GREENSPAN: If Your Rig the #s In the Beginning-You Don't Need A Recount

[kpete]

Greenspan replied: “I’ve heard that if you rig the numbers in the beginning, you won’t have to do a recount.”
April 5, 2006, 12:21 pm
Counting Votes

Federal Reserve Board officials are careful not to give the impression that politics influences their decisions — even in closed-door Federal Open Market Committee meetings, since those deliberations now become public after five years. In transcripts released this week from meetings in 2000, there is nary a mention of the bitter election battle that fall between Vice President Al Gore and Texas governor George W. Bush. As the unsettled contest dragged on after Election Day, though, officials couldn’t resist.

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Shortly afterwards, Chicago Fed president Michael Moskow said: “I just want to say that if there is going to be a recount, I would like to speak first because those of us in Chicago know how to handle recounts!”

Greenspan replied: “I’ve heard that if you rig the numbers in the beginning, you won’t have to do a recount.”

Moskow started to answer: “We have many different ways of accomplishing—”

At which point, Greenspan cut him off: “I don’t want to hear any more!” –Greg Ip

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2006/04/05/counting-votes/

[gunsaximbo]

1. Greenspan?

Why would he be commenting on a recount?

[glitch]

2. Wonder who he heard that from?

I do believe the polls were rigged in 2004 too. They just didn't count on the huge Kerry turnout so they didn't rig them enough to match the rigged vote, and thus had to do their midnight adjustment, which tipped everyone off.

[Uncle Joe]

3. I wonder if he was referring to the purging of votes with this comment?

That would certainly qualify as rigging the numbers.

[lostnfound]

7. "rig in the beginning" could be start machines with -1000, +1000 votes

One of the Hursti hacks was like that, wasn't it? And there were numerous instances of voting machines recording negative numbers.

[gasperc]

4. mind blowing especially after my earlier post regarding Delay

Someone posted the nation's article about Delay's goons shutting down the Miami-Dade count.

I pointed out my own research about the stench of ballot stuffing during the recount, guarding Bush's lead during the recount.

Seminole county was the last to report. I did a review of the ballots cast versus the ballots recounted in Seminole county. What I found was that the votes counted in several precincts surged between the counts.

In precinct 28, votes cast during the orginal count was documented at 1015, after the recount, 1444 votes were counted as cast, a 429 vote surge, a 50% error!!!!!!!!!!!! Precinct 36 saw a 78 vote jump, and precinct 98 saw a 43 vote jump. In total, I counted 620 additional votes show to be added to the total vote cast after the first re-count, most precincts varied by one or two votes.

The final tally in Seminole county was 384 additional votes for Bush, and 286 additional votes for Gore. At that time, Bush led by only 229 votes in Florida. After, Seminole was added Bush's total increased to +327 Seminole county added the most votes for Bush, by far, than any other county in Florida second only to Polk county at +198 votes for Bush.
Unfortunately, I didn't discover this "anomoly" until June 2003. I wrote to several news organizations about it but all treated it with a deaf ear, except Greg Palast who replied back with "your right".
KOS found it interesting and replied with "I'll do what I can" but obviously, the issue went nowhere.

HAD BUSH NOT HAD THESE 384 VOTES ADDED TO HIS TOTAL, GORE WOULD HAVE BEEN LEADING AT THE END OF THE FIRST RECOUNT BY 57 VOTES. That would have given our forces a huge pyschological boost!!!!! and aided the efforts in the re-counts in Miami-Dade and elsewhere.

From the Orlando Sentinel, 11/10/2000, "Seminole's lenghty recount differed from most of the state's other counties" A news poster named Linda made the following obervation "Naturally in a county Bush carried almost 2-1 this resulted in a net increase of Bush votes. Now in the republican Seminole county, under the leadership of congressman Dan(sic)(John) Mica(R-FL) acting on the behalf of Bush. The rejected votes were examined and added to the official totals"

There are a total of 133 precints, what are the chances that over 50% of the additional votes would come from one precinct. And one precinct would have a 50% error rate? very, very low. Also note that in Duval county where Bush crushed Gore by an even wider margin gained only +16 votes to Gore's +184votes, hmmmm. And in Ecambia county where Bush won 73,017 to Gore's 40943, Bush lost a net -12 votes after the re-count. I cherried picked two counties here, but trust me you won't find another county that Bush beat Gore big and picked up as many votes as he did IN THE LAST COUNTY TO REPORT, SEMINOLE.

John Mica is currently running unopposed in Florida, this needs to be challenged, this is MUST challenge seat.

In November 2001, 45 countries were named on the US Al Queda watch list, NOT ONE OF THEM WAS NAMED IRAQ

[stop the bleeding]

6. Kick! n/t

[BeFree]

8. Kick

Good work, gasperc.

[stop the bleeding]

5. very interesting - probably heard it from Mrs. Greenspan n/t

[TheBaldyMan]

9. unless the votes are cast in Belorus or Ukraine

but both of those were challenged on the basis of exit-polls that were deemed to be 100% reliable evidence of support for capitalists, unlike the US exit polls that were obviously massaged in favour of liberals.

I thought Greenspan could count!