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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:05 PM
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Attack of the horny female teachers
Teacher accused of having sex with boy, 13
On one occasion, she let student's 12-year-old friend watch, police say

DOVER, Del. - An elementary school teacher accused of having sex with a 13-year-old student has been arrested and charged with multiple counts of rape, authorities said.

The teacher allegedly had sex with the boy 28 times during the last week of March, and on at least one occasion allowed the boy’s 12-year-old friend to watch, authorities said. She also gave the students alcohol, according to New Castle County Police.

Rachel Holt, 34, a science teacher at Claymont Elementary School, was arrested early Tuesday and charged with rape, providing alcohol to a minor and unlawfully dealing with a child, authorities said. Acting county Police Chief Lt. Col. Scott McLaren said the boy’s father contacted authorities after becoming suspicious that his son was having an inappropriate relationship with his teacher. Authorities said Holt took the boy out for dinner and allowed him to drive her vehicle.

Ellen Marie Cooper, a staff attorney for Brandywine School District, refused to discuss Holt’s employment status but said a substitute teacher was conducting her classes.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12168730/

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28 times in one week?
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:06 PM
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1. 4 times a day
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 04:07 PM by KingFlorez
That's probably not exact, but that how much the average would be for 28 times in a week
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AGKISTRODON Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:11 PM
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4. Not the teachers I remember
When I was in school all the female teachers were about 110 years old.:eyes:
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:18 PM
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8. and about as apealing as a sack
Well not all but most
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AGKISTRODON Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:37 PM
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12. I did learn later
I heard later that a couple of them drove to Miami every break they got. In the old days, teachers were not allowed to have sex lives in their home counties.:eyes:
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:44 AM
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29. I dunno... some of those nuns I had...
... were young.

Bad juju to pop a little chubby during a nun fantasy, tho. (Hit my knuckles again, sister... it feels sooooo good!)
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:49 AM
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31. Not mine. Some were totally hot.
Of course, I'm what, 16-17, and they were in their mid-20's?

So when I'm 22, I'm dating women in their 30's. I've ALWAYS had a thing for older women.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:09 PM
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2. Where? Where??!!
Can someone pick me up and give me a ride there? I don't have a car.

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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:10 PM
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3. This stuff is tailor-made for the media environment.
It's just salacious enough, it tweaks the national conscience about pedophilia, it appeals to the adolescent fantasies of an important demographic, and it distracts from important news - who could ask for more?
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standup Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:12 PM
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5. We're having an epidemic of free sex ed lessons...
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:14 PM
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6. Attack of the horny BLONDE female teachers...
A perfect alternative to covering real news like Delay's humiliating exit from politics, or that DHS guy caught soliciting 14-yr-old boys on the internet, Kerry's w/drawal from Iraq plan, the Democrats Real Security Plan, and on, and on, and on.......... It's disgusting.

TC
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standup Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:21 PM
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9. Rachel is not a blonde:
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:16 PM
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7. Here's a list from the Smoking Gun.
http://www.google.com/custom?q=sex+teacher+student&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&cof=AWFID:dfe4f3f790029d37%3BL:%3BLH:136%3BLW:600%3BGL:2%3BBIMG:%3BBGC:%23000000%3BT:%23FFFFFF%3BLC:%23FF9D00%3BVLC:%23FF9D00%3BALC:%23ffffff%3BGALT:%23ffffff%3BGFNT:%23ffffff%3BGIMP:%23FF9D00%3BDIV:%23FF9D00%3BLBGC:%23000000%3BAH:left%3BS:http://www.thesmokinggun.com%3B&domains=www.thesmokinggun.com&sitesearch=www.thesmokinggun.com&start=0&sa=N
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NJ Democrats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:26 PM
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10. 28 times in a week?
Holy shit!!!
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:28 PM
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11. Where were all the horny teachers when I was in school?
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AGKISTRODON Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:43 PM
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14. Probably gone to Miami
With my teachers!:toast:
I think the Miami teachers came to Jacksonville to get laid!:evilgrin:
They probably got credit for attending educational conferences!
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mrbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:07 AM
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26. the media wasn't around in 1965 at my high school.......
There were a lot of rumors going around about Miss Karlton, the 28-year-old nice looking firey latin type Spanish teacher. She was spending way too much time with Wayne, a 15-year old sophmore with a bad, bad homelife.

Miss Karlton and Wayne were living together and doing it, but only a few discreet students knew what was happening and figured that it was nobody else's business. As the year progressed, Miss Carlton and Wayne became more open in their relationship and the school administration got a clue to what was going on and freeked.

Miss Karton's contract was not renewed and we got a new Spanish teacher. Wayne soon turned 16, they went to Oklahoma, waited three days, got married and then lived happily ever after.

Times were so very different back then, only four tv channels.

No problem with gun racks on the high school parking lot. Pistolas were frowned upon as were switchblades.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:38 AM
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28. Standing in the front of the classroom!
Lotta stories we don't need to go into here, but I married a colleague.

Ours was a young district, and for a few years there, the affairs and hangovers were a lot more common with the teachers than the kids.
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:41 PM
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13. Just Disgusting
Talk about a double standard in our country. If a 34 male 6th grade science teacher had sex 28 times during a week with a 13 year old girl, on one occasion "forcing" (cause they'd use that word) another female friend to watch...

People would be calling for his blood. They'd call him a demon.

This woman is no different. Period.
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standup Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:53 PM
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16. Women can really get away with a lot of shit
Maybe they're the "weaker" sex and all, but they've got American men by the balls. For example, if you're in a meeting at work and when a guy raises his voice a little bit or disagrees with a woman too strongly, well.. that's just "rude" and "ungentlemanly", but when a woman does it, it's called "assertive"! BTW We need to get rid of that ritual where the man gets on his knees and freakin' begs for marriage like a puppy. That's so stupid.
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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:06 PM
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20. YOu should try living on the other side
of that double-standard sometime. It's not exactly a picnic. :eyes:

And I don't know that the response is all because of the fact that she's a woman, but also because so many of the men that hear this story react in the manner that the kid was fortunate.

If that were my son, I would give that woman a permanent limp. She's sick.
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AGKISTRODON Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:57 PM
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17. Yeah, you are correct, but
Not many 13 year old males resist, they are too busy volunteering. That is the age when the male brain descends from the head, to a lower place in the body, just ask me, my brain still hasn't completed the return trip, and I am older than primeval mud!:9
Thing is, when you reach a certain age, and want to live in society, you must start thinking about others, and not always put your own desires first. The teachers involved have the years, but not the wisdom. We all have impulses, wisdom suggests that we think about consequences. I'm gonna shut up, my years are showing!:toast:
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:12 PM
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22. Some 13 year old girls would volunteer too
Plenty of girls are in a race to grow up. Others have emotional issues from previous abuses.

It doesn't make it right either way. It's exploitative and wrong at that age. Just go to an elementary or middle school and LOOK at the 6th graders. My sister is a 6th grade teacher and I've been in there. Those boy's bodies might be starting to mature, but they're minds certainly aren't. It's wrong, and evil to exploit them like this, regardless of anyone's sex.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:14 PM
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23. There's a return trip???
Bah! I'm stayin!

:rofl:
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:59 AM
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32. It is not a lack of wisdom. I know a female teacher who is in jail
for molesting a 12yo male student. It wasn't a lack of wisdom, she has/had deep emotional problems that showed in other ways. I wouldn't doubt that any woman of this age who molests a boy has major psychological problems. There is something truly wrong with a grown woman who finds BOYS attractive.



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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:59 PM
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18. If either of those children were my child
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 04:59 PM by laheina
I would be calling for blood. She is a demon. Period.

It seems that some are reliving their adolescence at a rather inappropriate moment. :eyes:
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:16 PM
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24. They are reliving it inaccurately
It would shock me if anyone who has a 13 year old child, or close relative, would be ok with this. I've never met a 13 year old who would come close to being called mature. They WANT to be mature, and in retrospect they might think they were more mature than they are, but they're not.

This isn't being a 17 year old high school senior leering at the hot 22 year old teachers aide. Even that would have been very wrong on the 22 year old's part if she were to have participated in anything.

This is a mid-thirties woman exploiting (raping) a 13 year old boy.

Very different.
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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:44 PM
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25. I agree with you completely. nt
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:48 PM
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15. In a "traditional" biblical marriage, a 13 year-old boy could be married
But then again, it would be up to the boys parents to choose a suitable bride for him with a good dowry.

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Bombero1956 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:59 PM
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19. if a 34 year old
teacher were to have sex with a 13 year old girl 28 times in a week you could call him dead or Superman.
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AGKISTRODON Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:12 PM
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21. In a valid marriage
Both partners need to be mature enough to handle resulting offspring. In the world we now live in, there is no way a 13 year old biological father is able to fulfill the responsibilities involved. I'm "old fashion". If I help make a child, there is no way I can morally not help raise it.
I got married in 1968, the deal was that we would wait to have children, turned out that my wife was spitting out the birth control pills, and, my daughter was born about 8 months into the marriage. Once I got used to the idea, and then got to hold my kid in my arms, it was the best thing ever to happen in my life. Being a father, and then a grandfather, is just about the greatest thing ever. Several times a day, someone says, "I love you grampa", and I get a hug. It sure is enough for me.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:19 AM
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27. Twenty eight times? How would anybody know this unless
they were keeping a running written talley?
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standup Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:32 AM
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30. It was a science experiment
She was just trying to find an average
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:27 AM
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33. What's worse is that they usually get
weak sentences or dropped charges. Rape is rape whether children know the difference or not or whether the perpetrators are male or female.
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