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AGENDA21 Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:54 AM
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Ukraine May Have Sold 250 Nuclear Warheads To Iran
MOSCOW, April 3 (RIA Novosti) - The chief of Russia's General Staff said Monday he could neither confirm nor deny reports that Ukraine had sold 250 nuclear warheads to Iran.

"Russia's General Staff has no information about whether Ukraine has given 250 nuclear warheads to Iran or not," General Yury Baluyevsky, also deputy defense minister, said in response to an article in Novaya Gazeta newspaper Monday. "I do not comment on unsubstantiated reports."

The newspaper said that Ukraine had failed to return 250 warheads to Russia in the 1990s when the former Soviet republic declared itself a nuclear-free zone. The paper suggested the warheads could have been sold to a third country, including Iran.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060403/45107320.html
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:58 AM
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1. Or pakistan, Iraq, Libya, North Korea
Why is this coming out right now? Planted for ShrubCo to stage himself ANOTHER war?
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 06:12 AM
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3. Or to keep ShrubCo from starting another war - having nukes has
sure kept places like N Korea from being Axis of Evil members who got bombed by the US.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 06:08 AM
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2. If true, Iran has shown itself to be a responsible member of "the club"
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 06:11 AM by leveymg
That would have happened in the early 1990s. If Iran has had nuclear weapons all this time, they certainly haven't used them. What makes Iran any different from Pakistan in this respect?

If they do have nuclear weapons, that's yet another reason not to bomb Iran. That's the only reaction a sane person can have. Don't you think?
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 06:27 AM
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4. Operative term- "sane"
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 06:44 AM
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5. Is this what Putkin was to give to Bu$h?
A rumor Iran has nukes. Sounds sort of like Poland/Finland. Putkin rolls into the Ukraine, Bu$h rolls into Iran. "I looked into his eyes and saw his soul."
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 06:49 AM
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6. "No one could have anticipated Iran might have nuclear warheads,"
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 06:49 AM by IanDB1
said pResident Bush, from an undisclosed location two days after the first of over a dozen nuclear strikes on American cities.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:12 AM
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11. this is sooo "cuban missile crisis"
and perhaps the same mistake is in play, that the "intel" is
very outdated as to the readyness of the opponent. During the cuban
missile crisis, they wanted to bomb cuba, invade even, not realizing
that the nukes were already in place, and would ahve been launched.

..A trivia from that movie of "Robert Mcnamara"
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 06:52 AM
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7. Beware of gamesmanship!
This could be a rumor ala yellowcake... Who knows where the seeds of this where originally planted. The tentacles of the BFEE are far flung and deeply embedded, consider the trickery of times past
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:43 AM
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12. If it's BushCo disinfo, then it's stupid disinfo. Just another reason
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 08:09 AM by leveymg
NOT to bomb Iran, as I said above. Kinda makes the argument for a preemptive strike to prevent Iran from developing nukes kinda moot. Don't you think?

Slight odds that it's Russian disinfo. Or, it could be partial truth. Maybe Iran got a handful - the problem with this is that some idiots might be tempted to try a commando raid if they thought all of them could be seized at once. These things have a way of going disastrously wrong, and could trigger a war. That is what I think is the most serious threat presented. The Israelis have talked about commando raids, and this may be what they're referring to.

There have been persistent rumours that ex-Soviet nukes went into the international black market in the early 1990s. Iran would be expected to be a potential bidder. I wish the CIA would just open up its files and let us all know what they think really happened. Valerie, please alert the media.

Back to attacking Iran. Doesn't matter, really, whether Iran has nukes. If bombs fall, or there's some kind of raid on its nuclear sites, Iran will launch ALL its ballistic missiles -- we know for a certainty that they have chemical/biological warheads -- a sizable percentage targeted on Israel. If some get through the Israeli ABM defense causing significant damage and casualties, the Israelis will do exactly what they say they'll do. Nuke Iran's cities.

What follows is the general Middle-East war and global crisis every sane person on all sides has worked to avoid.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 06:54 AM
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8. Right. Sure they did. Does anyone honestly believe.....
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 06:55 AM by Media_Lies_Daily
...that this could have taken place without being noticed in the 1990s? Wouldn't this have been a blockbuster story during the 1990s?

I seem to recall that the CIA used to have a group that monitored the global movement of WMDs and WMD materials. Gee...whatever happened to that global network?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:01 AM
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9. I think someone named Valerie Plame was involved somehow n/t
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:08 AM
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10. I thought that Saddam Hussein had
given them to his mortal enemy Iraq right before the invasion . . .
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:22 AM
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13. I thought nukes had a 'shelf life'
the triggers needed to be refreshed from time to time as the tritium (I think it is) decayed naturally.

They cannot be stored indefinitely, can they?
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:13 AM
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14. So 250 nuclear warheads are missing
I would guess some will show up in near future unless Republicans lose control. The world does not think too highly of Republican control. Sort of like how the world felt about 1940 Germany.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:21 AM
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15. This story could be a plant.
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