit:

Who was really in control? Certainly not Bush. In the back of the room, Press Secretary Ari Fleischer caught Bush’s eye and held up a pad of paper for him to see, with “DON’T SAY ANYTHING YET” written on it in big block letters.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/essay.jsp?article=essayaninterestingday

[Notoverit]

68. Either responsible, or irresponsible.

Not a very good set of choices.

[wakemewhenitsover]

69. What do LIHOP and MIHOP mean?

[bpilgrim]

74. they where actually coined right here on DU by a poster called ewing2001

they mean...

Let It Happen On Purpose
Made It Happen On Purpose

nico haupt is his real name :hi:

peace

[wakemewhenitsover]

76. Thanks. Your avatar's wild. What is that?

[bpilgrim]

77. it's the secret 'HELP' signal for a Team America op... here is a color ver

http://news.globalfreepress.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-3650

peace

[wakemewhenitsover]

86. That's great. How does Copper Mine work? Just stores images?

[wakemewhenitsover]

70. Who agrees that the very fact that he was at a photo-op is suspicious?

[Kenergy]

72. I think he was going over the instructions he was given

by KKKarl:
1) Remain calm
2) Get on Air Force One
3) Fly around for 8 hours and rehearse press release
4) Let KKKarl reassure you how this is the right thing to do while hitting that
bottle of Jack Daniels

It's obvious he knew the attack was going down in advance.

[gulliver]

78. If Bush had been behind 9/11, it would not have worked. n/t

[Hailtothechimp]

79. Walking into the classroom in the first place is suspicious.

There are indications that Bush said he SAW the first plane hit the towers. No one has ever pressed him on this, because it's a damming admission if true.

Consider that there was already a terrorist attack on the WTC in 1993. ANYTHING suspicious at that site had to be a sign that something was going on. Add that prior event to the August 6 PDB which came to light (BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE IN THE US) and it makes zero sense for Bush to have ever walked into the room to begin with.

If you watch the video of Andy Card telling Bush whatever it was he said, there are two things that seem odd to me:

1. Whatever he said took not more than 2 seconds to get out. He physically could not have said anything along the lines of "America is being attacked" in such a short time. Not without possibly being misunderstood, anyway. So Card, in 2 seconds tops, gets the message across and then backs away. The conclusion I draw from that is that there was a code used. Which is evidence of MIHOP.

2. WHen Card stepped up to Bush, all of the photographers in the room seemed to come to life. Did they know something was going on? And I've only ever seen one of the pictures that were snapped at that time. Were the others gathered up or confiscated? It just seems too strange.

One day we will know the truth. But we don't now.

[symbolman]

88. Here's the flash film I created exactly one year after 911

and offered it to the Democrats..

http://www.tbtmradio.com/geeklog/public_html/staticpages/index.php?page=20040606205339801

I wrote to Michael Moore before making this flash and told him about the Booker Elementary School footage, that someone had MORE than the minutes we were shown, even wrote to Hustler and asked for an email to be forwarded to Larry Flynt saying that SOMEONE in that room full of cameras had the WHOLE unedited footage of Bush for 20 or more minutes and that he should offer a million bucks for it and show it on Prime TIme UNEDITED for all of america to see..

7 minutes my ass, if you check into it, it was at least a half an hour, WITH a speech while all those kids were TARGETS at a KNOWN and PUBLISHED pResidential visit.

Remember, Bush KNEW about the first building going down BEFORE he walked into that school, why wasn't that visit immediately cancelled?

Maher was right, a REAL MAN would have said to the kids, "Sorry kids, something's come up, I have a job to do that only the President can do, I'll be back soon, in the meantime, ICE CREAM for everyone for Lunch today.."

As an Air FOrce veteran with a top secret clearance who used to deliver TS messages to Scramble Units, and who also knew ALL the bases and where aircraft is kept I KNEW damn well that there had to be a STAND DOWN ORDER, other wise there'd have been planes in the air in less than 5 minutes, tops.

Any single fighter could have forced those airliners out to sea or over unpopulated land with the wash from their jet engines, just like a VW Van behind a tractor trailer, and then shot them down or FORCED them down.

It's a plot, no doubt about it, there really is no other explanation. Do you think the Bush family would give a shit over 3000 people when they could make TRLLIONS from it?

Didn't stop them from selling Steel to the Nazis and actually FUND some of the death camps.

Watch the flash, pass it around, takes a bit to load but everyone I know loved it that's seen it, millions have.

[SheepyMcSheepster]

94. someone posted a link to your movie earlier in the thread

I had initially watched it when it was first put out, but I didn't recall the "more than 7 minutes" details that were presented. I watched it again last night and it still hit me pretty damn hard and refreshed my mind on the time line of that day. Anway, I am just kind of babbling here, but you did a good job on that flash movie and it still leaves me feeling punched in the gut when faced with the reality of that day.

[VOX]

99. Thanks, symbolman -- ***Very*** important! n/t

[warrens]

95. I disagree

After watching it several times, I think what was going on in his so-called mind was "OH FUCK, they TOLD us this might happen and we laughed it off. What lies can I come up with to cover this up? I hope Karl has some good ideas."

[dchill]

98. So, only after watching it several times...

were you able to convince yourself of this scenario. How does that explain the lack of response on the part of the Secret Service contingent? How does that explain the whole entourage hanging around the school for another 20+ minutes? I personally think it took seven minutes for him to figure out why the real powers-that-be sent him to Florida that morning. Seriously.

[bullwinkle428]

101. So you're saying "President Logan" from "24" is a spot-on clone

of him? Acting like a completely clueless goober in public and around nearly everyone in his inner circle, but coordinating every nefarious activity in secret?

[Sapphire Blue]

102. ***** Seven Minutes ***** The Bush Split-screen 9/11 Video (2004) *****

Seven Minutes: http://www.archive.org/download/Seven_Minutes/Seven_Minutes-ss.rm (Real Media)

Seven Minutes: http://www.archive.org/download/Seven_Minutes/Seven_Minutes.wmv (Windows Media)

(Please be patient; they take a while to download)

[QuettaKid]

106. K& R. nt.

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[xxqqqzme]

105. the best thing about the '7 minutes'

was it shut whorbacher's mouth. I just loved the look on his face when
Maher asked him if he would be defending Clinton if it had happened on Clinton's watch. Shut that rethug's yap real fast - You could just see whorbacher's head swirling cuz he was trying 2 find an answer - Nothin' there dana!