Is this Carlos/ jiacinto-- LOL

[trumad]

It sure sounds like him.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/4/4/213832/5298

[AX10]

1. It's him alright. Before I joined, I remember him trolling around here.

...and shame on KOS for allowing that right wing troll to post there.

[trumad]

6. Ahhh Carlos---

He was the first dude that I had encountered on the internet who created a virtual lynch mob that wanted to go after him-- and rightfully so. . ROTF

[CatWoman]

16. ah.........

the good ole days :rofl:

[kentuck]

41. Some of the moderates would have loved Carlos....

I think we all had a round with him at one time or another. He really got on my nerves. :)

I recall how he liked to spout Repub bullshit about working hard and becoming wealthy and that cutting taxes were good for the economy and how Reagan had the right idea and how he worked for minimum wage but someday he was was going to be rich like a Republican too and that we were all "left-wing radicals" if you didn't believe with his "moderate" approach...etc..etc...

[sweetheart]

2. ha ha ! the dead walk!

Good to see carlos jaw jawin.

[Fenris]

3. I'd almost forgotten about him.

What a shame. I was so close.

[greatauntoftriplets]

4. Sure sounds like him indeed.....

:scared:

[mike_c]

5. yup, it sure does sound like Carlos....

eom

[MuseRider]

7. A blast from the past!

Yes, it is Carlos. Gotta be.

[Blue_Tires]

8. who is he?

i take it he is not on our side? (that post in the link doesn't help his case)

[sweetheart]

12. He's a regular guy

who speaks his mind frankly, and for that, his authenticity made him a
great participant in debates, as he is certainly anything but politically
correct. I can't say i agreed nor disagreed with him, just that i felt
him to be an excellent agent provocateur.

He got banned a coupla years back, too bad we can't have amnesty for
some of the lost prodigals.

[Toots]

14. I agree with you, I enjoyed some of his banter

It would be nice to give them a second or third shot as the case may be.

[Zinfandel]

20. He could come back...(different name), I did. I do sort of miss him...

[Zinfandel]

23. Who did he really used to go at it with? He had a long username gave great

one line replies, (posts), would always reply to "jiacinto" as "Carlos", most times, patronizingly, and he used to always listen to & post about Bernie Ward's show. He lived in the Bay Area and also got "Tombstoned" right after I did...I used to love the guy...but I can't recall his username...I really miss that guy!

[alcibiades_mystery]

30. He had a long running feud with a guy named Rabideau

who I haven't seen around here in ages.

[Zinfandel]

36. No, trumad would know, he knows everything round here, maybe CatWoman...

knows too...and KoKo01...

[LaPera]

43. Well Zinfandel just got Tombstoned for being candid...He'll be back!

[Fenris]

45. As a general rule...

It probably is a good idea not to mention on the board what your previous incarnation was if you were banned. And announcing that you were banned is also probably not a great course of action.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

52. And a star-bellied sneetch at that.

:rofl:

[trumad]

68. I'm thinking if this guy was Oracle with his first go around here on DU

he should have know that he would be banned again on this go around. ;-)

[NMDemDist2]

9. OMG

:wow:

had to kick this one

[Kat45]

10. I just clicked on it, and there's nothing there now.

Did he get deleted?

[Zinfandel]

11. Man, he used to drive me crazy!!! When I was "Oracle" I used to go

round and around with him. We both got "Tombstoned" about the same time for different reasons.

[Armstead]

13. Ah Carlos we hardly knew ye

I remember going around the tree with Carlos about Nader.....

But I sorta remember going around the tree with Trumad aout that too. :hi:

Despite it all, I kinda liked Carlos in a strange way. He had a certain bizarre innocence about him beneath his bluster.

[alcibiades_mystery]

32. Hardly knew him? Jeez, we had the whole story of his life

Remember those silly pictures he put up of himself, together with his real name and address, his saga about his evil brother, and the weirdo Florida story?

[Generic Other]

15. What?? He's ragging on Cynthia McKinney? I am shocked

Carlos made a whole cottage industry of McKinney-hating.

[greatauntoftriplets]

18. Andy Stephenson and I spent so many hours on Yahoo ....

Messenger (privately, that is....)...LOLing at Carlos' antics and progressive hating. I will say this for him, he was a source of frequent amusement...as well as frequent bemusement.

[oasis]

29. And Lieberman loving.

;-)

[JanMichael]

17. The link does not work.

I wish it would have though because I'd love to see Carlos spew out some new mumbo-jumbo.

I sort of miss the neurotic bugger.

[Generic Other]

19. try this one

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/4/3/182120/9173

[stevedeshazer]

22. Thanks for the link. That's definitely him.

:)

[Generic Other]

26. Who else would advocate making McKinney "suffer"?

"If she did attack the police officer and punched him, I hope she suffers for her actions...Cynthia McKinney is such an embarassment to the Democratic Party. I know that she is a hero who can do no wrong to some of you, but she really needs to pay the full price if she was guilty in this situation."

[JanMichael]

27. Thanks! That was definitely Carlos.

Sort of jumping the gun on the whole mess and taking a shot at a Liberal.

[Andromeda]

62. Thanks, this link works.

This is Carlos all right. Carlos had strong opinions and there wasn't any dispute he would shy away from. He was a centrist or a moderate Democrat---definitely not a liberal.

Some far-left liberal DUers would just rip into him and he would find himself on the receiving end of a flamefest. He held his own pretty well and he was consistent. Every time he would make a point it never failed to get a negative reaction---although, not always. There were many who agreed with some of his opinions.

Carlos had good analytical skills and had a good memory for details about candidates and differents political races around the country.

He loved Lieberman and hated Nader. Carlos would back up many of his statements with actual stats and it would support much of what he said.

I kind of miss him and hope he is doing well whereever he is.

[stevedeshazer]

21. I enjoyed him. He was almost always wrong.

A greater Nader-hater there never was, too. All you had to do was post the word "Nader" and he'd be sure to show up soon, always indignant with rage.

Thanks for the memory. :)

[Generic Other]

24. Or Michael Moore

I never uttered his name without Carlos wagging his finger in my face and telling me what a bad man Moore was.

[KittyWampus]

35. Actually, I think Al Sharpton was who finally drove him over the cliff

[NYC]

59. Yes, it was Sharpton.

That's how he finally got himself banned.

[Jack Rabbit]

25. "Sorry. I can't Seem to find that story"

If it was Carlos, it shows he can get his posts deleted over there, too.

He and I crossed swords often.

[Pastiche423]

28. He hated Cynthia, but

LOVED Holy Joe.

My very 1st deleted post was because of him. He loved the alert button!

I'd rather he not come back here.

Where'd he end up living?

[dweller]

33. in his SUV?

i remember he posted the most huge fricking graphics, charts, etc. to back his stats.

talk about YELLING...

dp

[hunter]

61. I wonder if he still has his SUV.

It would be fun to toss him and Bev Harris into a pit and...

Oh, bother, nevermind. Some possible outcomes would be pretty gross.

[Arugula Latte]

31. Did Carlos get tombstoned?

I don't miss the guy, that's for sure.

[KoKo]

34. yes......

[dionysus]

37. for trashing Sharpton during the primaries when per rules

candidates were off limits.

he was obsessed with McKinney, Sharpton, Nader, and Michael Moore.

[oasis]

38. You don't miss him maybe because he's still here.

[Pastiche423]

39. Can you PM his screen name?

Please?

[oasis]

40. Do your own detective work, beggining with, who's NOT on this thread.

;-)

[RagingInMiami]

47. Yeah, that will help narrow the field down a bit

[Swamp Rat]

42. I thought for sure Carlos was going to go to Iraq since he talked so tough

It appears I was right about him all along - he's a little weenie wimp who has resorted to picking on black women. :eyes:

Carlos the Chicken! :D

[Fenris]

44. I've met less hawkish Republicans.

Also, less conservative Republicans. He was truly an anomaly.

[RagingInMiami]

46. Was he Cuban?

Sounds like a typical Miami right-wing Cuban.

[Awsi Dooger]

53. He is from the DC area

Then he moved to north Miami after graduation and had plenty of trouble there, with his job and getting mugged, etc. Carlos detailed everything in Lounge posts that were increasingly frantic. It was good for him to get out of there and back to the DC area, with a chaotic stop in between, staying with his brother and family in Iowa. I haven't heard from Carlos in a couple of years but I'm glad to see he is posting on Kos again. I checked recently and there was nothing from him for months on Kos.

[Hardrada]

48. Wasn't he the Debbie Downer who always had stats

about how Dems were going to lose certain elections and by how much? I remember thinking that was treasonable and disgusting. Am I right about that electoral BS?

[Awsi Dooger]

49. That doesn't sound like Jiacinto

He didn't prioritize math or predictions but he did respond to my statistical posts regularly, and with helpful input. He knows voting trends very well in specific counties and regions.

[Hardrada]

54. Okay, that IS he. He always had some deflating

voting trend predictions. Or perhaps "realistic" trend predictions. I never posted back then so I might be a tad fuzzy. He seemed interesting more than objectionable.

[Awsi Dooger]

56. His posts on voting trends were interesting

He would look at electoral maps, for example, and find counties with voting trends he didn't understand, then post threads asking DUers about it. To me it was excellent stuff. He always responded to my statistically-oriented threads, more reliably than any other DUer, even though he didn't always agree with me.

Carlos jumped into almost every argument and certain ones he wouldn't let go of. The names have already been mentioned -- Nader, Lieberman, McKinney, Moore. I think he finally got booted when he posted the same negative opinions about Al Sharpton in what was designated as a "Sharpton Supporters" thread.

[JI7]

57. it was one of those "say something good about this candidate"

threads. there was one for each of the primary candidates and only good things were to be said. they were mostly in response to all the flamewars over the primary.

i have heard there are ways one can get back on. i wonder why or if Carlos ever did that or would do it.

[Awsi Dooger]

58. No, he was adamant about not coming back to DU

For maybe a year after he was banned I emailed with Carlos fairly regularly. Before he got banned I think there were warnings and he had disputes with some of the higher ups here. Of course, let me emphasize I was getting Carlos' spin on the matter so I'm not sure what the full truth was.

He said many posters would complain about him, I suppose to the administrators, and the DU brass PMed that they were sick of dealing with it all the time. Carlos' side was the complaints weren't justified and more of a piling on attempt by the same posters who didn't agree with his less-than-liberal views. He thought the final matter in the Sharpton thread was overblown but since it came on top of the previous incidents and warnings it prompted the ban. I asked him about getting reinstated but he wanted nothing of it, saying he was happy at Kos. But I can tell you he obviously did follow DU closely even after being banned, because he mentioned the BevHarris and TIA episodes frequently via email.

[RogueTrooper]

63. Carlos had the classic personality of somebody

who has been frequently bullied. The confrontational nature of much of his discourse came from being bullied - a means to strike back at the people who bullied him. He suffered a great deal of bullying here on DU from people who, whilst they should have known better always seemed to forget.

If you think it is impossible for people on DU to bully somebody - just think about this thread - it was started to call out a long gone poster who nobody really liked.

[FlaGranny]

50. No post there. Deleted?

Carlos, for those of you who didn't know him, was a moderate - right down the middle. He could be annoying. I agreed with him 100% on Nader and I still do. Carlos was the MOST picked on DUer ever. I felt sorry for him. But he was a pit bull when it came to his opinions. Didn't know when to give it a rest. I've seen it said he couldn't resist a Nader post. Some people on here couldn't resist a Carlos post and would jump in, no matter what it was about, and rag him endlessly. People weren't nice to him, but he was more polite than many here, and I liked him too. He was a young, single college kid with some bad luck and without much family support. I don't believe he was Cuban, but not sure. I PM'd with him a couple of times.

[Awsi Dooger]

55. His parents died when Carlos was young

And you're right, he didn't have great support from other familty members.

He had a ton of posts here, tens of thousands. Certain DUers did salivate at the chance to rip Jiacinto. He handled it OK when he was in college but when he had the trouble in Miami his posts became increasingly erratic and troubled. I remember a few times he posted threads in the Lounge and when no one responded within 5 or 7 minutes he would respond to his own thread with simply the words, "Reply! Reply!"

[salin]

69. I found him irritating at times,

especially when he would lecture about how Evan Bayh had to vote center right because he was from a *red* state - and I live in said state - and am very familiar with how right or not on different votes Bayh had to go - and by now my early conventional wisdom (that he had been centrist, elected state-wide three times - now four - as a centrist, but moved further right after going to DC - much further than he needed to go for this state... but was doing so to position himself for a higher office). He didn't want to hear it, and was rudely patronizing about it. I think that he participated a bit in setting the stage for pile-ons - due to the behavior that I describe in my interactions with him over Bayh. I tried a couple of times to coach him on how to make points without being quite so belligerent - so that some real discussions could follow - as some issues he raised could have been thought provoking if folks were conversing instead of tossing molotov cocktails at each other.

That said, I also recognized him as a person - I watched him grow a bit after reading and discussing 'nickle and dimed to death' and have some realizations about the different america that many people experience compared to his and his college friends had experienced. I also remember it seemed like he was really going over an edge, and I was concerned about him during the time you are refering to (in the lounge.)

I hope that he is okay. However I can't say that I miss being patronized by a kid who tried to throw his credentials out as being "more" than many others (his was a good school, he worked in dc, etc.) - without knowing the credentials of those to whom he was being patronizing (for example, I went to a substantial school, I worked in dc, I also worked in the dem consulting circle in dc for a period).

[NYC]

60. The family story varied.

It wasn't consistent.

[DemExpat]

65. I also had a soft spot for him, and rather enjoyed his

confrontations with PC DU thought.

DemEx

[trumad]

71. Yeah--- I hated those Nader haters back then...

;-)

[salin]

72. bwaahahaha

kumbaya with Trumad and the Naderites.... I remember it well.... *snicker*

[JI7]

51. i remember he would post names of nations

and then ask us to "discuss".

[RogueTrooper]

64. You should be ashamed of yourselves

:eyes:

you are nothing but shamefull bullies.

[trumad]

66. LOL

Nah---we're just interested in the Psyche of a guy like Carlos. He was certainly one of a kind here at DU.

[salin]

70. indeed it is sort of a form of flattery

that one poster is so clearly recalled, two years or so after his last post here.

Can I admit that I was ever, ever so slightly fond (as in the akward little brother sort of fond) of his annoying (as in a gnat annoyance) antics. Perhaps more fond in hindsight/memory - than in real-time.

The fact that so many also recall so much about him... suggests that others might (begrudgingly) have the same reaction.

[xchrom]

67. carlos/jiacinto always gave me the creeps.

i know some sort liked him -- but he had a passive aggressive way with him that creeped me right the fuck out.

ick.

[Moderator]

73. Locking....

This person is long gone. Let's give this a rest.