John Hannah // Unpopular Essay #78

[H2O Man]

John Hannah / Unpopular Essay # 78

Who is John Hannah? And how important of a role has he played in the Bush2 administration? These are questions that will become important to people interested in the Plame scandal even before Scooter Libby goes to trial -- if in fact he does -- next January. If Jason Leopold's reports on TruthOut are correct, Patrick Fitzgerald may be preparing to ask the new grand jury to return more indictments this spring. As Leopold has been accurate in his reporting on onside information on this case, I think it is worth taking a closer look at Mr. Hanhah.

It is interesting to note that Mr. Hannah has had the ability to keep a low profile. A look through the index of many of the books on the Bush administration shows that he is not found in, for example, Bob Woodward's "Bush at War" or "Plan of Attack"; in James Mann's "Rise of the Vulcans"; Seymour Hersch's "Chain of Command"; Richard Clarke's "Against All Enemies"; Pat Buchanan's "Where the Right Went Wrong"; or David Corn's "The Lies of George W. Bush."

He is found on one page in James Bamford's "A Pretext for War"; one paragraph in Joseph Wilson's "The Politics of Truth"; and one sentence in John Dean's "Worse Than Watergate."

On October 31, 2005, VP Dick Cheney promoted Hannah from the position of principal deputy assistant for national security affairs, to the assistant for national security position vacated by Scooter Libby.( New York Times; 11-1-05) Hannah, who started his career as an expert in Soviet affairs, had come to play an important role in the Office of the Vice President for Middle East affairs, where he worked for Libby. (Bamford; page 369) It was in this context that he became involved in the administration's plans to attack Iraq, and in the Plame scandal.

Mr. Hannah had served in the first President Bush's State Department. (Dean; page 102) He then was employed as the director of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. While at this position, Mr. Hannah would have linkages with AIPAC. He would first come to the Bush2 administration to work for John Bolton. He was soon transfered to work "on loan" for the Office of the Vice President.

At this time, Vice President Cheney was known to rely primarily upon his own network of associates for intelligence. This network was identified by John Dean as being comprised of "fifteen experienced national security experts." (page 102) The four most important among the VP's sources have further been identified as Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Scooter Libby, and Doug Feith. ("Prelude to a Leak"; Newsweek; 10-31-05)

Feith would set up the Office of Special Plans within the Pentagon. This intelligence unit was set up at the same time that Andrew Card organized the White House Iraq Group (WHIG). John Hannah served as VP Cheney's liason to the OSP.

Newsweek has also reported (12-15-05) on a June 2002 memo authored by Iraqi National Congress (INC) lobbyist Enti Fadh Qunbar. This memo lists Mr. Hannah as their "principal point of contact" in the administration. The INC was heavily involved in feeding "intelligence reports" on Saddam's efforts to acquire WMD components, and Iraqi ties to al Qaeda. The memo also mentions William Luti, the former military advisor to Newt Gingrich, who was connected to Bolton before going to work for OSP. The Newsweek report also noted that INC lobbyist Francis Brooke met with Hannah, Luti, and Scooter Libby to pass on intelligence reports.

The fact that the OVP was getting "raw" intelligence, which frequently was not supported by analysts from the normal channels such as the CIA, should have been cause for concern. This seems especially so, in light of reports that Army Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, who was working for the State Department, believed that the OSP's Feith was placing Lukid's interests over this nation's. (TomPaine.com; 2-14-06) Hannah, who was working under Libby, received and passed on information from the INC, the OSP, and other sources outside of the normal channels.

In early 2002, reports concerning an Iraqi attempt to purchase yellow cake uranium from Niger were discussed in the Office of the Vice President. At some point, a CIA briefer was asked to get further information on the situation. This is when Joseph Wilson was sent to Niger, where he confirmed two previous reports that concluded there was no truth to the Niger rumors.

In the following months, more intelligence that was brought to the OSP by the INC, and which did not meet the standards set by the analysts at the CIA, would be included in National Intelligence Estimates. (Libby would testify to the grand jury that his superiors had authorized his sharing information from the classified NIEs with journalists in 2003. This was among the information he shared with reporters such as Judith Miller.)

It seems possible that Mr. Hannah and Mr. Libby were the administration officials who labored to have the infamous "16 words" included in the president's State of the Union address. This would appear likely, considering the role they played in preparing Colin Powell's February '03 address to the United Nations. Bamford reports that Libby had Hannah write the first draft of that address. (page 369) This included the charge that Muhammad Atta had met with Iraqi intelligence in Prague in 2001. When Powell and Wilkerson attempted to get Hannah to confirm sources of this information, Hannah provided articles from the New York Times and Washington Post. (TomPaine; 2-14-06) Then, when Powell took disputed and unsupported information out of his speech, Scooter Libby said, "Don't worry about any of this. We'll get back in what you take out." (Newsweek; 10-31-05)

In his book "The Politics of Truth," and in a Salon interview with Joe Conason, Joseph Wilson told of how members of the WHIG met in VP Cheney's office in March 2003, and decided to do a "work-up" on the former ambassador. They knew his Niger investigation posed a threat to the lies that were used to bring this country to war in Iraq. They began to investigate Wilson, his previous employment history, his life, and his family. This information was passed on to the White House Communications Office, and others. Wilson lists Hannah and David Wurmser as people suspected in leaking Plame's identity to the media, although he notes that they would not have made the decision to do so on their own.

Hannah's attorney, Thomas Green, has told reporters that his client "knew nothing" about the leak, and was not a target of Fitzgerald's probe. He called reports that Hannah was involved "craziness." Yet other sources have said that Fitzgerald likely has a "Mr. X," who may have gone from being a principal target to a cooperating witness in the investigation. (Newsweek; 10-31-05)

UPI had quoted a Justice Department official involved in the case as saying Libby and Hannah were major players in the probe. The official said that FBI investigators had attempted to get Hannah to cooperate by telling him "that he faces a real possibility of doing jail time." (UPI; 2-4-04) The New York Times identified Hannah as being one of the people from the Office of the Vice President who was being questioned. (NYT; 10-19-05) And Hannah was reported to have told friends that he was worried about being "implicated by the investigation, according to two U.S. officials." (Washington Post; 10-20-05)

(In August, 2004, it was reported on the "Plame Threads" on the Democratic Underground that Hannah had been "turned" by Patrick Fitzgerald. In October, 2005, RawStory's Larisa Alexandrovna broke more on the extent that Hannah was cooperating with the investigation. Since then, Jason Leopold has done a fantastic job expanding on Alexandrovna's work.)

[Catherine Vincent]

1. I'm banking on a media advisory alert soon....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=847942&mesg_id=849393

[notadmblnd]

2. My god, the wheels of justice grind painfully slow.

nt

[H2O Man]

3. I sometimes wish

the case would move forward as rapidly as my posts sink here.

[Catherine Vincent]

8. Your posts sink?

They do not. You are much appreciated here!

[notadmblnd]

15. Lots of people read them

for me, you just say it all so clearly and logically that there's nothing for me to add. The little comments I do post are so I can keep track of the material in my journal for easy reference because I can never seem to find threads that I bookmark.

So thank you for posting these essays.

[stop the bleeding]

4. Thanks H2O Man for keeping the major leaguers in the spotlight

I wonder if Fitz is meeting the GJ today or on Friday? I know he is busy with the Chicago cases, but I would think that if he is pressing forward with requests for indictments on Rover and Hadley then it would have to be soon, like this week or next.




Must crush Darth Cheney

[Pathwalker]

5. Kicking another wonder ful post by H2O man.

Thanks, H2O man - fabulous, as always!

:kick:

[LisaLynne]

6. I keep being struck with how many of these unelected ...

people there are bouncing around, influencing our world, and yet, until I became obsessed with politics over the past 6 years, I had never realized this and I certainly didn't know who they were. The more I think about it, the less like a democracy our government seems.

Edited to add: Another post chock-full of info by H2Oman. :thumbsup:

[robertpaulsen]

7. Thanks H2O Man. I wonder why Cheney keeps Hannah so close?

I remember we thought Fitz flipped Hannah back in 2004. So why did Cheney have him (and Addington) replace Libby? I doubt Fitz would cut a deal with Hannah to nail Libby but leave Cheney untouched.

Perhaps Cheney keeps Hannah close so that he will know when to have his "heart attack" when Fitz has him in the crosshairs.

[H2O Man]

9. I think the first

person I remember saying, "I'd rather have him inside pissing out, than outside pissing in," was LBJ. It's a version of "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer."

[Patsy Stone]

10. K&R

Now would you do one on Marc Grossman? I didn't have him in the "leaker pool":

http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/libby2.htm

<snip>

The defense has also identified another former State Department official as the possible leaker. Then-Undersecretary of State Marc Grossman was alleged to have told Mr. Libby of Mrs. Plame's employment at the CIA a month before her identity was leaked.

"If Mr. Armitage or another State Department official was in fact the primary source for Mr. Novak's article, Mr. Grossman's testimony may be colored by either his personal relationship with Mr. Armitage or his concern for the institutional concerns of the State Department," the defense said.

The defense team plans to subpoena Mr. Powell, Mr. Armitage, Mr. Grossman and Karl Rove. Mr. Rove, deputy White House chief of staff, has been under investigation in connection with the leak. National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley has also been targeted by the defense.

<snip>

How many sources are we talking about? I know it was a coordinated effort, but who is the most culpable? Novak's source? Libby's source? Woodward's source? (provided they are different)

[H2O Man]

11. Mr. Grossman

is on my short list, along with Ari F and David W.

[Me.]

19. Card?

After all he organized WHIG. Looking forward to the one on Ari.

[Patsy Stone]

20. And that's an ugly little list too. :)

Thanks! :hi:

[stop the bleeding]

30. Grossman is a funny one - he did have access to Plame's status

June 10, 2003: Undersecretary of State Marc Grossman asks the Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR) for a briefing on the Niger uranium issue, and specifically the State Department's opposition to the continuing White House view that Iraq had tried to buy yellow cake. The resulting memo is dated the same day, and drawn from notes on the February 19 meeting at the CIA on the Wilson mission and other sources. Befitting the sensitivity of the information, the memo is classified "Top Secret," and contains in one paragraph, separately marked '(S/NF)" for "Secret/No dissemination to foreign governments or intelligence agencies, " two sentences describing in passing Valerie "Wilson's" identity as a CIA operative and her role in the inception of the Wilson trip to Niger. This June 10 memo reportedly does not use her maiden name Plame.

June 12, 2003: The Washington Post reports that an unnamed "former US ambassador" was sent to Niger to look into the uranium issue and found no evidence of any Iraqi purchase.

At the State Department, Deputy Secretary Richard Armitage asks INR to prepare a memorandum on the background of what the Post is reporting, and INR sends to Armitage that same day a copy of the June 10 memo to Grossman. The memo is also sent to Undersecretary for Arms Control and International Security (and future UN Ambassador-designate) John Bolton.


http://www.counterpunch.org/morris07272005.html

[Patsy Stone]

35. Another invisible player

hiding in plain (Plame?) sight.

http://www.antiwar.com/deliso/?articleid=8137

<snip>

Interestingly enough, at the same time Feith and Perle were greasing Turkish palms and Grossman was presiding over in Ankara, the CIA's Brewster-Jennings network and Valerie Plame were focusing on nuclear proliferation in Turkey. This scrutiny led them to trace private citizens in America as well as lobby groups like the American-Turkish Council – which is precisely where Plame met future husband Joseph Wilson, while "on duty" at a 1997 reception held by then-Turkish ambassador to the U.S. Nuzhet Kandemir.

<snip>

The article also stated that Grossman "wanted the letter (classified 'secret') as background for a meeting at the White House where the discussion was focused on then growing criticism of Bush's inclusion in his January State of the Union speech of the allegation that Hussein had been seeking uranium from Niger." Grossman seems to have been regarded as suitable by Cheney et al. for finding out what the war party wanted to know about Joe Wilson.

The Grossman memo laid out the reasons why the State Department's INR had found the Niger intel not credible. It also described "a meeting at the CIA in February 2002, attended by another INR analyst , where Plame introduced her husband as the person who was to go to Niger."

These disclosures indicate two things: one, that a covert channel of information through the CIA, State Department, and White House existed; and two, that Grossman definitely was involved throughout, probably enlisting the help of Fleitz and/or Wurmser in expediting the process.

<snip>

[zippy890]

12. kick

interesting

[Me.]

13. Hannah Out Of The Shadows

You're quite right about there being scant info on Hannah which is why I'm thrilled to see your essay. Searched the web for info on him last year and found that he is almost invisible.

[H2O Man]

17. That's an art.

It is difficult to remain invisible in that way. Libby attempted to be one of the invisible forces, as you will recall, and became angry when he though Armitage was the source of information for an article about him. Steve Rosen, the (ex) AIPAC fellow involved in the other spy scandal, had a favorite saying about being unseen: "A lobby is like a night flower: it thrives in the dark, and it dries in the sun." (The New Yorker; 6-27-05)

In 2004, I remember discussing Hannah with a talented researcher who used to participate on DU discussions. I suggested that he see how much he could find out about Hannah. He was amazed at how secretive the guy is.

[Me.]

21. Am I Wrong In Thinking

that like Woodward, Hannah had past associations with naval intelligence?

[H2O Man]

22. Interesting question.

Have you found any information on John's formative years?

[Me.]

23. Bupkus

Though haven't looked recently. Seem to remember from last year that he was a naval officer, but not sure on that.

[H2O Man]

24. Perhaps

you could look for a source of information connecting Mr. Hannah to the navy.

[H2O Man]

25. PS:

You may wish to consider Luti.

[seemslikeadream]

27. a bit on Hannah

since there isn't much out there, don't know if anything new, a bit from Madsen

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/Jul%20archives.htm

July 17-18-19, 2005 -- ROVEGATE -- Appearing on Meet the Press this morning, former Clinton White House Chief of Staff John Podesta gave some insights into Karl Rove's job as Deputy Chief of Staff in the Bush White House. Podesta said that Rove coordinates the activities of two major national security bodies -- the National Security Council (NSC) and the Homeland Security Council (HSC). One of the White House staffers who was reportedly "flipped" as a cooperating witness by special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, Vice President Cheney's Principal Deputy Assistant for National Security John P. Hannah, has also been mentioned as a probable source of information on CIA covert agent Valerie Plame Wilson and her clandestine job in the CIA. Hannah reportedly told the prosecutor about what he knew about Scooter Libby's own role in the outing of Plame to the media. The editor made a July 18 morning call to the White House Press Office concerning Hannah's background -- information on Hannah is pending -- but the atmosphere at the White House is clearly in the "crisis mode" category. Note: The Vice President's Press Secretary did not respond to our inquiry about John Hannah as of close of business on July 18. What is known about Hannah is that before he took his present position with Cheney's staff as chief foreign policy, national security and Middle East adviser, he was a Fellow at the neo-con and pro-Likud Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP). In the first Bush administration, Hannah was with the Policy Planning Staff at the State Department and was known as a hawk in negotiating with Mikhail Gorbachev's glasnost and perestroika-reformed Soviet Union. In 1996, Clinton Secretary of State Warren Christopher praised Hannah in a speech to WINEP. Christopher said, "The Institute has been a reservoir for talent as well. Any organization that could help cultivate the likes of Martin Indyk, Dennis Ross, and John Hannah has got to be doing something right. Sometimes I think that the State Department owes the Institute a finder's fee."

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
Hannah has been linked to a discredited Iraqi defector tied to Ahmad Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress (INC) who fed bogus intelligence on Iraqi WMDs to the Vice President's office and the Pentagon. The CIA determined that the INC defector was a liar. Hannah was the chief interlocutor for the bogus intelligence in Cheney's office while then-Undersecretary of Defense for Policy and Plans Douglas Feith is believed to have served as the conduit at Defense. The bogus intelligence was transmitted via a Pentagon-funded program called the Information Collection Program. The program was used by the INC to channel bogus intelligence to the intelligence services of the United States, Britain, France, Italy, Spain, Italy, Sweden, Germany, and Denmark.

[H2O Man]

28. Thank you.

I'm always happy to see your contributions to discussions.

[stop the bleeding]

29. Great job SLaD, notice the dates - 5 months before the Libby indictement

very interesting

Lets see what else we can find looking under some more rocks.....

[Me.]

32. Bits & Bobs On Hannah

But not much we don't know and nothing about him before B***1. There is a reference to Luti being retired naval, so what I'm wondering is if perhaps Luti was Felt to Hannah's Woodward?

“Hannah has an interesting background. In the early 1990s, he served as head of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), a think tank associated with the American Israel Political Action Committee (AIPAC). As Middle East scholar Juan Cole pointed out, Hannah was a key figure in the intelligence manipulation effort that legitimized phony "evidence" of Iraq's WMD cooked up by Chalabi. Hannah, like the other aspens in the grove, turned with the rest of the cluster when it came to U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East:

"The WINEP pro-Likud network, which includes Paul Wolfowitz and Doug Feith in the Pentagon as well as Libby and Hannah at Cheney's office, has virtually dictated Bush administration Middle East policy. Wilson's debunking of one of its central claims might well have led Cheney to fire Hannah or to disregard his opinion. The WINEP crowd takes no prisoners and is very determined, over decades, to get its way. (Josh Marshall notes that they are already trying to protect Hannah with denials he could possibly have been involved, presumably meaning that they would be willing to throw Libby to the dogs.) Wilson had to be punished, from their point of view, and if possible marginalized, to protect Hannah's position."

Hannah may have thrown Libby to the dogs, just to save his own skin. This wouldn't be any more surprising than the actions of former Pentagon analyst Larry Franklin, who will plead guilty to spying for Israel in return for leniency in sentencing – and for testifying against his handlers, Steve Rosen, who for 20 years served as AIPAC's foreign policy director, and Keith Weissman, AIPAC's top Iran specialist. Rosen and Weissman pumped Franklin for classified information and handed it over to Israeli "diplomats" stationed in Washington. The trial is scheduled for January.

While Hannah, the former director of AIPAC's thinktank, was deeply involved in exposing a vitally important U.S. intelligence asset – Plame worked undercover in the CIA's WMD proliferation unit – AIPAC officials Rosen and Weissman were sneaking around Washington, meeting Franklin in train stations, and handing over U.S. secrets to Israeli spies.”

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=7490

“During the Clinton administration, Hannah served for two years in the office of Secretary of State Warren Christopher.

In the private sphere, Hannah has worked as a lawyer in Washington, D.C. and as a research fellow and deputy director at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy , a think tank established by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee in the 1980s. (6”

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/2926



“Main White House contact with Ahmad Chalabi's INC; worked closely with Harold Rhode; senior fellow and deputy director at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a group founded by AIPAC to influence policy-makers. <18>”

William Luti – “Protégé of Newt and aide in 1996, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Near East affairs, ran cell Office of Special Plans, or OSP inside Pentagon with Wolfowitz and Feith, Luti came to the Pentagon from the office of Vice President Cheney, retired Navy captain.”

http://www.holology.com/neocon.html#2

[H2O Man]

34. Hannah, along

with Libby, had a lot at stake that Wilson threatened. Those two, perhaps as much or even more than Cheney and Rice.

[Me.]

37. Washington Institute for Near East Policy

Interesting that Warren Christopher's name pops up here.


Washington Institute for Near East Policy

"WINEP's Board of Advisors includes: Warren Christopher, Lawrence S. Eagleburger. Alexander Haig, Max M. Kampelman, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Samuel W. Lewis, Edward Luttwak, Michael Mandelbaum, Robert McFarlane, Martin Peretz, Richard Perle, James Roche, George P. Shultz, Paul Wolfowitz, R. James Woolsey, and Mortimer Zuckerman. (3) Wolfowitz and Roche resigned from the advisory board when they entered the Bush administration in 2001, although WINEP still proudly lists them.


During the first Bush administration and the Clinton administration, it was the undoubtedly most influential think tank on Middle East policy. Its 1998 report Building for Peace: An American Strategy for the Middle East helped shape the first Bush administration's policy toward the Israel-Palestinian conflict. The report advocated that the incoming administration "resist pressures for a procedural breakthrough until conditions have ripened." Writing for the Middle East Report, Stanford University professor Joel Beinin stated: "Six members of the study group responsible for the report joined the first Bush administration, which adopted this stalemate recipe not to change until change was unavoidable. Hence the U.S. acceded to Israel's refusal to negotiate with the Palestine Liberation Organization despite the PLO's recognition of Israel at the November 1988 session of the Palestine National council." (4)

WINEP followed up its 1988 policy blueprint with its Enduring Partnership report in 1992, which recommended a policy of dual containment to isolate Iran and Iraq. Eleven signatories of the 1992 report joined the Clinton administration, which adopted the dual containment framework. Martin Indyk, formerly of AIPAC and WINEP, joined the administration as Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Near East and South Asian Affairs at the National Security Council. (4)

At the onset of the second Bush administration, WINEP's influence dimmed as neoconservatives at the American Enterprise Institute and Project for the New American Century successfully pushed for a complete break from previous policy frameworks toward the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the Middle East. WINEP, which also had several leading neocons on its board of advisors including Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz, has over the past four years also moved even further to the right and toward the hard-line positions of the Likud party militarists. The institute includes such right-wing Zionists in its ranks as Michael Rubin, Martin Kramer, Daniel Pipes, and Joshua Muravchik. Another new figure at WINEP is Jonathan Schnazer, who was previously a research fellow at Daniel Pipes' Middle East Forum."

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1568

[stop the bleeding]

40. Thanks for the research Me

I am responding to find this in the morning.
:headbang:

[understandinglife]

14. "... although he notes that they would not have made the decision to ...

... do so on their own."

And, as we've discussed at DU several times, it is highly unlikely that ValerieP would have been outed, had not Cheney approved, and even more likely, that Bu$h had to have given the go.

I remain comfortable speculating that the probable endpoint in Mr. Fitzgerald's investigation will be charging Cheney and/or Bu$h, with abuse of power and a variety of statute violations including 18 USC 793, IIPA and National Security Act of 1947, and violaiton of EO12958 for not having enforced it regarding Libby, Rove and others' violations of their SF312s.


If You're pro-Bu$h, You're Anti-America

[understandinglife]

16. Recommended.

forgot to add that ...


Peace.

[Me.]

18. OSP, OVP, NiE, INC, WHIG

EeK!

These essays are a real help in filling in the blanks about the entire cast of characters and what is turning out to be as shabby an attempt at a cover-up as Watergate was.

How did J> Wilson find out such detailed info about what was going on in OVP and WHIG? Who, do you think, was his source?

26. I searched his name John P Hannah

and found reference to article he wrote in NY Times and Wall Street Journal in 1993 titled "How Russia Still Abets Mideast Terror". This is way over my head, but it is fun get a little info on him.

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/index.jsp?section=papers&code=93-D_79

[H2O Man]

31. Thanks.

Interesting article.

[Blue_Tires]

33. ttt n/t

[DemReadingDU]

36. More good info, Thanks!

Recommended!

[splat@14]

38. Great post. As many grand juries as it takes, just get `em. Thx h2oman,

got your blog bookmarked. Your post may "sink" but more read them than you know!
Splat

[Me.]

39. K

[Catrina]

41. Excellent post ~ thank you for putting these facts in perspective

I've read through all the posts here, and my head is spinning. I've been following this story since the beginning, (on another board also). I keep remembering Ledeen I believe, explaining how they would be operating. They would create chaos, confusion. They would lie to the people in order to protect the state. They would leave all of us in the dust trying to figure out what they had been up to, but by then they would have moved on to other endeavors.

Ron Paul brought Ledeen's book to Congress and begged them to read it ~ What's fascinating is that they told us what they intended to do but those who could have stopped them, failed to pay attention, or refused.

Hannah is very interesting, and much more of a player than I had imagined ~

I read today that the Pentagon Spy Case has been delayed again. It is moved up to May ~ I may be wrong, but I always thought that this trial could lead to charges of treason, and may be more important than all the others in terms of serious charges against some of the players in the Plame affair.

I find it incredible that so many unelected think tanks, individuals, foreign interests have so much influence over this country. It seems these entities have more influence than elected officials, many of whom appear to be working for them rather than the people of the US States.

The general public was shocked over the Dubai ports deal. Had the media done its job, they would not have been. When you see all this unfolding, stolen elections make sense. There is no other way they could have gotten this far.

How do we get this country back? :cry: