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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:48 AM
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Insurgents "prepared to host U.S. bases. We share common enemies"?
http://pleonexiabeyondhubris.blogspot.com/2006/04/opening-for-american-victory-in-iraq.html

Michael Ware of Time Mag interviewed insurgent groups. Told Wolf Blitzer "They want largely a secular society. They've said they're prepared to host U.S. bases, akin to Germany and Japan. Let's normalize relations. We share common enemies, Iran and al Qaeda. How did we end up on the wrong side of this?"
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:52 AM
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1. I keep waiting for US to turn back to the sunnis to establish order.
I dont see how the alliance with the Shiites can possibly last and the US must be really jonesing for a compliant regime right now.
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:54 AM
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2. Just the growing pains of the emerging sucessor to the MSM...
...the new net-centric Fourth Estate.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 02:10 AM
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3. It all comes back to the way it was with Saddam.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 02:15 AM
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4. This quote...

"The Arab world is worried about Iran as well. The AP just reported today that diplomats from Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and Turkey have been meeting in secret over the last few weeks to prepare for any civil upheaval in Iraq."


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What kind of "civil upheaval" are they talking about? When I hear that, I think coup, or mass riots....
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 02:51 AM
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5. An all out civil war
An all out civil war (as aposed to the low grade current)between the Sunni and Shia factions that will be taken advantage of by Iran and Al-Qaeda.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 02:56 AM
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6. OK so how much DOD money did this guy get to say this
that's probably the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a week or so.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:45 AM
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7. I watched Michael Ware. He has been in the desert too long.
The man was talking bullshit.
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 06:55 AM
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9. Ware has said some important things in the past
including how Iraqi soldiers are totally unprepared for
fighting. If he said what is quoted above,
then there may be something there..

Time's Michael Ware, who's spent a significant amount of time inside the insurgency, had some interesting things to say on Frontline. His conclusion:

So in the immediate aftermath of the invasion, most of these guys in the insurgency as a whole ... gave the Americans a chance; they gave them a window. They stood back and watched them ; they went home like they all were told to do. They served either for the Americans, or they left their intelligence headquarters and they went home and they sat and they waited.
And then they started to see what happened, and that's when they started picking up their , and then they started picking up RPKs and then they started picking up RPGs, and then they started picking up surface-to-surface missiles, and then they started making IEDs . Then they started launching complex ambushes. Then they started coordinating with Zarqawi's nascent Al Qaeda organization. There was a moment in time when all of this could have been avoided in so many ways. ...
http://edcone.typepad.com/wordup/2006/03/competence.html
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:43 AM
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10. I have seen his reporting for quite a while now
and I have always respected him. Like I said before I think he has been in the desert too long.
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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 06:45 AM
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8. So now somebodies blog qualifies as late breaking news? n/t
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:06 AM
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11. Nobody else seems to be picking up on this.
I have seen nobody report on this. I got this from transcripts of an interview. I think the fact that Iraqi insurgents would still consider working with US forces, going so far as to allow US military bases, is critical news.

I didn't think that just posting the quote from CNN's transcrips, considering the fact that a word I thought was key (Clausewitzian) was transcribed as "inaudible", would tell the whole story.

I realize that what I think may not interest anybody here, but I think that if their is such an opening, and the Bush administration hasn't F**ked it up yet, that's breaking news.
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