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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:47 PM
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What A Cheap Stunt Randi Rhodes Pulled
listing repubs charged with sex crimes. She trivializes these crimes by attempting to turn them to partisan use. Party affiliation has nothing to do with sexual perversions or crimes. I feel nothing but contempt for this type of bullshit. This is just the sort of crap I expect from that idiot rush. No wonder I don't like Randi Rhodes. Ugh, just ugh.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:48 PM
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1. if the shoe fits
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:00 PM
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52. or if the foo shits
I have no problem with this.

Republicans fight dirty. It's about time they got a taste of their own medicine.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:48 PM
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2. Well, let's look at the list of Dem Pols that have been charged
with sex crimes. I can assure you it is a much shorter list.

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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:50 PM
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8. It all has to do with wielding power and dominance over others
Certain political parties attract people with these "values". Certain political parties don't.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:49 PM
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3. If it were possible to give equal time to pedophile Dems...
But it's not.

Wo we can call a spade a spade, and call the GOP the party of the American Pedophile.
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:49 PM
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4. Its not cheap when they claim moral superiority
and impeach a president about a blow job :shrug:
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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:53 PM
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Bingo.
"Its not cheap when they claim moral superiority
and impeach a president about a blow job."
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:55 PM
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36. Exactly, they've been rubbing our faces in that family values
garbage for years while fucking everything in sight, including children.

This isn't a cheap stunt, it's a highly appropriate one. We may be tolerant of minor and normal variations in adult sexuality, and they have used this to brand us amoral libertines. We need to rub their faces in the stink of their own souls once in a while.

Good for you, Randi.
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:56 PM
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40. snap - brilliant obeservation. nt.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:59 PM
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Exactly and when they actually label us as the perverts
They sling as much muck at the Democrats as it is with swift-boating of lies... This is truth. If they want to do the same, it is a free country....
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:00 PM
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51. Exactly... It's Making a Point
to Ditto-Head listeners that what they have been hearing about the Left/Dems is most easily applied to pubs.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:11 PM
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61. Yup
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:47 PM
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81. Bingoramaroonieding-a-dong...
It's the morality horse-shite...stupid.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:31 PM
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92. Yahtzee!
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:33 PM
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94. Exactly. Some here are too self-rightious to understand though.
Pity.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:02 PM
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121. My thoughts on this matter also.
:hi:
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:50 PM
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5. I don't know about that
I'd challenge you to come up with a list of Democratic office holders and high-level operatives who've been involved in sex crimes that was half as long as the list of Republicans involved in such things.

Perhaps party affiliation DOES have something to do with it. Authoritarians are notorious for being closet perverts.

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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:54 PM
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29. So are Fascists
Look no further than Italy during WWII.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:50 PM
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6. I think the reason it MAY be appropriate is that the Repubs
are, of course, the party of values. We Democrats don't have or need no stinkin' values, according to the Republicans. Right??
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herbbrown Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:50 PM
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7. You're Right it's partisan horse shit nt.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:51 PM
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14. GOP
Group Of Pedophiles
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herbbrown Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:53 PM
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25. Agree with that too..
We just shouldn't stoop to their levels!
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:02 PM
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54. Oh yes we should, trying to be above it all
has not worked for us in the past... It is time to play hard-ball with the repukes... They can dish it out, but they can't take it.. And another thing, they make up their facts, we have reference for ours.....
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:50 PM
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9. We should never talk about Republican sex crimes?
I am not sure what you are saying. Is that subject verboten?

Don
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:54 PM
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32. There are way too many. I'm no statician but that has to be WAY
outside of the norm.

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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:08 PM
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59. I wish someone would give stats.
I understand the hypocrisy angle, but I think equating political party affiliation with child molestation may be going a bit too far if there are no facts to back up that assertion. I was asked to disprove the assertion on another thread, but it isn't my job to disprove someone else's assertion. It's their job to prove it. (See: science)

Saying there's a link between party affiliation and pedophilia without facts to back it up is not terribly wise. Fundies say there's a link between homosexuality and pedophilia. I'm not prepared to accept that assertion, either. I'm not going to take someone's word for it and the default position is unbelief. If I were still prone to taking things on someone else's authority, I would have never escaped fundamentalism.

Sorry, but my "bullshit" detector is going off and it's very much doubting a link between party affiliation and pedophilia.

If you think it's true and important, prove it.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:58 PM
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45. I have seen been told it is forbidden..... my hands are tied. sorry
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:05 PM
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56. They weren't shy about talking about Clinton's sex "crime". n/t
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 04:05 PM by Fla Dem
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:50 PM
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10. I'm listening to Guns and Butter right now (KPFA)
I rarely listen to Randi.. i'm a hard core progressive, but i hate shilling for anybody and playing these kinds of trash the opponent games.

Isn't there quite enough to critisize (and yes even demonize if necessary)without pandering to trash "journalism"?
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herbbrown Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:52 PM
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20. KPFA in Berkeley
Great station, thanks for the reminder....I'm there!
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herbbrown Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:56 PM
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37. Who is this guy talking about
the 9-11 farce, he's pretty good?
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:13 PM
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64. David Ray Griffin is the one giving the talk..
i'm not sure who you're referring to at this point, you can go to the archive and listen to the show from the begining.. also this is part one, Guns and Butter broadcasts on Wednesdays at 1:oo pm (PST)
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IndyJones Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:50 PM
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11. I agree. Stick with political issues. There are certainly plenty to
talk about.

Sex crimes and political affiliation are not related.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:51 PM
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16. tell that to the GOP who constantly makes values an issue
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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:53 PM
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24. What LSK just said!!!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:52 PM
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22. Tell that to the bible thumping fundies
in the repuke party.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:24 PM
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76. Maybe the Bible thumpers will stay home over it.
Sooner or later, they have to realize The Party is not their friend.

Of course, quite often it's a "thumper" who is busted on the sex crime charge!

Regardless, I'd say it's more than fair game -- it is our DUTY to bring these things to the public eye!! EARLY AND OFTEN!!

Values, MY ASS!!!!!!

Bake
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:50 PM
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12. It's a well known fact among DUers and others who
pay attention that there are WAY too many repukes who have been charged with sex crimes. I see nothing wrong with Randi doing this and I applaud her. It's about time the rest of America knows how truly evil and sick they are.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:58 PM
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88. Democrats Have Become the Party of “Sex, Crime, and Corruption”
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 05:01 PM by Viva_La_Revolution
no, really! The Conservative Voice says so! :rofl:

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/13411.html

I found that by googling "Democrat Sex Crime"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Democrat+sex+crime

then I googled "Republican Sex Crime"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=Republican+sex+crime&btnG=Search


That's all the research I need. :)
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:51 PM
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13. do you know WHY she did that???
Because she was talking about the DHS scandal with Doyle and a freeper called and tried to say it was an isolated incident.

Are you not aware that the Republican party has gotten TONS of votes by claiming to be the party of Moral Values when in reality they are a bunch of hypocrites.

Good for Randi for SPEAKING THE TRUTH. Republicans are NOT the party of VALUES.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:52 PM
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23. That's the point that ought to be emphasised as well as the act itself
no matter who the fuck does it.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:51 PM
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how cheap?
seems like the best they can do with democrats is make up out and out lies (think gary condit, who was pilloried on the front page and exonerated in the fine print in the back of the classified ads) or else blow behavior between condescending adults way out of proportion (see under bill clinton)

how be it randi's fault that so many GOP officials and aides are down right dirty pervs who think they can diddle anybody and anything of any age and get away w. it?
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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:51 PM
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15. GOP = Group Of Pedophiles ??
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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:51 PM
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17. As an incest survivor, I wasn't at all offended by Randi.
It's really pathetic what some of these pathetic criminals with so-called family values have hidden in their closets.
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PublicWrath Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:57 PM
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43. A recent study
reported that incest is much more common in Fundie families compared with society as a whole. As a matter of fact, Christian fundamentalism is second only to paternal drug abuse as a predictor of familial child sexual abuse.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:48 PM
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111. amen, sister!!!!!
and, my experience, it was about control and power--once I was no longer afraid, he couldn't get off on my fear of him!!!!!! There are good people who are Republicans, however, if they're still with this administration, they're damn gullible!!!!! For over five years we have had the morality, family values bullshit shoved down our throats. Some of us knew before the morality propaganda, that it was nothing but PR BS!!!! It's time to call them on their holier than thou BS and knock those who deserve it off of their pedestal!!!! Randi Rhodes had it right!!! She even mentioned the sex scandal ring in the WH during poppy Bush. Nah, nah couldn't happen, could it??? I remember, as I remember the Franklin sex cover-up. Those who don't think some sociopaths don't get off on using their authority and power over the truly weak and vulnerable, just keep your head in the sand!!!!!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:51 PM
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18. GOP
Group Of Pedophiles
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:51 PM
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19. Just a thought....
I completely understand what you are saying. However, the whole perception created by the GOP of the 'party of God', value voters and "moral majority" has painted them into this holier-than-thou persona that needs to be confronted.

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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:52 PM
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21. Culturally conservative GOP prides itself in being the party of morality
and Christian family values.

Randi's exposing their hypocrisy. Again. Why should she pull her punches?
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:53 PM
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26. The Republicans are the very ones who have made sexual
"perversions" a political issue; they wanted Clinton impeached for sex.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:02 AM
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116. Sure did and Flynt took some of THEm down a few pegs

in the process.


Where is Larry Flynt now that we need him again?
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redherring Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:53 PM
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27. LMAO, like Limbaugh doesn't pull cheap stunts
or Sean Hannity or O'Reilly.
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herbbrown Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:58 PM
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46. So now we're trying to imitate Rush?
That'll win votes.....please!
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:59 PM
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49. Limbaugh's cheap stunts are pulled directly from his gargantuan ass -
Randi's list was a collection of proven facts.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:53 PM
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28. No she is right.
The # of perverts, closet queens, S & M freaks, and child abusers in the
republican power structure is amazing. I personally know of a national
Fox news on air talent who is gay yet lives in a cover marriage and talks
about "the gay agenda."

But still "they" trot out Jesus all the time. Hell, Tom Delay daughter sat in
a hot tube as a lobbyist poured Champaign over her.

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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:54 PM
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30. Boring
No matter how you slice it I find Randi is getting very boring day in and day out. She is in love with the sound of her own voice and after the first 15 minutes just repeats and repeats herself ad nauseum. She could be so good if she would give some other people some airtime.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:05 PM
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58. I'd suggest you not listen. n/t
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:54 PM
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31. Silly Post!
Give me a break!

Hats off to Randi!

Anyone remember Clinton being impeached by the GOP over a blowjob?

I pray that there are more Democrats out there with the stones to call a spade a spade and fight using every weapon laid in front of them. Your post is silly!

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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:54 PM
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33. Bologney. A Freeper called her and said the DHS creep was an isolated
incident. She proved him wrong (as she always does) with facts.

For a party that attempts to portray itself as the "family values" party to claim such slime among its members is most definitely worthy of noting and bringing attention to.

If you don't like facts, don't listen.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:55 PM
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34. If she was using that list that's circulating on t/ net it was also STUPID
of her too because about 25% of that list is utter bull, incorrect. She could easily get her ass sued for defemation. pfft. I don't like RR.
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TomPainesBones Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:13 PM
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63. This list?
http://armchairsubversive.com/

Show me that 25% you're talking about.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:14 AM
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119. actually, Randi
was stating sources with each name she read. Most were from newspapers and magazines like Salon.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:55 PM
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35. how exactly does this "trivialize" the sex crimes?
i didn't hear her, but if she was gleefully saying it's wonderful that they committed these crimes because we get partisan advantage out of this, then yes, that would be trivializing it.

but if she was horrified at the crimes and using this as yet another way of showing that banana republicans are mean, rotten criminals, then i don't think that trivializes it at all.


besides, an awful lot of politics is the art of turning molehilles into mountains and vice versa. sometimes a thick skin is needed to stomach it, it ain't always pretty.


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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:56 PM
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38. I have a completely different reaction to it - she was calling the
repugs on their holier-than-thou BS. I was listening to it on the way home with my granddaughter (she is a senior in HS, will graduate in May) and she was completely flabbergasted. We had a 40 minute drive and it seemed like it went on almost the entire trip home. She asked me why we don't hear about this stuff on the news. Wanted to know how repugs can preach and condemn on one hand yet have more than their fair share of perverts and hypocrites?

Go Randi!
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:56 PM
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39. don't you think it a bit odd
that there is such an overwhelming majority of those so charged that ARE Republicans?

I'm not sure it's trivializing anything, I think it's pointing out a correlation in thought patterns.

(Not that I've ever listened to Randi Rhodes....)
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:59 PM
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48. i don't think it's odd
i think they believe their own shit don't stink and that they can quite literally get away w. murder

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:57 PM
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41. Mary K. Laterno's father is a Republican official/politician?
I knew Susan Smith's stepfather was( boy is THAT a creepy story) but I had never heard about Laterno's father.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:48 PM
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110. good starting point to learn about the father of Mary Kay
as well as her brother. He is thick with them too, going all the way back to Iran-Contra.

http://www.spitfirelist.com/f469.html
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aintitfunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:57 PM
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42. Republicans took over control of
the White House, the Senate, the Congress and now the Supreme Court. The 2004 election was allegedly "value" voters. So when known republicans, whether elected or appointed by a republican are caught either with their pants down, it should be shouted out. When they are caught like the DHS asshole today, attempting to molest a child, it should be shouted out.

I don't get Randi Rhodes, so I cannot speak to the manner of which she is handling this. I agree party affiliation has little to do with it, but I do think people with something to hide will hide behind faith, value, virtue etc. All too often they stay well hidden.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:05 PM
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57. you can go to the White Rose Society they archive it all.. LINK>>
http://www.whiterosesociety.com

having been molested as a child, i say shout it from the roof tops ..

why hide it, what sort of agenda is that?? what is the political affiliation of the judges that release pedophiles, and give them reduced or suspended sentences.. of late..find out and shout it !!
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huckfinnifkcuh Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:20 PM
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71. Don't forget about this site either...

www.RandiRhodesArchives.com

This guy takes out all the commercials and b*llsh*t so you get all Randi and no fillers!

He also pulls out the interviews and posts them separately if you just want to hear them!


check it out!

http://www.RandiRhodesArchives.com
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:06 PM
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109. thank you
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400Years Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:57 PM
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44. DOGPILE!!!!!!!!
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:00 PM
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53. republicans
need to be taught a lesson. there's consequences to engaging in sexual acts with minors.

If they did it, they're fair game. Esp when they make religion and morality political issues.

Dems aare the side of truth, and if Randi speaks the truth, the GOP should suffer the consequences of their actions!

GOP = POSP(party of sexual predators)

-85% jimmy
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:16 PM
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69. Sometimes you just gotta!
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:59 PM
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47. I could not disagree with you more for all of the reasons
posted in the above comments.

And, party affiliation does seem to have a lot to do with sexual perversions. Just read through the lists.

In the past I worked in a state senate and got to see the true hypocrisy of all the moralizing and gay bashing repubs. Dems had consensual sex - Repugs used power position for sexual favors from Staff and Pages.

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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:12 PM
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62. It makes sense in a weird way.
It's all about power. Goes right along with disregard for the welfare for others and their own selfishness.
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:59 PM
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50. Out of the Blue? Cheap. Response to puke claim of moral superiority? Fine
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:03 PM
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55. No Republican scandals should be discussed?
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 04:10 PM by FlaGranny
Personally, I think about the kids involved in child slavery/prostition, and the rich men who buy them. There is a history here. 1980s? Same circle of people? Same crimes? Ignoring these crimes and not discussing the very sick, usually wealthy men who patronize these rings and even buy their own kids won't help. I can't remember the details now, but some years ago in South Florida a wealthy gentleman was convicted who had children smuggled illegally into the country for his sexual pleasure. One wonders what he did (before he was caught) with the ones he was done with. One also wonders about the connections such a person has in order to get away with something like that.

Edit: Corrected for poor English usage.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:10 PM
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60. ooh, focusing on republican criminals on a liberal talk show
go figure :eyes:
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:15 PM
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65. Oh blow me!
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 04:21 PM by LuCifer
I am so goddamn TIRED of you people who don't like Randi! WHY DO YOU LISTEN!? Lemme guess, you hate Howard Stern, but you pay $13 a month to listen to him on Sirius, right?! Goddamn, what the hell is going on around here?! Did all the freepertard get DU handle and go on another binge of trying to turn us all against each other?! Sheeeeeesh!

Edit:

Tell a fiend to listen to Randi Rhodes on the following stations, ALL TIMES LOCAL:

INTERNET: http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen.asp (3p-7p ET)
Albany / Hudson / Poughkeepsie, NY: 1020 WZKE NEW!!!
Albuquerque, NM: 1350 KABQ (4p-8p)
Anchorage, AK: 1080 KUDO (12a-2a)
Ann Arbor, MI: 1290 WLBY (6p-10p)
Asheville, NC: 880 WPEK (6p-sunset)
Atlanta, GA: 1690 WWAA (3p-7p)
Barstow / Victor Valley, CA: 1230 KSZL (Noon-4p)
Baton Rouge, LA: 1380 WYNK (5p-sunset)
Binghamton, NY: 1360 WYOS (3p-7p)
Boston, MA: 1430 WXKS (6p-10p)
Brattleboro, VT: 1490 WKVT (3p-7p)
Buffalo, NY: WHLD 1270 LIVE! NEW!!!
Burlington, VT / Plattsburgh, NY: 1390 WVAA
Charlottesville, VA: 1450 WVAX LIVE! NEW!!!
Chicago, IL: 850 WCPT (5p-sunset)
Cincinnati, OH: 1530 WCKY (6p-10p)
Cleveland / Akron, OH: 1520 WJMP (3p-7p)
Columbus, OH: 1230 WPTG (6p-7p/4a-6a)
Corpus Christi, TX: 1150 KCCT
Dallas / Ft. Worth, TX: 910 KXEB
Davenport, IA (aka Quad Cities): 1270 WKBF (2p-3p)
Duluth / Superior, MN: 1490 KQDS
Denver / Boulder, CO: 760 KKZN (4p-8p)
Detroit, MI: 1310 WDTW (6p-10p)
El Paso, TX: 1650 KHRO (2p-6p)
Ely / Hibbing, MN: 1450 WELY
Eugene / Springfield, OR: 1450 KOPT (Noon-4p)
Fresno, CA: 790 KFPT (3p-7p)
Honolulu, HI: 1500 KUMU (8p-11p)
Huntington, WV: 930 WRVC (7p-11p)
Ithaca, NY: 1470 WNYY (3p-7p)
Key West / Key Largo, FL: 1500 WKIZ (3p-7p)
Lafayette, LA: 1490 KEUN (2p-6p)
Los Angeles, CA: 1150 KTLK (3p-7p)
Madison, WI: 92.1 WXXM (2p-6p)
Memphis, TN: 680 WWTQ (2p-6p)
Miami / Ft. Lauderdale, FL: 940 WINZ (6p-10p)
Minneapolis / St. Paul, MN: 950 KTNF (overnights)
Missoula, MT: 105.9 KKNS (6p-8p)
Monterey / Santa Cruz / Salinas, CA: 1340 KOMY (12p-4p)
New Haven, CT: 1300 WAVZ (6p-10p)
New Orleans, LA: 1350 WSMB (7p - 9p)
New York, NY: 1190 WLIB (3p-7p)
Petoskey / Cheboygan, MI: 750 WWKK (2a-6a)
Phoenix, Az: 1480 KPHX (starts April 3!)
Portland, ME: 870 WLVP (3p-7p)
Portland, OR: 620 KPOJ (3p-7p)
Poughkeepsie, NY: 1020 WKZE
Providence, RI: 920 WHJJ (6p-8p)
Reno, NV: 1230 KJFK (4p-8p)
Riverside / San Bernadino, CA: 1050 KCAA (5p-6p)
Rochester, NY: 950 WROC (6:30p-10p)
Sacramento, CA: 1320 KCTC (Noon-4p)
Saint Louis, MO: 1190 KRFT???
San Antonio / Victoria, TX: 103.1 KTXX (2-6 pm)
San Diego, CA: 1360 KLSD (3p-6p)
San Francisco / San Jose, CA: 960 KQKE (3p-7p)
San Luis Obispo, CA: 1340 KYNS (Noon-4p)
Santa Barbara, CA: 1340 KTLK (Noon-4p)
Santa Fe, NM: 1260 KTRC (1p-3p)
Seattle, WA: 1090 KPTK (6p-10p)
Spokane, WA: 1280 KAQQ (3p-7p)
Taos, NM: 1340 KVOT
Washington, DC: 1260 WWRC (6p-9p)
West Palm Beach / Stuart / Boca Raton, FL: 1290 WJNO (3p-6:50p)
Worchester / Framingham, MA: 1200 WKOX (6p-10p)
Youngstown / Warren, OH: 1570 WANR (3p-7p)

More info, go to & bookmark:

http://www.TheRandiRhodesShow.com

http://www.RandiRhodesArchives.com

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:15 PM
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66. I Agree With The Sentiment That Issues Like That Are Not Partisan In
nature at all and should never be reduced to such.
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:15 PM
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67. I say, they have rubbed our faces in that blue dress far to long....
for us to forget that they were the "Moral" majority. And we were the party going straight to hell for our lack thereof. Now the tide has turned the curtain has been raised and lo and behold what has been hushed up is far worse than a blowjob between two consenting adults.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:16 PM
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I took that as educational. Many voters go Repub because of the values.
She was educating any Repub listeners about how value-oriented their party is. I have a friend who voted for * because of values.

Nothing she was doing was for titillation.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:16 PM
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68. THEY MADE IT POLITICAL, not Randi
they ran on FAMILY VALUES after all and Sexual Preferances, so if they are pigs, it should be pointed out....
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:18 PM
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70. Who gives a toss?

The whole lot of them are a bunch of crooks! Take 'em out!
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:21 PM
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72. Yeah, it was. nt
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:21 PM
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73. Nice guys finish last.
I am sick and tired of being nice. Way to go Randi Rhodes!! I love you and I thank you for listing the disgusting perverts of the GOP.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:21 PM
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74. I thought it was dumb too. You could do the same for Democrats if you
looked across the entire country.

Pedophilia knows no political party.

I turned off AAR abuot 3 mins into the droning list.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:22 PM
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75. well there seems to be a preponderance of Repubs on the list
here's the list of Democrats convicted of crimes (note, only one of them sexual)

Here then is the list of former Democratic members of Congress who were convicted or pleaded guilty to major offenses between 1992 and 1999:

* Nick Mavroules, Massachusetts Democrat: tax evasion, accepting illegal gratuity (1992).
* Albert Bustamante, Texas Democrat: racketeering (1993).
* Carroll Hubbard, Kentucky Democrat: fraud and corruption (1994).
* Carl Perkins, Kentucky Democrat: fraud (1994).
* Charlie Rose, North Carolina Democrat: financial-disclosure irregularities (1994).
* Larry Smith, Florida Democrat: tax evasion (1994).
* Walter Fauntroy, District of Columbia Democrat: financial-disclosure misdemeanor (1995).
* Gerald Kleczka, Wisconsin Democrat: arrested for DWI (1995 and 1990); convicted DWI (1987).
* Mel Reynolds, Illinois Democrat: sexual misconduct (1995).
* Walter Tucker, California Democrat: extortion (1995).
* Charles Wilson, Texas Democrat: paid $90,000 fine to Federal Election Commission (1995).
* Joe Kolter, Pennsylvania Democrat: fraud and conspiracy (1996).
* Dan Rostenkowski, Illinois Democrat: mail fraud (1996).
* Mary Rose Oakar, Ohio Democrat: financial-disclosure irregularities (1998).
* Austin J. Murphy, Pennsylvania Democrat: vote fraud (1999).

and here's the Repuke list

Edison Misla Aldarondo, Republican legislator, was sentenced to 13 years in prison for molestation of his daughter and her friend for eight-year period starting when they were 9. Full Article

Randal David Ankeney, Republican activist, arrested on suspicion of sexual assault on a child with force. He faces 6 charges related to getting a 13-year-old girl stoned on pot and then having sex with her. Source Also accused of sexually assaulting another girl. Denver ABC Article

Merrill Robert Barter, Republican County Commissioner, pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy. Booth Bay Register Article

Robert Bauman, Republican congressman and anti-gay activist, was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar. Source: Washington Blade

Parker J. Bena, Republican activist and Bush Elector, pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography (including children as young as 3 years old) on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000. Source

Louis Beres, chairman of the Christian Coalition of Oregon. 3 of his family members accuse him of molesting them when they were pre-teens. Editor and Publisher article

Howard L. Brooks, Republican legislative aide and advisor to a California assemblyman, was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography. Sacramento Bee article

Andrew Buhr, Republican politician, former committeeman for Hadley Township Missouri, was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy. Source

John Allen Burt, Republican anti-abortion activist, convicted of sexually molesting a 15 year old girl at the home for troubled girls that he ran. Source: Pensacola News Journal

John Butler, Republican activist, was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Ken Calvert, Congressman (R-Ca), champion of the Christian Coalition and its "family values." Sued as an alimony deadbeat by his ex-wife. Said "We can't forgive what occurred between the President and Lewinsky." In 1993 he was caught by police receiving oral sex from a prostitute and attempted to flee the scene.

Keola Childs, Republican County Councilman, pleaded guilty to sexual assault in the first degree for molesting a male child.Honolulu Star-Bulletin Article

Kevin Coan, Republican St. Louis Election Board official, arrested and charged with trying to buy sex from a 14-year-old girl whom he met on the Internet. Source: Newmax

Dan Crane, Republican Congressman, married, father of six. Received a 100% "Morality Rating" from Christian Voice. Had sex with a minor working as a congressional page. Salon.com article On July 20, the House voted for censure Crane, the first time that censure had been imposed for sexual misconduct.<6>

Richard A. Dasen Sr., Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, convicted of sexual abuse of children, promotion of prostitution and several counts of solicitation, enough to add up to a sentence of 126 years in prison. Investigators estimated that he spent up to $5,000,000 on prostitutes.

Richard A. Delgaudio, Republican fundraiser and Bush pioneer, was found guilty of child porn charges. WBAL Channel article

Peter Dibble, Republican legislator pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl. News Channel 8 Article

Nicholas Elizondo, Director of the Young Republican Federation molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison. Halfway down this Bakersfield Californian article

Larry Dale Floyd, Republican Constable in Denton County, Texas Precinct Two. Arrested for allegedly crossing state lines to have sex with an 8-year old child and was charged with 7 related offenses. Age 62 at time of arrest. Dallas News Article | Atrios Article

Jack W. Gardner, Republican Councilman, had been convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl. when the Republican Party, knowing of these crimes, put him on the ballot. Article with documents

Richard Gardner, a Nevada State Representative (R), admitted to molesting his two daughters. Review Journal Article

Philip Giordano, Republican mayor sentenced to 37 years for forcing two 8 and 10 year old girls to perform oral sex on him in his City Hall office. NBC Article | Newsday Article

Marty Glickman, Republican activist, was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with a juvenile and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

Mark A. Grethen, Republican activist, convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children. Orlando Weekly article

Jon Grunseth, Republican businessman and candidate for Minnesota governor, withdrew his candidacy after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter, and tried to grope one. "I've made some mistakes" he said. USA Today article

Mark Harris, Republican city councilman who is described as a "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

John Hathaway, Republican Senate candidate, was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media. Source: Casco Bay weekly

Howard Scott Heldreth, anti-abortion activist who gained fame during the Shiavo media-circus, was convicted of two charges of raping a child in 2002. page at Florida Department of Law Enforcement's Sexual Offender/Predator Unit

Mike Hintz, a First Assembly of God youth pastor, introduced by Bush on the campaign trail, and promoted his policies. Says he supports Bush's values. Two months later, this married father of four turned himself into police, charged with the sexual exploitation of a child. Article | Commentary

Also signed an ad (that called for criminally prosecuting business that sell porn), along with another pastor who was repeatedly busted for public masturbation.

Don Haidl, Assistant Sheriff of Orange Country, in violation of California's rape shield law, led a smear campaign against the child his son poisoned and then violently gang-raped on videotape, adding up to 24 felony counts. He said that his son "acted accordingly" because the child was a "slut". The full gruesome story, with many newspaper articles.

Paul Ingram, Republican Party leader of Thurston County, Washington, pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison. Source: The Olympian

Earl Kimmerling, sentenced to 40 years in prison after he confessed to molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her. Source

Lawrence E. King, Jr., Republican Activist, organized orgies with child prostitutes at the White House during the 1980s. Full page including Washington Times article Discovery Channel documentary

Donald Lukens, Republican Congressman, was found guilty of having sex with a minor - a girl he was accused of sleeping with since she was 13. Time Article

Pat McPherson, Douglas County Election Commissioner. Arrested for fondling a 17-year-old girl. Article

Jon Matthews, Republican talk show host in Houston, was indicted for indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the age of 17. Source: ABC News


Jeffrey Patti, Republican Committee Chairman, was arrested for distributing what experts call "some of the most offensive material in the child pornography world" - a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped. Daily Record News Article

Harvey Pitt, SEC Chief under George W. Bush until he was forced to resign in 2002. Worked for New Frontier Media, a firm which distributed teen sex videos.

Mark Pazuhanich, Republican judge, pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation. Pocono Record article

Beverly Russell, County Chairman of the Christian Coalition, sexually molested his step-daughter, Susan Smith, who later drowned her two children. Herald-Journal Article |Commentary on Newsweek Article

Larry Jack Schwarz, Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, fired after child pornography was found in his possession. Rocky Mountain News article With his political career over, he went to work in the hard-core pornography industry for Platinum X Pictures, owned by his daughter, porn starlet Jewel De'Nyle (Stephany Schwarz). Wikipedia article

Tom Shortridge. Republican campaign consultant, was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl. LA Times article

Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr., Republican City Councilman, pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison. Sex Offender Registry page | Article

David Swartz, Republican County Commissioner, pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison. Rocky Mountain News Article

Robin Vanderwall, Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate, director of Faith & Family Alliance, (a Christian Coalition spin off), former student of Pat Robertson's Regent Universtity, member of Ralph Reed's inner circle who funneled money to from lobbiest Jack Abromoff to Reed <11>, convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet. Virginian-Pilot Article

Keith Westmoreland, a Tennessee state representative (R), was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to minors under 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children). Tennesean Article

Stephen White, Republican preacher. Was arrested after allegedly offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him. Daily Pennsylvanian article | Daily yale News Article

http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Republican_Sex_Scandals

and this is just a partial list......
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:30 AM
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120. You can't make that comparison between those two groups.
The Dem list is built off an extremely small sampling group, it only looks at Members of Congress.

The Repub list is built off just about ever active GOPer nationwide, right down to district committeemen and activists. The Repub list is built off a much larger universe.

I'm all for nailing Repubs on their moral hypocrisy, but a bad argument is a bad argument.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:26 PM
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77. They call us out on anything that any Dem does. It is time we fight back
against the "party of family values" bull shit
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:32 PM
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78. Not a big fan of Randi, but I'm backing her on this one. n/t
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:34 PM
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79. Tough it is partisan wakeup and smell the evil.
I.....Do you want a list?

There is something inherently evil with republicans

Sodomy rape, child pornography, torture, murder, war, sweatshops (delay), cat killing(frist)....etc.

Crime happens, but these kind of crimes says
that there is something more going on than just raiding the collection plate.
Something very alarming and disturbing
that permeates continually from the core of the republican mindset.
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Sleepless In NY Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:50 PM
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83.  The "Morality" Party : "Sex tourism thriving in Bible Belt"
"Sex tourism thriving in Bible Belt"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060404/us_nm/crime_sextourism_dc

"Son of Arizona Senate President (R) sodomizes 18 boys, will walk on plea"
http://www.azdailysun.com/articles/2006/04/03/news/local/20060403_local_news_7.txt

"REPUBLICAN PEDOPHILIA"
http://www.armchairsubversive.com/

It's time to burst the Republican Myth of being Holier Than Thou.


Call them out Randi and THANKS!
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:44 PM
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80. Yawn. Wow. someone else digs to find faux moral outrage
to decry Randi.

At least *try* and keep up with reality.

It is important to point out the hypocrisy of folks.

It is important to point out that folks who repress for so long will act out in criminal and destructive ways.

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SeaBob Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:50 PM
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82. Randi
It sounds to me like thats was just an excuse for justifying your dislike for randi Rhodes. I think its great she did that, The American Public has a right to know what our politicians have done. Court records are public records.
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:51 PM
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84. I caught a bit of it...
...and hadn't even heard of any of them.

Redmeat for folks like us...but no one else will care.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:51 PM
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85. I don't view using "facts' and "truth" as a cheap stunt...
isn't that the spin we hear from the GOP?

You are right about this...that "idiot" Rush WOULD have said that she was using it as a partisan attack. That, I am in full agreement with.

Peace.
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:52 PM
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86. I think the point is they
spend so much time telling us how moral they are and how liberals are god hating , baby killing, commy loving heathens not to mention all the dust kicked up when Clinton got a blow job from a consenting adult.

It's the whole glass house theme
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:53 PM
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87. I don't listen to Randi, anymore.

Or, Air America for that matter.

The only one I like is Sam Seder. He is GREAT.

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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:10 PM
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89. GOP = Greasy Old Predators.
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:36 PM
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97. GOP = Groping Old Pigs. n/t
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:44 PM
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104. That's good too!
:popcorn: :popcorn:
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:20 PM
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90. I disagree with you
If a political party runs a "family values" platform then they open the doors to the hypocrisy among their members.

Besides it's fun seeing these pricks in handcuffs.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:27 PM
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91. I see, we should just allow them to do whatever they want
and not call them on it. This is the problem with the entire Democratic party. What has to happen before it's ok to call them on their bullshit? We sit there trying not to stoop to their level and they just keep smacking us in the face. And apparently your statement about party affiliation having nothing to do with sexual perversions is plain wrong. What was it Mary Carey said? I get hit on more by drunk Republicans in Washington than I do at the AVN (adult video network) awards in Las Vegas...
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:32 PM
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93. Well ya gotta admit that the repukes do seem to dominate perv roles
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:34 PM
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95. The point, as always, is that the GOP is the "party of values"
The sex crimes and scandals, sorry to disappoint you, are WAAAAAAY tipped over to the GOP column. Most of us point out the fact that the assholes who are constantly screaming that the Democrats are without morals, are in fact the ones that are constantly caught with either their pants down, or their hand in a cookie jar. THat's her point.

I'm not a bit Randi fan, she's so terrible with callers (never lets them make a point, only interested in her own jokes), BUT.. I defend her on doing this, as the Dems are tired of being portrayed as subhuman, morally bereft, people.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:35 PM
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96. Wow. So much for marshalling support, eh?
lol

I thought everyone would be agreeing with ya too...

lol
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:58 PM
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106. Nah, I didn't think I'd get much support.
That wasn't the point of the post anyway. I just wanted to express my disgust with this kind of theatrics.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:59 PM
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107. Well I'm glad you got to express it at least
Even though I disagree too - at least you got a lot of eyes on your thought - sometimes that's the best you can get.

:)
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:07 AM
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118. what's amazing is we get all upset
when the neo-cons do their swift-boat lying. I mean, some of Bush's campaign team even lied about another Republican to win. They lied about George McGovern, then apologized for lying. But when the truth comes out about any of those "worthy" family valued neo-cons, we're not supposed to say anything? We're supposed to take the high road? Or is it the cowed, gullible road? There's nothing wrong with exposing the truth, especially when their party theme is "Protect our family values."
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:15 PM
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123. It's not theatrics.
It's revealing the truth. A lie has been promulgated for years that sex crimes are perpetrated primarily by liberals. If you were not aware of this, I assure you it's true. The right-wing fundies believe that liberalism leads to perversion. I'm glad Randi is throwing it back in their face, it's the right thing to do.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:38 PM
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98. You don't get it...she's EXPOSING HYPOCRITES. Typically they are repug. nt
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:39 PM
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99. Maybe it's just coincidence. Maybe not. Who's got proof?
It's your conclusion that party affilliation has nothing to do with crimes, but it does, clearly, given the list. The only question is, is it just a strange coincidence or not? I think not.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:42 PM
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100. Let the "Party of Morality" be hoisted on their own petard
http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Moral_Values

Since they have used "morality" as a big stick to beat us down (quite effectively), then calling them on their hypocrisy is FAIR GAME. Not fighting Fire with Fire is why Dems lose elections.

Not anymore.
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Kailassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:42 PM
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101. If the media wont tell people what Republicans get up to
and the Democrats won't mention it because it's not nice to tell the truth ...

then how are the public ever going to find out?


Oh, that's the whole idea, isn't it? We must make sure everyone believes the lies and exagerations told about Democrats, and thinks that repukes live up to the psuedo-moralistic bullshit they purvey, otherwise they might lose yet another election.

And stuff the victims, who cares about them anyway?
We can't have their side getting heard if that might hurt the party that has decided it is destined to rule forever.
:sarcasm: (emoticon included for repukes who might otherwise think I was supporting their cause)
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gr8dane_daddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:42 PM
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102. Its this type of "we must play nice" shit
that lost us the last election. Screw it, can't play hardball with a whiffle bat.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:44 PM
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103. you've got that right! (posted above)
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:47 PM
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105. Sorry, but you're missing the point here. Big-time.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 06:00 PM
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108. Sorry, but you have no way of determining that
and if you're so sure that you understand "the point", do enlighten me.
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Scott Lee_ Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:55 PM
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112. Oh stop!
I am so sick of this "let's not be mean to the rethugs because we take the HIGH road" shit I could puke. Good on Randi if she used the point to show that the current GOP dominated climate in DC is now safe harbor for sick, corrupt jerkoffs like this DHS perv.

Put on your brass knuckles, and put away your halo and sense of righteous indignation. You may actually win a few elections for a change.
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:02 AM
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115. YYYEEEAAAHHH!! Welcome to DU!
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :toast: :bounce: :woohoo: :applause:
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Scott Lee_ Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:06 AM
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117. Thanks Warrior man
I'll take my scotch straight up - on the rocks.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:24 PM
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124. Welcome to DU!
Right on!

Every vehicle which delivers the GOP to the seventh circle of hell is useful and appropriate.

Truth is, I've had enough of swiftboating/election stealing/max cleland-ing/lewinskying that the fact that the DHS allegations are true is just a bonus.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:58 PM
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113. Doctor, it hurts when I do this ....
.... Then don't do that.

If you don't like her, her style, what she has to say, how she says it, her "agenda" then TURN IT OFF!

Personally, I am glad that she is telling the story that needs to be told. The only way to show that they don't have the market cornered on "Family Values" is to call bullshit by exposing them.

Here's a great place to start, although it must need more updating after this weeks revelations, huh? (Just a clue, those on the right are still arguing that a BJ is worse than anything they do ... not because it was a bj between two consenting adults ... but because of WHERE it happened ... just like the Dixie Chicks debacle) http://www.armchairsubversive.com/

And never forget the Franklin Scandals!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:01 AM
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114. Fine, then let her list Democrats charged with sex crime to be fair
(chirp, chirp)
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:11 PM
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122. They are the ones claiming they are morally superior.
Randi was merely setting the record straight. There has been a meme propogated for years that liberals and sexual deviance go together.

Good job, Randi.
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