Is masturbation a sin?

[kpete]

Is masturbation a sin?
The Bible and masturbation

Masturbation is perhaps one of the most debated--yet rarely solved--subjects in the church. The views and opinions about masturbation, its effects, and consequences (especially spiritual) have been swirling through the church probably since it first began. This paper is an effort to add another voice to the mass of opinion. In reality, it cannot be clearly said that the act of masturbation is in itself a sin, for the Bible never uses the word, nor does it imply or hint about the act of masturbation. Obviously, the Bible does deal in some depth with sexual immorality, perversions, and the like, but masturbation is never spelled out as belonging to any particular category. So, since Scripture is silent about it, should masturbation be classified as a sin? Or if not, are there ways in which masturbation may be used to the glory of God and the building of His Kingdom of souls?

lots, lots more Biblical Advice at:
http://members.optusnet.com.au/austbua/masturbation-limits.htm

[DuaneBidoux]

1. Your fucking joking, right?

[Goblinmonger]

2. ..

:popcorn:

[skooooo]

3. yes

It makes hair grow on the palms of your hands. DOn't do it!

[rpgamerd00d]

4. It does not! Er, I mean, I heard it doesnt... cause... how would I know?

:D

[Arugula Latte]

31. You probably can't see the hair 'cuz you've gone blind by now!

:evilgrin:

[iamthebandfanman]

39. lol

thats one of Gods pet peeves..hairy palms.
didnt ya know?

[catmandu57]

5. No

Masterbation is a natural form of release.

[Goblinmonger]

6. Author needs to read more

Onanism.

Though I guess if you kept it in a jar or something, it wouldn't be onanism.

[azurnoir]

40. Thought church scholars

came to the conclusion that Onan "spilled his seed" by withdrawal, although I hear some consider that a sin for other reasons:evilgrin:

[Goblinmonger]

52. My understanding is

that any sperm that is "wasted" by not being ejaculated into the womb for the purpose of conception would be considered Onanism or "spilling your seed."

Have you seen the Monty Python skit I reference downthread? It's hilarious.

[azurnoir]

62. Haven't seenthat one

will be looking for it on BBCA

[Goblinmonger]

66. I'm a little off my game today with no coffee this morning

but I think it is on the movie Meaning of Life.

[TlalocW]

7. According to Father Guido Sarducci

When you go to Heaven, you're given $14.50 for each day you lived, and for each sin, you have to pay back a certain amount. Lying may equal $1000.00; adultery may equal $5000.00, etc.

Masturbation is 35 cents.

On edit:
Corrected some figures.

TlalocW

[baldguy]

23. beat me

to it

[MercutioATC]

43. Ahhhh..."paying for your sins"...

...great sketch.

[baby_mouse]

46. la la la tweet tweet tweet

Guys...

It's time.

It's time to start doing something about these fucking weirdos.

[sabra]

8. I will bookmark this thread and check in later :-)

[annabanana]

9. all those baby sperm

Won't SOMEONE think of the children?

[benburch]

10. Since there is no God, there can be no sin.

Easy, no?

[ret5hd]

11. well, according to this guy...

if murder is like a $1,000,000 sin, then masturbation is something like a $.10 sin.

[boobooday]

12. Who will love you if you won't love yourself?

Or, as the church on the corner of my street put it on their marquee:

"whatever thou takest in thy hand, do it with all thy might."

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

17. lol! Or to paraphrase Woody Allen, at least you're having sex with

someone you love. ;-)

[libnnc]

13. it's good for the circulation

so I've heard...
O8)

[FreakinDJ]

14. From my brail keyboard

Let me put my glasses on

I was in the middle of shaving my hairy knuckles.

Now let me see "is masterbation a sin"

[Goblinmonger]

15. Don't forget what Monty Python told us

Every Sperm is Sacred

[obreaslan]

59. Here are the lyrics for the true believers....

DAD:
There are Jews in the world.
There are Buddhists.
There are Hindus and Mormons, and then
There are those that follow Mohammed, but
I've never been one of them.

I'm a Roman Catholic,
And have been since before I was born,
And the one thing they say about Catholics is:
They'll take you as soon as you're warm.

You don't have to be a six-footer.
You don't have to have a great brain.
You don't have to have any clothes on. You're
A Catholic the moment Dad came,

Because...

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

GIRL:
Let the heathen spill theirs
On the dusty ground.
God shall make them pay for
Each sperm that can't be found.

CHILDREN:
Every sperm is wanted.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your neighborhood.

MUM:
Hindu, Taoist, Mormon,
Spill theirs just anywhere,
But God loves those who treat their
Semen with more care.

MEN:
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
WOMEN:
If a sperm is wasted,...
CHILDREN:
...God get quite irate.

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed...
...In your neighborhood!

CHILDREN:
Every sperm is useful.
Every sperm is fine.
God needs everybody's.

Mine!

And mine!

And mine!

NUN:
Let the Pagan spill theirs
O'er mountain, hill, and plain.
HOLY STATUES:
God shall strike them down for
Each sperm that's spilt in vain.

EVERYONE:
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your neighborhood.

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite iraaaaaate!

[Jim Warren]

16. Only if it's not consensual n/t

[zanne]

54. LOL! That's cute. nt

[Jade Fox]

18. Only if you're a Democrat.

[monarch]

19. Not only is it a sin but

it should also be a crime according to our esteemed Justice Scalia http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=000&invol=02-102

[baby_mouse]

49. Go play with yourself, Scalia.

Better still, go play with the traffic.

[racaulk]

20. Oh well, there's something else I'll be burning in hell for!

:evilgrin:

[baldguy]

21. "Yes masturbation is a sin. But, its a cheap sin. About 35 cents."

Thank you for your wisdom, Father Guido Sarducci

[EVDebs]

22. Ann Landers famous endorsment Oct. 24, 1993 column....

""...As an example, in an October 24, 1993 column, she endorsed masturbation or mutual masturbation as a safe, realistic alternative to abstinence for everyone from teens to the elderly.""

from obit of Ann Landers at
www.kaos2000.net/archives/frontpage/annlanders.html

[phusion]

32. Don't forget Jocelyn Elders

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jocelyn_Elders

In 1994, she was invited to speak at a United Nations conference on AIDS. She was asked whether it would be appropriate to promote masturbation as a means of preventing young people from engaging in riskier forms of sexual activity, and she replied, "I think that is part of human sexuality, and perhaps it should be taught." This remark caused great controversy, especially amongst conservative Christian groups and right wing interests in the United States. Under great political pressure President Clinton asked for her resignation.

[SidDithers]

24. All depends on where you are...

when you're doing it :evilgrin:

Sid

[GeorgeGist]

Oh what a relief it is...

masturbating to the fantasy of Jesus loving it. :rofl:

[varun]

25. Repukes attacked Jocely Elders

the Surgeon General during Clinton administration...because she said that masturbation is healthy.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1996/news/9610/09/elders/index.shtml

"...Elders has no regrets about saying masturbation should be part of sex education, though that comment forced her resignation from the Clinton Administration nearly two years ago. The whole incident takes up just three pages in her new autobiography, "From Sharecropper's Daughter To Surgeon General..."


So I guess Repukes dont masturbate?

Oh yes...they molest young boys and girls instead. :grr:

[Ian David]

33. I couldn't masturbate for weeks after hearing Elders talk about it

Okay, for days.

Fine.

Hours.

[Ian David]

26. James Dobson says boys should masturbate and shower with their dad

I'm not sure if he thinks they should do both at the same time.

There was also some other fundie guy who said that it's okay to masturbate so long as you're thinking about your wife at the time. Otherwise, you're committing adultery in your heart.

He didn't say if you're allowed to masturbate while picturing your wife with another woman.

[anarch]

27. mmm hmm

[bee]

50. LMAO!!! you made coffee come out my nose.

:spray:

[im10ashus]

28. Only if you do it wrong. n/t

[On the Road]

29. The Bible May Not be Completely Silent on the Subject

The letter of Jude cautions: "On some have mercy but with fear, loathing even the garment spottet by the flesh." Although the context is not clear, it's often thought to be a reference to self-administered semen stains.

I would, though, be very interested in seeing how "masturbation may be used to the glory of God."

[Ian David]

35. You know what's funny?

Going to a disco with a semen stain on your clothes.

They glow under the black lights.







I've been told.

[canadianbeaver]

30. Well I need to pay either $10 or $1 or maybe just 35 cents....

I hope I have the change when I die!

[formercia]

34. Only if you're rich

When I was a boy
we were so poor
if I didn't wake up with an erection
I had nothing to play with all day.

[SidDithers]

36. Betty Bowers is a genius...

Sid

Edit: forgot link http://www.bettybowers.com

[BlooInBloo]

37. Follow the Way Of The Master or burn!

http://www.wayofthemaster.com/

:rofl:

[deutsey]

38. Mark Twain on "onanism"

http://www.rotten.com/library/sex/masturbation/mark-twain/


SNIP

So, in concluding, I say, "If you must gamble your lives sexually, don't play a lone hand too much." When you feel a revolutionary uprising in your system, get your Vendome Column down some other way--don't jerk it down.

[Jose Diablo]

41. Master Bates, wasn't he that guy in that Hitchcock movie? n/t

[LostinVA]

42. Nope -- the story of Onan has nothing to do with "real" masturbation

He didn't fulfill his lawful duties to his widowed sister-in-law, by refusing to impregnate her as the law demanded, and instead engaging in coitus interruptus. That isn't the same as masturbation.

[baby_mouse]

44. Is "sin" any kind of issue?

Who cares?

[BiggJawn]

45. Only if Uncle Fester catches you...

"Masturbate for the Glory of GAWD"...Oh, boy, yogurt and blueberries all over my screen!

[MrPrax]

56. That's him!!

Uncle Fester!! ROLF...that's who he looks like...

Yeah he does look pretty sinister that pix...kinda like the alcoholic unmarried uncle people at family gatherings keep an eye on...

[BiggJawn]

60. I've seen worse pix of him, just couldn't find one.

Seen pix of him with huge bags under his eyes and a lecherous little grin on his impish face.

Yeah, I think that name fits better than "Eggs".

[TornadoTN]

65. Spraying Jesus Batter all over the place!

All for the glory of Fester, of course.

[michreject]

47. What did you write?

I'm having a problem seeing it.:evilgrin:

[leesa]

48. The rules of religious texts were based on SOCIAL needs...they needed

babies born. They had high infant mortality and their tribes/clans/groups were in danger of extinction all the time. The prohibitions against homosexuality and "wasting seed" with masturbation came from these concerns. It's like the ban against pork in some religions coming from the recognition of trichinosis and other diseases. They had social origins but were written down by the religious folk cause they were the ones who made the rules and who could write. I don't think this stuff is mysterious at all. You want folks to obey these rules, call it the word of an all powerful God, that might work.

[bee]

55. You echo my stance exactly. here here. n/t

[kevinbgoode]

51. It most certainly IS a sin. . .

and you will not only be on a waterslide to hell, but your fingers will turn green and you'll lose your eyesight along the way. Every sperm is sacred, honey. No discharge before marriage, not even over portraits of imagined weeping madonnas.

[Warpy]

53. Everything sexual is a sin, especially for women Men, of course,

are utterly blameless since they're surrounded by female temptresses.

Masturbation is only a biblical sin because once males finally realized there was a connection between sex and childbirth (see the begats for evidence), they naturally felt they were responsible for the whole miracle of new life and that their spooge contained seeds like bean seeds, each containing a tiny, perfect, MALE human being. It then became a terrible sin to spill one's seed on the earth because you were condemning all those perfect little men to death outside the female flowerpot.

The fact that a little less than half the births produced girls has been explained by illness, curses, and witchcraft. Female infants were seen as aberrant, not quite human, animated flowerpots for the planting of future seed.

These were pretty common views in the ancient world and were even expounded upon by Aristotle.

[Cyrano]

57. It's not a sin as long as you don't enjoy yourself.

[OneBlueSky]

58. only if you're REALLY bad at it . . . :) n/t

.

[BiggJawn]

61. Oh-Oh...I have NO SOUL!!!

"All those guys and girls out there screwing around with anyone who will ‘do it’ are giving away little bits of their souls in every sexual encounter they have. No wonder so many sexually promiscuous kids and adults in time end up very wounded, confused and unhappy people."

That explains it, I've fucked my whole soul away! I cast no shadow! I have no reflection! I gave it all away, one squirt at a time!

[TornadoTN]

63. If Masturbation Is Wrong..........

Then I don't want to be right.....

[QC]

64. Wrong forum.

Discussion topics relating to religion that have little or no relation to politics or current events must be posted in the Religion/Theology forum.

[maddezmom]

67. locking

thread has gone a tad off-topic, please feel free to repost in the Religion and Theology forum. :)