"Please don't kill me. Please don't kill me."

[Cyrano]

Those words were spoken by George W. Bush as he mocked Karla Faye Tucker, one of the 157 death row inmates executed while he was governor of Texas.

So why is anyone surprised by Iraq, torture, wiretapping, character assassination, inappropriate words, gestures and actions coming from a total sociopath? Why would anyone be surprised if this lunatic decided to nuke Iran? Or Syria? Or North Korea? (New Orleans was another big hint of his disregard for humanity.)

The Karla Faye Tucker story wasn't a secret back in the year 2000. It was first reported by Tucker Carlson (of all people) before the election. The story got media coverage, but no one paid much attention.

The Pope, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson all asked the "born again" governor to spare the "born again" Karla Faye Tucker, but good ole' boy George whacked her anyway. And he then acted out his "Please don't kill me" mocking, whine for Tucker Carlson. Whatta' guy.

This is an incident that took place years ago, yet explains the mindlessness of the despicable piece of humanity currently in the White House. Anyone who heard this story, yet still voted for him, must be missing a gene, a conscience, or a brain.

[Trevelyan]

1. My Recommend didn't show up. This is too sad and the fact that the only

person that bush pardoned as governor of texas was a satanic child murderer. Look it up and what was bush doing in the Brownsville ghetto when the same satanic group committed horrific murder/torture.

[GeorgeGist]

2. FUBAR feels neither guilt nor sympathy...

Does that mean he has lost his soul?

[grace0418]

5. It means he's a sociopath.

I've suspected that since 1999.

[etherealtruth]

29. that's my vote

[JuniperLea]

You can't lose what you never had n/t

[mdmc]

3. sure hate that death penalty... wish the dems would oppose it

we might not have bush if gore had oppossed the death penalty... perhaps...

[goclark]

4. Ditto,ditto, ditto nt

[SofaKingLiberal]

6. Yes, he is a sociopath.

We all know. Republicans don't give a shit, because most of them are too.

[KyuzoGator]

25. Most of them are shit? nt

[PublicWrath]

7. I paid attention.......

I was one of those who sent telegrams to ask him to commute her sentence. I believe I said something to the effect that the American public would remember Karla's death if he ran for president. Shallow, heartless bastard.

[SeattleGirl]

8. I'm not surprised in the least.

This man has no capacity for compassion or empathy.

[Rocknrule]

9. Who would Jesus mock before executing?

[Cyrano]

10. George W. Bush? Let's face it. Even Jesus must have had a sense of humor.

[LaPera]

11. Bush is a killer a true psychopath, hiding behind & insisting he's a

Christian and he keeps insisting because it gets him millions of votes and donations and loyalty...but make no mistake he's a born liar & killer, born rich and his daddy has gotten him out of all kinds of trouble...He's a spoiled little man! A mouthpiece for the corporations who run this country.

Cheney who insist on torturing people also insist he's a Christian, the mean & evil Cheney knows, as does Karl Rove that pushing their Christianity means huge support fron Christians, who want to believe them....As these liars just laugh about it privately...drinking and shooting and partying with other women!!!

[Rocknrule]

16. Shouldn't be a surprise

There are people like Coulter who think McVeigh was a great man just because he was a Christian and a Republican

[DemInDistress]

12. An irony.. as governor bush signed the death orders for all except

Henry Lee Lucas.. why? If anyone needed a lethal shot it was that maddog Henry Lee.. Did Lucas do some private murders for poppy bush while he was CIA/VP? H'm

I would have allowed Karla to live out her days as Henry Lee did. Did Henry Lee know this guy --------->

[Sequoia]

13. What did he do?

Her crime was rather gruesome. But I sure felt bad for her.

[DemInDistress]

20. surely you jest? what did Henry Lee Lucas do?

Henry was by his own mouth the most prolific mass murderer in USA history. Where you been? here are a few stories..


Henry Lee LucasHenry Lee Lucas. America's most controversial murderer was born August 23, 1936, ... and I've had sex..... While they're alive." HENRY LEE LUCAS ...
www.carpenoctem.tv/killers/lucas.html - 24k - Cached - Similar pages


Crime Library: Henry Lee LucasHenry Lee Lucas is one of the worst serial killers ever.
www.crimelibrary.com/serial2/lucas/ - 72k - Cached - Similar pages


Henry Lee Lucas, prolific serial killer or prolific liar? the ...Serial killers Henry Lee Lucas and his lover/friend Ottis Toole drifted around the US, allegedly raping, killing, mutilating and cannibalizing as many as ...
www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/ notorious/henry_lee_lucas/2.html - 81k - Cached - Similar pages


Henry Lee Lucas by Bonnie BobitHenry Lee Lucas is frequently touted as the ultimate serial killer, because he ultimately claimed to have killed more than 600 people. This in-depth story, ...
crimemagazine.com/lucas.htm - 53k - Cached - Similar pages


Henry Lee Lucas: Portrait of a Serial KillerInformation on Lucas' life and crimes, his accomplice, and his confessions.
www.houseofhorrors.com/lucas.htm - 16k - Cached - Similar pages

[Sequoia]

22. You're right...where have I been?

Bush must've admired him is all I can think.

[moc]

48. Henry Lee Lucas claimed responsibility for the murder of my cousin.

It was later proven a lie.

:cry:

Her murderer has never been caught. Her body was found on September 11, 1980.

[BrklynLiberal]

14. The most disgustng aspect of it all is that IL Dunce' DID NOT WIN in 2000!

There should have been riots in the streets protesting from election day until President Gore was allowed into the White House!!

[Sirveri]

15. Wouldn't a true born again want to die?

Y'know, they're all waiting for the rapture right, so wouldn't a true born-again christian want to die so she can go live in her mansion in heaven? Maybe W thought he was doing her a favor or thought she was a evil satanic non-believer and was mocking her for those reasons? I dunno, I try and understand things as best I can, as far as I can tell this is a potentially new avenue of thought regarding the matter.

[TheBaldyMan]

18. with respect, that's a dumb thing to say

personally I abhor the death penalty and favour life imprisonment where life does mean life and they come out of prison to attend their own funeral.

But what you say is nothing but a cheap shot at a woman who was refused mercy by a governor notorious for the callous disregard he 'reviewed' cases. In other words he didn't even bother to read the case files.

Mocking someone, no matter how low they have fallen is far more demeaning to you than it is to her.

[Sirveri]

43. I wasn't intending to mock her so much as the fundies

You know, the types that hopes the rapture comes so that they can go live in their mansions in heaven. And if Bush was a dominionist, by his own twisted logic, he might have thought that he was doing her a favor by allowing the state to execute her. He'd then wipe his own hands clean and simply say, well I didn't personally kill her, I just didn't perform an act which could have prevented it, so I'm not a murdering scumbag. As for the death penalty itself, I'm fully with you, it makes absolutely no sense to execute anyone based on a myriad array of reasons which we both know and are aware of. So I won't bother preaching to you on that one. The real intent of my post was more of an attempt to think about the subject from the view point of someone who was desirous of the rapture and of 'meeting Jesus' so to speak. Perhaps it didn't translate appropriately, for which I apologise.

[Octafish]

17. Piece of shit Bush wouldn't shake hands with the sister ...

...of a man he condemned. She came in to plead for her brother's life, and the little turd of Crawford wasn't man enough to shake her hand. "Low" doesn't describe George Walker Bush.

[progressivejazz]

19. This incident changed at least one mind.

A "born again" friend of mine supported Bush wholeheartedly until she learned about the "please don't kill me" mocking. She instantly changed and by now is on our side.

She can't be the only one.

It tells you all you have to know about the man -- that he is a monster.

What a shame the corporate media never really ran with it.

[GreenPartyVoter]

21. Very true. He clearly didn't understand what Christ said about

the adultress when the crowds wanted to stone her. Bu$h would ahve cast the first stone, it would seem.

[niallmac]

23. Did I miss a link somewhere in this thread?

This is the first I have heard of this mocking. Is this on the record?

[Cyrano]

24. Check out Google. There are thousands of entries.

Try george bush karla faye tucker.

[niallmac]

28. I just checked it out.

Unbelievable...and we couldn't defeat this sadist?
The Dems need to hire some blood thirsty campaign
organizers and not PC specialists.
First time I ever heard of this.
Hail to the Psycho!

[IsIt1984Yet]

31. Look at post 26 for another shocking one.

Or... just go here:
http://www.ccadp.org/serialpresident.htm

[IsIt1984Yet]

27. It was during a Tucker Carlson interview. Right here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karla_Faye_Tucker

In 1999, during the 2000 Republican Presidential primary race, conservative commentator Tucker Carlson interviewed Bush for Talk Magazine (September 1999, p. 106). Excerpt from this interview is quoted below:

In the weeks before the execution, Bush says, a number of protesters came to Austin to demand clemency for Karla Faye Tucker. "Did you meet with any of them?" I ask. Bush whips around and stares at me. "No, I didn't meet with any of them," he snaps, as though I've just asked the dumbest, most offensive question ever posed. "I didn't meet with Larry King either when he came down for it. I watched his interview with Tucker, though. He asked her real difficult questions like, 'What would you say to Governor Bush?'" "What was her answer?" I wonder. "'Please,'" Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, "'don't kill me.'" I must look shocked — ridiculing the pleas of a condemned prisoner who has since been executed seems odd and cruel — because he immediately stops smirking.
Bush denied that he had intended to make light of the issue.

[IsIt1984Yet]

26. What a deep insight to the psyche (or psycho) that he indeed is.

There are so many of those Texecutions that are un-fucking-real. The case of Irineo Tristan Montoya is another mind-blower. And, Alberto Gonzolez was on the Bush train then, too...

http://www.slate.com/id/2102416/

<snip>

On June 16, 1997, Gonzales first showcased his proclivity for torturing international law when he sent a letter to the U.S. State Department in which he argued that, "Since the State of Texas is not a signatory to the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, we believe it is inappropriate to ask Texas to determine whether a breach … occurred in connection with the arrest and conviction" of a Mexican national. Or, put another way, he asserted that an international treaty just didn't apply to Texas.

The Mexican in question, Irineo Tristan Montoya, was a fisherman convicted of brutally stabbing and murdering John Kilheffer in Brownsville, Texas, in 1985. Tristan, who insisted he was innocent, was executed two days after Gonzales sent his memo to State, despite protests from the Mexican government. Mexico alleged that Texas had violated Tristan's rights under the Vienna Convention because it had failed to inform the Mexican consulate at the time of his arrest.

The Vienna Convention, ratified by the Senate in 1969, was designed to ensure that foreign nationals accused of a crime are given access to legal counsel by a representative from their home country. In the absence of a lawyer and without access to Mexican authorities, Tristan, who neither spoke nor understood English, signed a confession that he later said he believed to be an immigration document.



Who the fuck would put this maniac in charge?

[Joanne98]

30. He's a real sicko.

[file83]

32. Bush has no business being in the White House.

[misternormal]

33. George W. Bush is living proof...

... That conception can and did occur in the sewers from the accidental meeting of a used condom and a tampon...

Sorry if that was too graphic... But that is how low on the food chain I think he is.

[rman]

34. culture of life, compassionate conservatives

hypocrites

[IsIt1984Yet]

35. pig

[phusion]

36. wow...

That's the first I had heard of what Bush said...

There is no longer any doubt in my mind that he is absolutely mentally ill and needs to be removed from office.

[NMMNG]

37. Mocking a terrified person who is about to die

What a Christian thing to do. :sarcasm:

[baby_mouse]

38. Waht a strange thing for a politician to say.

Almost as if he had no fear of the backlash. I wonder what went wrong?

[Cyrano]

39. What went wrong was insufficient media coverage, and a stolen election.

And it's also evident from some of the posts here that there are people who have never heard of this episode in the life of George the sociopath. For that, I fully blame the media.

Had this story received full coverage at the time, he wouldn't be in a padded chair in the Oval Office. He'd be in a padded cell on Thorazine.



(This thread needs to be kicked as there are, I believe, many people, who have never heard about this. The people of this country need to fully understand that we have a man in the White House who, IMO, is mentally unbalanced.)

[lectrobyte]

40. Yeah all I can remember of the media in 2000 was beating Al Gore inventing

the internet into the ground.

[leftchick]

45. I agree and am shocked

I can't believe that more Democrats, hell all Democrats are not aware of this story. He is one sick fucking sociopath. No Doubt About It!

<snip>

In the weeks before the execution, Bush says, a number of protesters came to Austin to demand clemency for Karla Faye Tucker. "Did you meet with any of them?" I ask. Bush whips around and stares at me. "No, I didn't meet with any of them," he snaps, as though I've just asked the dumbest, most offensive question ever posed. "I didn't meet with Larry King either when he came down for it. I watched his interview with Tucker, though. He asked her real difficult questions like, 'What would you say to Governor Bush?'" "What was her answer?" I wonder. "'Please,'" Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, "'don't kill me.'" I must look shocked — ridiculing the pleas of a condemned prisoner who has since been executed seems odd and cruel — because he immediately stops smirking.
Bush denied that he had intended to make light of the issue.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karla_Faye_Tucker

The "pro-life" prez....



Karla Faye Tucker (1959-1998).

[aikoaiko]

41. Karla Faye -- now that was a good execution.

The only problem I have with the Death penalty is that innocent people get executed. Since she admitted to the brutal killing, I have no problems with her execution. And finding jesus doesn't really mean anything to me.

Not that I support Bush, but Faye deserved to die.

[Texasgal]

42. Thank you!

She BRUTALLY murdered 2 people with a pick AX! And then LAUGHED about it!

AS far as dumb shit mocking her, it was extremely tasteless and even the pro-death people called him on it... I remember all that brouhaha when that happened. Sadly the story went away like all the others...

[leftchick]

46. so if a few innocents get killed along the way

it is okay because people like Tucker deserved it? Unbelievable!

[Rocknrule]

44. Sounds like what the Romans probably did to Jesus before his execution

Modern Pharasees

[MrSlayer]

47. I thought it was unbecoming of an elected official to mock her.

But she certainly deserved what she got. This is the least of his offenses in my opinion but yes, he certainly seems to be in love with killing people as long as it isn't by his own hand. He could have went nuts over in Nam but decided to wimp out.

[Cyrano]

49. My point was not, "... the least of his offenses..." I'm saying the man is

ethically and morally challenged, ignorant to the point where Yale should shut down their university in shame, a man totally devoid of sympathy, empathy, or even self-awareness, and person who, at the very least, should submit to a psychiatric examination.

[MrSlayer]

50. I agree with your assessment.

I just meant that of all the things this asshole has done, I find the Tucker mocking to be way down on the list of things that he should be taken to task for.

[stanwyck]

51. OK. I've been through this before here at DU

I saw the video clip of Bush mocking Tucker. Some DUers have claimed that it was only discussed by Carlson. I saw it on television. Wish I could tell you more specifics. But there IS video - somewhere. And the reason I know I didn't just think I saw it after reading about it is that I discussed the video with a fundie co-worker. She saw the same clip. And, amazingly, she was disgusted. Still voted for Bush, of course. But felt he was "wrong" to mock Tucker the way he did.
I guess by now, his forces have made sure no more Americans will ever see his little theatrics.
But I can tell you, it was Bush as his most smirky, fratboy psycho giggling worst.
Not at all the masterful, dignified Christian cowboy his handlers have sold the right.
No. This was the real Bush. And he's ugly.