Jon Stewart -WTF is his deal

[Twist_U_Up]

He opened last nights show with a small bit on Delay and the crowd went ballistic but he then quickly threw in McKinneys altercation and ran with that instead of beating up on Delay somemore.

It might just be me but this looks as if he was trying to deflect Delays corruption over to the Dems.

Fuck him. This is the same as the pukes talking points about the Dems being tied to Jack mehoff.

Lets see if this trend continues.

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[Ress1]

2. Jon has been 99.9% anti GOP

and you complain about this! C'mon.

[Twist_U_Up]

6. Yea I do.

sorry but He is smearing a very good woman before shes even been charged.I`ll call his bluff. No fucking way Delay gets less air time than Mckinney.Thats bushit and we all know it.


But then again its his show right. tss.
Horseshit its conveint this happened just before dickhead delay resigns.All to conveint. It stinks like shit to me,just like everything else these scrubs in the house senate and the resident has been pulling for well over 5 years.

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[ShortnFiery]

20. Like the DLC democrats I give him a buy ...

I think like many Democrats, he overestimates the power of the so called "moderates leaning right."

They did not accurately take the pulse of the undercurrent of massive support our good congresswoman can look forward to IF CHARGED.

[bunkerbuster1]

64. A "Buy?" Is that some crypto-anti-Jewish slight?

You think Jews are just about the money DON'T YOU???!!!1!!1!!1

kidding. Just wanted to say, you mean "bye," in this instance.

[ShortnFiery]

154. Roger That! ..... silly!

Do ya mean I've been screwing this up all my life? Giving someone "a bye" not a "a buy" huh?

Gee, but I do know it's "Fringe" not "French" benefits. :blush:

Thanks for the education.

[mwb970]

26. Very good woman?

Personally, I could do with a lot less arrogance and downright crazy behavior from McKinney. I think Jon was right to make fun of her. But hey, that's just me.

[ShortnFiery]

42. All our great leaders were a little "crazy"

No harm in that ... you have to be a little "self-destrutive" to DARE take on the powers that be. It's those crazy "I will make the system work for the little guy" people who gave us our labor unions and lifted all workers up.

We need more so called "crazies" like McKinney in our government if ever us "little people" can hold onto the HOPE of being heard above the "cha ching" of corporate pay offs.

[Ian David]

62. Can we put Cynthia McKinney and Catherine Harris in a cage match? n/t

[ShortnFiery]

77. You know, my money's on McKinney ...

She'd hand Harris her bony ass in less than one round. ;)

[stanwyck]

106. Cynthia's my representative

she kicks ass. Literally.

[Bake]

99. I second THAT motion!!

A LOT less arrogance. JS was right to call her out on it.

Bake

[Atman]

30. Delay is both an easy target and old news

Delay is CORRUPT? Surprise!

But the McKinney thing is new, and it was good comedy. McKinney is no saint, and regardless of the outcome, she is in the news right now. It was good comedy. If democrats can't take a few lumps on a 99% anti-republican show, then we have no business being in politics.

[mondo joe]

35. He's done PLENTY on DeLay and will continue to do so.

And his McKinney bit is no more a "smear" than any other thing on the show.

[Mr_Spock]

75. Amazing isn't it?

Unbelievable how some twits would ruin the whole thing just because he's not 100%.

:mad:

[lutefisk]

93. It seems he has spent all the "capital" he earned blasting CNN

His "I'm mad as Hell and I'm not going to take it anymore" CNN appearance was great, but the worthwhile parts of his show are becoming fewer and fewer. My three biggest complaints:

1. The NPR-esque equal time to both "sides" crap
2. The cackling, juvenile, Jerry Lewis-like tone the show is taking on
3. The horrible interviews- it's painful to see guests unable to get a word in and then run out of time

edit: oops, I wasn't responding to Ress1 in particular, just the thread topic overall

[rinsd]

110. Did you see last night's show? He absolutely destroyed McCain.

[IndyJones]

132. I don't care who he makes fun of - dem or repubs...it's all hilarious!

[AtomicKitten]

137. He chewed him up and spit him out, and then backed over him with a truck.

And it was a beautiful thing.

[ET Awful]

3. Because it's a COMEDY SHOW.

A woman smacking a cop is much funnier than a dipshit corrupt asshole resigning.

[DrGonzoLives]

29. Thank you

The number of people here who seem to think that The Daily Show is legitimate news is frightening.

[ET Awful]

32. To use Stewarts own words . . .

"The show that leads into me is puppets making crank phone calls."

[Ian David]

66. Agreed. Smacking people has been funny since pre-neolithic times

Hunter-gatherers never sat around the campfire making jokes about Zog laundering stolen coconuts for Bandar's chieftain campaign.

Smacking people is primal comedy.

[kitkat65]

98. Agreed. Another good example is this season's first Sopranos episode . . .

where the buddhist monk bitch slaps Tony. Priceless, especially since it came from a buddhist monk.

[rinsd]

115. Well your sense of humor is showing no problems...

"Hunter-gatherers never sat around the campfire making jokes about Zog laundering stolen coconuts for Bandar's chieftain campaign"

That cracked me up :thumbsup:

[EST]

4. Jon is, first and foremost, a comedian.

He happily takes pot shots at anyone vulnerable and McKinney seems to go out of her way to make herself vulnerable. I do not think she would take exception to his brand of humor.

[katty]

123. yes, and makes sure he reminds the aud/guests that he is

[cali]

5. oh for pete's sake.

I knew someone would come up with this post. Stewart is a comedian. The McKinney story, like it or not, is rife with comedic possibilities. Of course he went for it. This whining about what comedians choose to lampoon is ridiculous. Don't like it? Don't watch it.

[fasttense]

7. "Is rife with comedic possibilities." Ok, you did it. I now have visions

of the Benny Hill police chase with Congresswoman McKinney being chased by the DC police and fellow House Republicans.

[Twist_U_Up]

9. Thanks for the advice

Im just glad I dont have your sense of humor

[NYCGirl]

56. And they say liberals have no sense of humor.

:eyes:

[Ian David]

67. Maybe Santa will bring you one for xmas? n/t

[blogslut]

8. The Delay

news happened overnight last night. The McKinney thing happened over the weekend. They'll do Delay later this week I betcha. Maybe even tonight.

[Twist_U_Up]

10. I hope so

This was not fair at all. McKinney has not even been charged and jon links her to a cell phone knife ? wtf

[blogslut]

11. I missed it

I'll see it later today. :)

[Bake]

100. The Motorola Shiv Phone!

It was priceless! Lighten up.

Bake

[Bridget Burke]

18. DeLay is the gift that keeps on giving....

Local Republicans were caught off guard--the Houston Chronicle's main headline said something like "Scrambling Without DeLay."

On the morning news one of his "Christian" (as distinct from real Christian) allies called DeLay's legal problem persecution. Because he's such a good Christian. DeLay was shown speaking touchingly of Terry Schiavo. The news guys said he might have a future as a preacher--if he avoids prison. I detected a hint of sarcasm.

If Houston's "regular" media can poke subtle fun at the crook, I'm sure the Daily Show is preparing something really good. And he hasn't even gone to trial yet!

[Mend]

12. around here Stewart (rerun) and Olbermann are on at exactly the

same time. KO spent hours on Delay and zero on McKinney. KO is my kind of guy....we don't watch Jon anymore. He also still likes to trash President Clinton. Maybe we are too sensitive but with the noise almost 100% puke out there, we need one show that is safe to watch and that seems to be KO.

[mdmc]

13. there are better comedies out there

simpsons, family guy... but they all make fun of Clinton as well.

[ghostsofgiants]

116. Oh dear, not Saint William!!!

:eyes:

[Twist_U_Up]

19. I agree. Jon usually does a good job being fair but

Cynthia is getting a raw deal as it is . Having being convicted even before she is charged or has had her day in court isnot fair and Jon should know better.

[mondo joe]

49. He's not suppposed to be fair, he's supposed to be funny.

If you are looking for fair, I suggest the Newshour.

[BootinUp]

14. I'm sure the McKinney situation was a hard one to pass

on for Jon. My own opinion is that both sides are wrong. In other words McKinney has a horrible relationship with these police. I understand she claims to have lots of problems with them. Is that all the policemen's fault? Doubtful.

[Twist_U_Up]

22. doubtful ?

OK Jim4wes in a congressman and has spoken out loudly about Election Fraud,9-11,Katrina and numerous other scams and you doubt the fault of the cops .

ok

[BootinUp]

25. I said both were at fault. n/t

[Ian David]

15. Oh, get a grip

[maveric]

118. He's showing "fairness". If a Dem fucks up then they should be...

ridiculed and exposed. IMHO, McKinney fucked up.

[Ian David]

139. It doesn't matter if she fucked-up or not...

what matters is that a chick hitting a cop is funny.

Period.

Right, Daahhhhling?

[Thtwudbeme]

16. probably because it was easier to joke about McKinney

the man is a comedian.

[Twist_U_Up]

21. How so ?

Delay is a walking joke. I dont get your sense of humor

[Thtwudbeme]

31. I haven't displayed a sense of humor this morning; I have a Latin test

and don't feel very "funny" right now.

There is nothing for you to "get" other than a statement of opinion that I made.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

23. If you think Stewart is a problem, then I would say that you....

...haven't been paying attention to the bulk of what he's been saying for quite some time.

[Twist_U_Up]

24. I have and I like him but

its not right that he is painting a picture of her without the facts.
I have no problem if he rips on her after the fact but if she is cleared eventually, how many people now see her as a loon ?

He linked her to being a racist and a cell phone knife.

Delay on the other hand is quickly forgotten about.

comedy show yes,fair to Mckinney no

[EFerrari]

90. TUP, the cell "knife" made fun of the capitol police by pointing

out that they're supposed to be keeping the Capitol safe from REAL weapons, and here they are making a big deal out of a tiny cell phone.

That wasn't a slam at Cynthia at all. :)

In all, he was making fun of **the reporting**, not slamming McKinney. Especially when he used that awful picture of her -- which the Corp media has been spreading around everywhere.

[rinsd]

112. "how many people now see her as a loon"

As opposed to before?

You do realize what McKinney public persona is don't you?

Did you watch the whole show? Because you don't seem to mention Cordoy satire on equivalency. You also don't mention the absolute destruction of John McCain, Jon's opening ripping Bush or Studs Terkel ripping the prez.

Let's see that's at least 5 to 1 by my count of anti-GOP seg vs. anti-Dem segs.

[liberalpress]

167. Facts? Facts?

A news report needs facts. A comedy show doesn't need facts! It just needs comedy! The McKinney bit is funny!

[Hamlette]

27. We run the risk of becoming like "them" if we lose our sense of humor

only making fun of the other side, refusing to see when someone on our side missteps, defending those missteps even if they become indefensible...sounds like the GOP play book to me.

I haven't been reading the threads here or paying attention to this issue but the clips he played from her press conference and on Blitzer...she bears some responsibility for making this story worse. She was arrogant and just awful. She deserves it. Watch it again. She's playing the victim when she would be better off to just apologize.

[MrBenchley]

28. McKinney IS a fucking joke

and Stewart is a comedian....

[Ekirh]

36. Simple and correct right there.

Trust me the Delay thing isn't going anywhere and Stewart can touch on Delay again and agian as he pleased. The Mckinney thing was recent and Jon figured he touch on that more instead this time. I won't be surprised to see Delay slapped around a bit more in the future. He is a wide open target.


The Daily Show . . . serious business :eyes: (That isn't directed at you MrBenchley . . I'm pretty sure that's obvious but making that clear)

[MrBenchley]

39. It always amazes me when people bitch

because Stewart makes fun of Democrats too.....are they really THAT humor-impaired?

[seriousstan]

33. FUCK HIM!! Throw him under the bus.

I disagree with one of his skits, screw him forever. Why are their "perfect" comedians??

Probably for the same reason there are no perfect politicians, because the minute we disagree with 1% of their work we throw them under the bus and cry "FUCK THEM".

[Marie26]

80. We demand perfect

comedic purity from Stewart. He must make fun of the Repukes, but never the Dems. He must never mention a Democrat in less than glowing terms or we'll start threatening to throw him under the bus, or wondering if he's actually a covert DLC operative. I think, if Stewart read this thread, he'd probably be making fun of DU, too.

[Skinner]

34. I am so tired of DUers ragging on Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert.

They have two of the best shows on television. Smart and funny. The purpose of these shows is not to validate my worldview -- it's entertainment.

Relax and enjoy it. You'll be a much happier person.

[cyanide]

37. I agree

His show is comedy

Not news reporting.

And all in all I do believe he stands with the Democrats

[OzarkDem]

40. Its kind of funny

that some people don't understand that Colbert is doing satire. A few people think he's serious, I suppose, but only if they take him literally.

He's a master at what he's doing and I guess I can see how someone who isn't paying close attention doesn't understand.

[mondo joe]

44. When I discovered some on DU weren't sure Colbert is satire

or were upset by his show, I felt very, very afraid.

[Ian David]

71. Wait until they find out about pro-wrestling, Santa Claus, and Astrology

[TheBaldyMan]

102. you mean ... pro-wrestling is fixed ?!?!?

*faints*

[Marie26]

81. or kind of frightening.

People w/o a sense of humor kind of scare me.

[Thtwudbeme]

46. I kind of understand though: this is the result of years of cable TV using

"news" as "entertainment."

The level of cultural understanding of the two concepts has been blurred so badly that it is hard to turn on the TV right now and tell what is "serious" and what is "entertainment."

Think of the old Saturday Night Live...if we had the internet and DU back then, but regular TV...there would be no "WTF was up with Chevy Chase last night???"

Interesting, and a sad commentary on the times we live in.

[Norquist Nemesis]

50. Nicely done!

:thumbsup:

[BootinUp]

52. its a little more than just entertainment

Hard to deny Stewart's passion to criticize the current regime and criticize the news media for their lack of doing so. He feels its a threat to the democracy. But I would agree that he does not take ideological stances.

[Skinner]

59. Kinda agree. Kinda disagree.

I don't think it's more than entertainment. It's primary purpose is to entertain.

But I agree that Stewart clearly disagrees with the current regime and thinks the media has done a very bad job. Any unbiased observer should be able to tell that Stewart is very much on our side politically. The fact that he sometimes takes pot-shots at Democrats does not change the fact that he is on our side. It seems obvious to me.

[AtomicKitten]

140. He doesn't subscribe to blind allegiance to the left side of the aisle.

Occasionally he makes me cringe, but that always causes me to examine why, and I inevitably end up admitting my own bias before reason.

Well done, Jon-boy. You are a mensch.

[katty]

125. indeed-they are 2 of the best shows

[REP]

177. I'm Not Agreeing Because You're The Admin But Because You're Right

But does this post make my nose look brown?

[Ekirh]

38. His DEAL is he's a comedian first

He isn't this great newsman .. he isn't this man who is going to topple the right wing with his reporting and his vigorous critquing. He is there to put on a good comedy show. Sometimes he'll make fun of things we'll find a riot . . and at times he'll make fun of things we think he shouldn't. There will always be "Fuck Jon Stewart" posts in G.D.

Stewart is one of the best things on television right now. I don't mind him taking a slam at Democrats every now and then . . they deserve it just as well.

Not to mention this Delay thing isn't going away . . Stewart has plenty of time in the future, and has done so plenty in the past to continue (Spelling?) slamming him.

[meisje]

41. I stand with John! She's Bat Sh$t Insane!

:crazy:

[ShortnFiery]

45. It was a joke ...

What I find seriously depressing is that America has the mentality of "Junior High Students." You know those awkward years where we all worry about decorum and not looking out of place or, heaven forbid <gasp> bat shit insane.

That bat shit insane pushy-black-broad is the best hope for allowing the voices of the "little people" to be heard. Yeah, she's wired, but one of the very few congresspersons with the courage to put herself on the line, yes, unlike our other freaked out "oh my, we must fit in" representatives, she dared stand tall and strong.

Oh how embarrassing! Nope, not for me.

Long may McKinney rant for us people who are not afraid to call ourselves "liberal." Yes LIBERAL not progressive. :P

[slaveplanet]

92. I think Cheney's bat shit insane

I think Rumsfeld is batshit insane
I think Myers is batshit insane
I could go down the list ...
and even include some dems
I think Biden is batshit insane...
I'll refrain from going further

but Cynthia McKinney would not be near the top of the list

Everyones entitled to their opinion... eh

[lectrobyte]

43. He's not your trained monkey.

[rpgamerd00d]

47. OMFG! JON STEWART IS A COMEDIAN!!! WTF?!?!?!?!?!

:sarcasm:

[ShortnFiery]

48. I copy ...

Over and Out. :hi:

[DubyaSux]

51. I think Jon Stewart....

....showed how ridiculous some here sound in the blind defense of McKinney. Crying racism in regards to this incident cheapens "real" racism much like our idiot-in-chief has cheapened the meaning of terrorism.

She was to either wear the special pin or go through security. She chose neither. That has nothing to do with the color of her skin.

[renate]

101. "Crying racism in regards to this incident cheapens "real" racism"

:applause:

Great point, nicely made.

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[mondo joe]

54. DeLayy vindicated? Stephen Colbert, is that you?

Thanks for the early morning crack up!

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[mondo joe]

57. Go away before someone drops a tombstone on you.

If DeLay is vindicated it will be in the news, just like every other whiny baby republican stealing from future generations of Americans.

But that's not gonna' happen.

[EstimatedProphet]

86. He he you so funny

Dude, you should learn how to capitalize correctly. And think.

Yeah, both of those things.

[NYCGirl]

60. Gee, Pachederm, can your username be any more OBVIOUS? And BTW,

YOU SPELLED IT INCORRECTLY.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

68. ROTFLMAO

:rofl:

[CatWoman]

78. bwahahahahahaha

:rofl:

[Marie26]

84. LOL. nt

[RDU Socialist]

58. OH MY GOD SOMEONE MAKING FUN OF DEMOCRATS

WHAT AN ASSHOLE! Oh give me a fucking break, I've seen much worse things said about Democrats on this board than I have seen Jon Stewart say. So he made fun of McKinney, she hit a cop, she's got an arrest warrant out for her, and she's been uterrly classless in how she handled this, IMMEDIATELY jumping to racism (which she has EVERY SINGLE TIME she's ever had an altercation). McKinney has claimed Gore is a racist, and I'm supposed to take her seriously?

[kentuck]

61. My major complaint against Jon Stewart...

...is that he has important guests, like Studs Terkel, and he is limited to like 5 or 6 minutes for a make-believe interview. I wish his show was longer and he could spend more time with his guests.

[bunkerbuster1]

65. Sometimes he does

I've seen him devote two segments for guest interviews on occasions.

But yeah, that time-squeeze is a problem most of the time.

[DainBramaged]

63. You can't be serious?

Do you go ballistic when your Chips-Ahoy don't contain 101 chips? Back off, Christ ya just can't please a;ll of the people all of the time.

[Freddie Stubbs]

69. Stewart is showing his true colors

[mondo joe]

70. Yes. His true colors: funny.

Thank goodness.

[Freddie Stubbs]

73. Exactly

[Ian David]

72. Anyone remember when Zsa Zsa Gabor slapped a cop?

That was funny, too.




Who is she?
Zsa Zsa Gabor - Hollywood actress and author of "The Complete Guide to Men" which is often referred to as the gold-digger's bible. She is more famous for her lengthy string of husbands and her numerous pairs of shoes, than she is for her acting.

What did she do?
Alledgedly, whilst driving through Beverly Hills, CA, Gabor was pulled over by a Police officer. Upon asking for her license and registration it was discovered they had both expired. After waiting ten minutes for the officer to confirm the records, Gabor drove away from the busy cop. Giving chase, the cop pulled Gabor over again and asked her to leave the vehicle. She did so, but slapped the officer in the process. He arrested her and on a subsequent search of the vehicle, a flask of bourbon was discovered.

When?
June 14, 1989

Charged?
Yep, alledgedly with Battery against an officer; disobeying an officer; driving without a registration; driving without a license; driving with an open container of alcohol.

Sentence?
Judge Rubin of the Beverly Hills Municipal Court found Gabor guilty of slapping an officer, and of two of the traffic offenses. Ms. Gabor was sentenced to 72 hours in jail, 120 hours of community service, and ordered her to pay court costs ($13,000)

More:
http://www.mugshots.net/zsa_zsa_gabor/


I think Craig Kilborn made fun of it on The Daily Show.

[Freddie Stubbs]

76. Letterman sure had a field day with that

[blondeatlast]

151. So very well, I waited on her the week after that occurred (I worked at

a ritzy Scottsdale store at the time).

It was all I could do to keep from breaking into hysterical laughter right in her face.

And I would have the same difficulty with Ms. McKinney as well.

[Marie26]

82. He's on my list!

You know, the one I'm compiling of everybody I disagree with.

[ShortnFiery]

74. Hey, I'll avoid the temptation to pile on ...

Those of us who really know who we are are not ashamed of admitting "moments of deep disappointment." Especially when it relates to our political system.

We're all entitled to our mood swings ... we all have them - let's not be BushBots and deny it?

It's cool by me. I was a little peeved too but then thought ---> :wtf: he's a comedian!

However, I can understand your frustration when the only glimmers of hope for our democracy seems to be from "comedy sources." In our fear - mongered American, it seems the only way a person can be shamelessly liberal is through satire.

I understand where you're coming from and will refrain from Dis'ing you.

:hi:

[mondo joe]

79. Well there's certainly one worthwhile sentiment:

"Those of us who really know who we are are not ashamed of admitting 'moments of deep disappointment.' Especially when it relates to our political system."

Remember that if you run into an admission of "deep disappointment". Even if it's with a congressperson you admire.

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[mondo joe]

120. You may not, but others do.

And I suggest you ease up on your accusations. We are both members of a message board, and we're both posting. That's all.

[ShortnFiery]

157. Would you stop repeatedly commenting on my posts? Humble request.

No I'm NOT accusing you of anything wrong since this is a hot topic.

But, don't ya think we know where each other stands?

Trying to argue with me (knowing how much I admire McKinney) is just getting old.

I'm not accusing you of anything but being passionate, but I think we both need a break from arguing with each other?

[mondo joe]

166. I'll comment if I feel it's appropriate, and especially to correct a

falsehood or fallacy. It's not about you.

This is a message board for sharing opinions. I'll live by the rules and ask to do so as well.

If you don't want to live with people sharing their opinions, you can use the ignore option which is there for your benefit.

[ShortnFiery]

172. Ok, as you wish ...

But I want you to know that "I've always loved you!" I'M JOKING!

Remember that last scene when the Nazi's (Henry Gibson from Laugh-In)car drives off the cliff and his Driver exclaims the above?

I'm just trying to break the tension. :hi:

On Edit: It's from "The Blues Brothers Movie" (forgot to add but many movie buffs would know that goes without saying).

[iamthebandfanman]

83. oh please

hes not a politician, hes a comedian.
he can think and say whatever he wants.
if you dont like it, stop watching.

people praise him when he says something they like then totally slam him when he doesnt.

[Marr]

85. He's not your dancing monkey, either.

He's not Tucker Carlson's dancing monkey, and he's not your dancing monkey.

[warrens]

87. He's a freaking comedian

And he doesn't owe it to you or anyone else to cover what you think he should. There are a lot of people around here who should switch to decaf.

If McKinney was a Repuke, we'd be all over her.

[Catherine Vincent]

88. You got to admit that pic he used of McKinney was pretty funny!

[linazelle]

153. I agree...she looked batshit crazy. LOL nt

[The Flaming Red Head]

89. My problem was he only gave Studs about 5 seconds nt

[magpie]

91. cnn...

is still a news channel. There was just the most obnoxious, mean interview of the congresswoman by Soledad O'Brien. I sent an email to this news channel to complain. From the comedy channel I expect comedy. Jon Stewart has been fabulous. From a news channel I expect the news. But, either channel I can simply not watch if I find them offensive.
Here's a good place to post complaints about the news coverage.

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?2

[Ekirh]

94. I only caught . . .

The end of it. . so I can't fully comment on it . . but from the little bit I saw Soledad sounded pushy . . but like I said I can't fully comment on it.

[aikoaiko]

187. kudos for Soledad -- McKinney was evasive

Soledad was BBC like in her questioning -- I hope she does more of it to other policiticians on the right and left.

[Sequoia]

95. and he's getting McCain back on.

Why? Who wants to hear that little snit. Don't even run for President, you're toast.

[mikeytherat]

97. He raked Johnny Mac over the coals!

McCain really didn't know how to respond to Jon Stewart - it was great!

mikey_the_rat

[Hosnon]

96. Wow - This is the type of thing I expect from the "other" side.

I agree with everyone here: he's a comedian.

And even if you don't accept that...he does ONE thing you don't like and you turn on him? You do realize that democracy is about compromise and reason...neither of which your post exhibit.

On a side note: Why the hell does McKinney get God-like status around here? I don't like her (from Georgia). Anytime anyone says so they get crucified. Quit treating her the way Hannity treats Bush.

[ScreamingMeemie]

103. Comedy Show=Meant for fun...How many times have we seen Jon

put his head in his hands over some comment by Bush and company? As he says himself,
"It's a fake news show." With the exception of his slamming on Dean last year (because
I'm a Dean supporter) I have always tried to keep this in mind. I feel you should too.
None of these politicians is above a poke by a comedian. Think of Johnny Carson and you'll
see what I mean.

[SheepyMcSheepster]

104. His deal is that he is a comedian. eom.

[donsu]

105. I didn't like it when he dissed Sidney P. either

nt

[rinsd]

111. I think you mean Harry Belafonte....(nt)

[blondeatlast]

152. Beat me to it--good catch. nt

[donsu]

190. thanks you two for catching that - I couldn't post yesterday to answer

you

I'm terrible with names, always have been. ever since I was 5 yrs. old. people have hated me for not remembering their name. I know from where this comes from and won't bore you with it.

not an excuse, just an explanation

[bklyncowgirl]

107. When politicians do something worthy of skewering JS is there

He is a non-partisan skewerer--although since he has certain standards of public decency, morality and honesty, he has been far more critical of Republicans than Democrats.

Republicans have been giving him terrific material for years but every once in a while a Democrat does something that is truly worthy of a prime spot on the Daily Show (like a member of Congress slugging a police officer) and he goes for it.

It's his job and he does it well. If you want total partisanship with nary a word about the absurdities of your own party, petition the DNC to host a comedy show--"Donkey Kicks" anybody.

[bee]

109. oh fer fucks sake. get ahold of yerself man!

over-react much?

[LSK]

113. ummm he mentioned Delay many times and closed the show with him

Did you watch the whole thing????

:wtf:

[Sunkiss BlueStar]

114. You're right

Cynthia isn't BatShit or whatever he called her. She's outspoken and confrontational but I like those qualities in Dems

So there is a hatred from the right against her because she told the truth about chimpy knowing 9/11 was going to happen and we do not need to bash or discredit her.

Cynthia needs our support. Whos gonna be there when the next attack goes through.?

[thinkingwoman]

117. Comedy?

I think Jon Stewart's "deal" is comedy.

He doesn't owe anything to either political party, or to you. I imagine if he heard you say "Fuck him" he'd make you look ridiculous on national television too.

[ghostsofgiants]

119. Let's see if this trend continues?

You're acting like there's some kind of conspiracy between Jon and the GOP to undermine the values of Jon's liberal viewership or something. It's a fucking comedy show, get a grip. Like others have said: a woman smacking a cop is funnier subject matter than corrupt politicians.

[K-W]

121. He's a comedian silly. EOM

[cboy4]

122. Yes to answer your own question, it might just be you.

Stewart's number one priority is to be funny,,,,at whoever's expense.

The day he starts choosing political correctness in favor of only Democrats over being funny is the day Comedy Central beings looking for his replacement.

He has millions of dollars worth of reasons why he's not going to let that happen.

[ShaneGR]

124. Crazy congress woman wearing afro assaults capital hill police...

Come on, it's funny. Even McKinney seems to want to talk about her "hair-do", this stuff is hilarious when you take a step back and look at it as an outsider.... WHICH IS WHAT STEWART HAS REPEATEDLY SAID HE IS.

[Ian David]

145. If Dick Cheney can joke about shooting a guy in the face...

then surely Jon Stewart (who is much funnier than Cheney) can joke about a woman smacking a cop.

Anyone who disagrees with me hates America and is only giving aid and comfort to Bill O'Reilly.

There.

The anti-Jon-Stewart insurgency is in its last throes.

We're laughing at them on The Daily Show, so we don't have to laugh at them on Fox.

Freedom is on the march.

god bless the stoned slackers.

[name not needed]

126. Congratulations. You lack the brain cells required to understand satire.

:thumbsup:

[shance]

127. Women, in this case African American women, are more "expendable".

That is why we have to learn to value other women and ourselves to raise the level of consciousness that is being attacked by Neanderthals yet again. We need to build more appreciation for each other, and for those who aren't white, racist, privileged, insulated males like Tom Delay and his friends, who have this nasty little habit destroying everything on the planet and making everyone else clean it up.

[Bake]

129. So Jon Stewart's a NEANDERTHAL now?

Two words: LIGHTEN UP.

Geez, sometimes this place ....

Bake

[shance]

138. Are you a woman? An African American woman?

Jon Stewart is not a Neanderthal, but he is a stupid, thoughtless guy sometimes.

You know, when good people who are trying to do the right thing are being attacked unfairly, I'll defend them, no matter who they are. I think its everyones responsibility to help those who are being assaulted by bigger, more aggressive, just meaner individuals. When I mention the bigger meaner variety, I mean those namely in certain positions of power in Washington. I don't mean Hollywood. Thank God for the educated, informed caring individuals that use Hollywood as a messenger when they can.

You know, sometimes its not real funny being a woman.

With that said sometimes its not real funny being a man, particularly right now with young kids being sent to die in Iraq and Afghanistan when they have their whole lives ahead of them, or so they did.

Lightening up to make others comfortable Baker I don't think is the best remedy for anyone. Seems to me the best remedy is to try and empathize, support and defend those that are being treated unfairly in whatever way we can.

[Beelzebud]

146. So the Capitol Hill police are all racists, and Stewart is a sexist?

Please...

[blondeatlast]

158. Kill me now if I have to survive this administration without caustic humor

Okay--how do I sign up for this humor removing program?

Sounds like Scientology--oops, sorry, I made a wee little joke there.

FWIW, I am a woman and dammit, I laugh at other women. Women like Madeline Kahn, Bette Davis, Wanda Sykes, Samantha Bee...

[ShortnFiery]

164. You are not alone ... remember just because jon said it and

the thought of McKinney punching a cop is kindof funny because of her feisty character, we need not turn into right wing operatives and help them destroy her. :-)

[mondo joe]

130. Yeah - how many times have you said that when Condaleeza Rice

gets mocked on the Daily Show?

[shance]

133. Condoleeza is guilty of war crimes. Cynthia McKinney is not guilty

of anything other than telling the truth.

[NYCGirl]

134. War crimes are tough fodder for comedy. (Allegedly) Bashing a cop with

your cell phone is.

[mondo joe]

136. Well now you've changed your standard. Is it being black and female,

or is it guilt of crime?

Are you now saying we can only make jokes about criminals?

Lastly, since neither has been convicted of any crime, they are legally of equal standing, so does Jon Stewart have to get a report from you on who is acceptable to joke about, since you offer no consistent standard other than your feeling?

[shance]

142. Okay ,fair enough. But why not any jokes on the cops who are acting

like their afraid of a woman when they are armed like a fortress themselves. Gimme a breeeeeeeeak.

There is something to be said about the whole dishonesty of this deal of cops being ASSAULTED by Cynthia McKinney that is absolutely comical in and of itself.

Granted shes a strong woman but COME ON!

[mondo joe]

148. I don't know which ones are afraid of a woman, do you?

Isn't part of being a public figure opening yourself to scrutiny AND jokes?

If you ask me, the whole thing is ridiculously out of proportion. Which makes it perfect grist foor the Daily Show humor mill.

[shance]

163. Now that I totally agree with. Its the most ludicrous waste of time

imaginable.

Absolutely*

[JohnKleeb]

128. Three words

He's a comedian.

[sendero]

131. Do you think..

... only Republicans do stupid shit? Nobody has a monopoly on foolishness and a comedian's job is to get everybody.

I have no opinion as to the McKinney incident, but I can easily see it being made fun of.

[IselaB]

135. If you guys don't want Jon Stewart making fun of McKinney

Call her office and tell her to stop holding press conferences and going on news shows and talking like an idiot.

I think the whole point of the Daily Show is that they make fun of politicians and journalists who deserve to be made fun of, regardless of party or ideology. It says a lot that such a show spends most of its time making fun of Republicans and conservatives and FOX News - it isn't because Stewart is exclusively targeting them, but rather because they are the most consistently worthy of mockery. But if a Democrat or liberal starts talking stupid, I expect Stewart to be right there ready to rip into them. That's what he does and that doesn't bother me at all.

[Ian David]

141. When Jon Stewart starts making TV commercials with talking M&Ms...

then we'll start to worry.

[dogday]

143. How can she stop holding press conferences

when the M$M would rather talk about her than DeLay... This is a smoke and mirrors issue spun to make it look like Cynthia is worse than DeLay and I am not buying it... Sure takes the heat off of DeLay while his aides and Abramhoff are singing like birdies.....

[Ian David]

147. She should have just gotten drunk and shot the cop in the face...

claimed she thought he was a quail or something.

Then, she could have gone home for 16 hours before talking to the cops.

We would have avoided all this unpleasentness.

[dogday]

155. I keep wondering Where Are The Witnesses To This?

I heard on M$NBC that a Democrat is testifying tomorrow who saw the incident... I mean they make it sound like that is the only witness.. They are not even sure she hit or did anything....

[Ian David]

160. Here's a still image from the surveillance camera

[dogday]

162. bwa-hahahahahahahahahahahah

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[blondeatlast]

159. Floor, meet blondeatlast.

I fell out of my chair on that one.

:toast:

[WilliamPitt]

144. BREACH OF PURITY ALERT - - BREACH OF PURITY ALERT

CALL OUT THE HOLIER-THAN-THOU BRIGADES

OPPORTUNITY TO CRITICIZE HAS ARRIVED

GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO

[against all enemies]

149. He makes fun of idiots and hypocrites, whether they are D or R.

Its just these days most idiots and hypocrites are Republican.

[Ignacio Upton]

150. Two possibilties

1. He's being pressured to provide "balance" when there is no need for it. Just like when he brought up the "Democrats took Abramoff money too" line back in January and February.

2. The incident, even if it hasn't been proven, does sound funny on face value, and if I were a comedian I would consder exploiting it.

[debbierlus]

156. Stewart is a tired act.

He is a comedian. He does the SAME shtick over & over & over.

And, he will pounce on the dems just like the rethugs.

I got bored with him a couple years ago.

How many times can he adjust his tie and roll his eyes?

EVERY routine is the same.

It was funny.

For a while.

[Ian David]

161. Why do you hate freedom? n/t

[ShortnFiery]

165. Yes, The Cobert Report kicks butt!

The funniest thing about his show is that the Right Wing Neo-Cons are so in love with themselves that they think "the character" played is the real deal.

I call it a new entry for the DSM-IV ... I give you - The Archie Bunker Syndrome

Way back in the days of the Vietnam War Era, "All in the Family" was a big hit on TV. Some of my happiest moments were when the insane branch of the conservative republicans FINALLY figured out that, the person, Carroll O'Connor, was actually a flaming liberal.

I kid you not they were devastated! Like a motherless child. Wa aaa! LOL

Yep, The Cobert Report accomplishes the same goal: Making fun of the Right Wing Republicans with their full cooperation. Priceless?

[liberalpress]

168. I Love you guys! I love this thread!

Second Grade Rocks!

[ShortnFiery]

169. Hey, call me a Pre-Teen. I'm in Junior High, ya know? LOL n/t.

[Ian David]

180. What were we talking about again? n/t

[Maat]

170. You're right ..

sometimes those rightwingers do not appear to get the joke.

[Ian David]

179. It could also be a case of Andrew Dice Clay Syndrome

Clay's character was supposed to be a ridiculous idiot.

Instead, people took him at face value, without a sense of irony.

That's why he stopped performing at the height of his career.

Even that stupid smoking his cigarette by putting his arm over the top of his head couldn't make the stupid Freepers realize that he was playing a character that was meant to be ridiculed-- not emulated.

[alphadog]

189. Um...kinda like the person who started this thread, though...

Neither side has a monopoly on DUMB.

[Ava]

171. come on now.

we have to be able to see the humor in jokes about our own party. this is like getting made over a clinton joke.

"the daily show" isn't a real news program. how about we get upset over one of them?

[Moderately Moderate]

173. You're blowing it out of proportion

Calm down... just because he has a balanced view doesn't make him a Republican. Anyways, I suppose you never saw him on the Tonight Show when he spoke his mind without too much comedy involved.

[zulchzulu]

174. He's done HOURS of DeLay stories...McKinney is fair game...

I don't care who you think you are...you never hit a cop without some repercussions. Not having been there, I can only suspect that she overreacted...I don't care what race any of the people involved are...you don't hit a frickin' cop unless you want trouble.

As for Jon, he is correct 99% of the time...and he's also a comedian that doesn't have to live up to Edward R. Murrow standards.

[ShortnFiery]

175. "you don't hit a frickin' cop"

Here we go again ... :(

[mduffy31]

176. I just saw a montage...

...of her recent media appearances. Jon was right, she is batshit crazy. The new line is "much ado about a hairdo," alliteration aside it is a pretty weak argument.

[bridgit]

178. ppfftt, on THIS issue!?!? she's a bat-shit krazy diva drama queen...

[Ian David]

181. Comment on a Logcabin Republican blog...

Zsa Zsa McKinney
Posted by GayPatriotWest at 11:13 pm - April 5, 2006.
Filed under: Annoying Celebrities

After posting my last piece, I just had to say that. That’s all for now.

UPDATE: OK, Maybe that’s not all for now. Too bad Zsa Zsa didn’t use the Driving While Hungarian defense.

UP-UPDATE: Looks like someone named Mantis was the first to call her the Georgia Congresswoman Zsa Zsa McKinney in a comment to Wizbang on March 31, 2006 @ 12:51. (I googled “Zsa Zsa McKinney” after posting this.) Drat! And I thought I was the first. Kudos, Mantis!

UP-UP-UPDATE: Looks like I was a little hasty, as Treebeard might say. Dan S. also called her Zsa Zsa McKinney on March 31 while conservativeman (anonymous) used that nickname on March 30 @ 12:22 PM. Laurence Simon, however, seems to have beaten him by 22 minutes. Kudos, Laurence!

1 Comment »

1.

Maybe she should have just gotten drunk and shot him in the face.

Said she thought he was a quail.

She would have had 16 hours to go home and sober-up before anyone even questioned her about it.

Comment by Ian — April 6, 2006 @ 7:05 am - April 6, 2006
http://tinyurl.com/hp8dd

[Ian David]

182. They're just attacking her because she's a christian.

There's a war on christians, remember?

Anyway, as long as it keeps the GOP controlled congress from voting on something important, I say let them investigate her.

And after that, let's spend a few days investigating steroids in baseball.

Maybe they won't get around to gay marriage, abortion, tax cuts for the rich, immigration and other things with a real-world impact before the midterm elections.

Let's keep the GOP-controlled congress with the GOP super-majority wrapped-up in silly crap as much as we can.

Maybe another Democrat can assault someone? Santorum could use a good kick in the crotch. Or maybe someone could put a poisoned pubic hair in Justice Thomas' Coke? (That's a satirical riff).

But that's not the point.

Regardless of the color of her skin or her political party, or even her level of sanity, when a woman smacks a cop in the face it's good fodder for a comedy show.

[bridgit]

183. anything can happen when weasels are cornered & going down hard...

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/reprints/122805_weisma...

'"Technology and the use of technology are going to be the most important tools we have in securing a range of areas, from the aviation domain to trucking to cargo shipping," said Brian J. Doyle, deputy press secretary for the Homeland Security department in Washington.'

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=nation_world&...

'Brian J. Doyle, 55, who is the fourth-ranking official in the department's public affairs office, was expected to be placed on administrative leave Wednesday.

"He said he would get on the computer when he got home from work so we knew he would be on," Rodgers said. "When (police) went to his door, he was on the computer in the middle of a conversation with the girl."'

[Ian David]

185. Is Brian Doyle any relation to right-wing talkshow host Jerry Doyle?

http://www.space.com/sciencefiction/tv/jerry_doyle_ca_house_001023.html

Just wondering.

[bridgit]

188. i dunno, but i hear'ya, when i was searching the names came up...

nearly side by side, can't say for sure though :shrug: but to suggest that i'll bet a whole lot of shit shakes out of that sack before it's over x(

[MrPrax]

184. McKinney comments? sheesh...

Glad no one mentioned the idiotic Iranian sabre-rattling the night before...I just turned it off.

He's missing more often than hitting...most of those guys are 'flash in the pan'...they get hot, 'hype machine' kicks in, it becomes hip and then burns out...

[NYCGirl]

186. Iranian saber-rattling. Now there's GREAT COMEDY material!

I have no idea how the writers missed it.
:eyes: