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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:22 PM
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After thread after thread here demeaning Katie Couric, I salute her.
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 08:40 PM by David Zephyr
Let's get a few things straight. Katie Couric did not "replace" Dan Rather. She had nothing to do with his shabby treatment. And for the record, Dan Rather is a hero of mine and anyone can search the archives here to see how much I've posted in tribute to this great journalist. That said, the blatant misogyny masquerading as outrage on behalf of journalism is just pathetic.

Since my earliest posts here at the great DemocraticUnderground.Com in its infancy back in 2001, I railed against the "corporate media". Those who know me well know this about me. In spite of that, CBS News has been the singular network news outlet within that corporate paradigm that has always been the closest to the angels from the days of Edward Murrow to Walter Cronkite and Dan Rather. That tradition is something, I think, of honor.

In these post Paddy Chayefsky Network days, it is easy to understand disappointment in another network anchor being chosen with other criteria than just journalism. CBS News is on the brink of extinction now. Within the sad corporate news paradigm, it is still the best television news organization. Katie just might save it. I think that's a good thing since, like it or not, most Americans don't read The Nation or even subsribe to newspapers, but they do watch broadcast television.

So, yes I'm very happy to see that CBS called on Katie Couric. And yes, I like her a lot. And I hardly think that the protests over her anchoring at CBS merit the pomposity and outrage expressed here. Why? Because it is just smacks of a huge double standard to me. The same double standard that always seems to pop up whenever a woman reaches into a professional realm formerly reserved exclusively to men.

If Katie Couric rocks up ratings of the best of the network news organizations, CBS News, from the bottom of the heap to the top --- which I believe is certain ---- then more Americans will be tuning into a better news organization than they did in the past.

Roger Ailes is already, with the blessings of the Murdoch Corporation, roping in all Fox Broadcast Stations to showcase the same "news" that it poisons the airwaves with on cable already. Think about that: Fox "News" will soon be in that prime broadcast arena with ABC, NBC and CBS with its "fair and balanced" reporting. That should alarm everyone, because millions upon millions more Americans still watch broadcast news over cable news. That's why seeing CBS News once again at the top is important to me.

Peter Jennings was a high school drop out. Brian Williams is a pretty face for General Electric's corporate slanted broadcasted news. He's a nice guy, but hardly a hard nose journalist. I could go on and on, but Couric has been at the top of television for 15 years. She's worked very hard and is no idiot. Go to CBS News Home Page and check out Katie's bio, her years of hard professional work and then, for pete's sake, give her a chance, would you?

I'm betting that by Thanksgiving, CBS Nightly News will be the number one broadcast news show on television. I know that there is already an instant pop poll that alleges that most Americans would prefer to see Katie stay at the Today Show. I'll eat my hat if that is the case by Thanksgiving when Americans are tuning into to watch CBS News anchored by Katie.

Is the first woman to anchor one of the big three nightly news programs a big deal? Hell yes it is. It is a great thing, too. It's about time and I'm rooting for Katie. I hope that you will, too.

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:24 PM
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1. If you have watched the Today Show, you would have seen...
that she is a right wing media whore. She is scum! She deseves the beating she's gotten.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:29 PM
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9. Good news is I might be able to check out the Today show again soon
Haven't watched it in years... Could only take Katie for a few months before I changed a life long morning TV habit.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:16 PM
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52. I agree with you 100%! She is a corporate whore and the hatchet
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 02:17 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
jobs she attempts to do on those who dissent are disgusting. She is also incompetent at that. She gets very shrill and ugly.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:24 PM
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2. Impressive that she made it...
...as much as she looks and sounds like Beeker from the Muppets!

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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:25 PM
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3. Did you see her challange Dean over Abramoff funding to Dems?
She's lost my respect permanently for that journalistic F'up.

And her mea-culpa afterwards was pathetic.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:25 PM
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4. Exactly!
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:31 PM
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13. And yet she let Mary Matalin ramble on unchallenged...
during an interview about the Cheney shooting incident. Katie "Navy Seals Rock" Couric is a hack.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:29 PM
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79. That interview is classic... Watch it here...
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 06:31 PM by calipendence
Even leading up to the slam that Dean does against her for the Abramoff allegations that SHE makes and supports as supposedly an "objective" journalist, there is a whole bucketload of Republican talking points that she uses before that in her quizzing of Dean, which fortunately Dean handles well. Well yeah, Katie, most Americans aren't behind Hillary as the "frontrunner" for the 2008 nomination precisely because she ISN'T the frontrunner for that nomination despite what the Republicans are trying to allege to you. Her rationlizations for domestic spying too really make me thinking I'm watching something that belongs in a "Dirty Laundry" music video too...

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/01/26.html#a6871

For me Amy Goodman IS the first real woman news anchor and will still be the most prolific and accomplished anchor from this point forward too. An interview with Howard Dean from her would be COMPLETELY different and far more thoughtful than spewing Republican talking points for reactions.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 10:48 AM
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96. What an utterly disgusting display.
I want her in Walter Cronkite's chair about as much as I want Wilford Brimley in there.

If you want a woman in the position, I'd love to have Christianne A. If she's not an anchor type, how about Thalia Assurace (don't kow the spelling there)? She's already anchoring their news some nights.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:26 PM
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5. Right, we don't get enough GOP slop in the trough. N/T
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:26 PM
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6. Reading a teleprompter is a marketable skill. nt
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petepillow Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:26 PM
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7. dude, i feel ya. i have no beef with her at all.
it will very anti-climactic for everyone when they find out that a woman hosting the news is going to be...exactly the same.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:26 PM
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8. So Katie Couric isn't the epitome of the "Corporate Media" that you rail
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 08:27 PM by Blue State Native
against? I only see her as the "Corporate Media".
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:30 PM
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12. What I want to know is, is she still dating that Republican donor
who used to be engaged to Laura Ingraham, but dumped Laura when he found out she had breast cancer, and moved on to Katie instead? :shrug:
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:29 PM
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10. I salute her almost every morning
I hate seeing her move away from the today show and I'm not sure if she'll be accepted do good on the evening news but I wish her the best.


Matt & Katie

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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:34 PM
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14. So do I.
And thanks for your comments, too.
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:29 PM
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11. Great post!
I agree with you. Katie Couric will have a lot to prove to an army of skeptics, but I think she will do just fine. She is one tough cookie, and if she succeeds, it will be a big step forward for women in TV journalism. She's going to give the job everything she's got. It will be interesting to see her grow into the job.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:43 PM
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16. Thanks!
I agree that she will "give the job everything she's got." I am pulling for her.
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hholli11 Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:36 PM
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15. Katie's Late Sister Was the Head of the Virginia Democratic Party...
before her death a few years back.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:57 PM
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20. While I respect and agree with a lot of what David is saying
my brother is as repug as they come. So what is your point?
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:37 PM
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83. Baldwin brothers are pretty "opposite" politically too!
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:47 PM
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17. I couldn't give two shits what gender she is
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 08:48 PM by jpgray
But the lion's share of her work thus far has been entirely superficial--she has zero impressive journalistic credentials to hold up as did Murrow, Cronkite and Rather. Mostly she hosts a four hour infotainment show, and the few times she is confronted with something that goes against the prepsheet (cf. Dean's almost casually easy smackdown of her on her connecting Dems with Abramoff), she is utterly at sea and her eyes reflect only the emptiness that is in her head. There are plenty of male cognates for her in the news world (Bill Hemmer slouches to mind), so I think making this about misogyny misses the point entirely for some of us who object.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:51 PM
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18. When she said she was following her "gut"...
... I was thinking about her televised colonoscopy.

Damn.... she's got a perky colon!
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:01 PM
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22. Since her husband died of colon cancer I thought it was great that
she was raising the awareness of millions of people by doing it. It wasn't just on Today. They talked about it on many shows.

I've been a little surprised at the ferocity of the hostility. Same with the Oprah haters. I strongly suspect both are actually Dems (or tend to vote that way).

I hope she does well. If she doesn't, she and CBS will pay for it.

I have rarely watched her on the Today show for the past eight years or so - before then I would flip around before work. Perhaps if I had watched more I would understand the strong negative reaction, otherwise the reaction seems a bit extreme.

Flame away.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:57 PM
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19. I say give her a chance.
Katie has been successful with everything she has attempted. Why shouldn't she do well at CBS?

With all the radical right wing accusations of liberal media bias, there is fear in the newsroom that someone may sound too liberal. They frequently bend over backwards to accommodate the fundies.

I would love to see CBS turn into the UN-FOX-the-nation station. A station that was not afraid of appearing liberal, but a station that would tell the truth when other networks are afraid of the truth sounding too liberal -- The Air America of TV News. (Hey, a girl can dream, can't she?)

I know Katie comes from an open minded liberal background, and if I had to guess, I think she was probably asking for more journalistic freedom in her negotiations with CBS.

I wish her the best of luck. I heard she would be on the CBS Nightly News starting in September and would also be working with 60 Minutes.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:12 PM
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35. Take a look at these posts from mediamatters.
Couric is Fox "News" material.

(Wal-Mart "is as American as mom and apple pie")
http://mediamatters.org/items/200603220005



(Today issued non-correction to Couric falsehood)
"Summary: One day after NBC's Katie Couric chided Howard Dean for saying that Democratic lawmakers received no campaign contributions from Jack Abramoff, Matt Lauer said that "technically speaking, Howard Dean may be correct." In fact, Dean was correct and Couric was wrong."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200601270003
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:59 PM
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21. Wow. The only thing you have to say about Peter Jennings is that he
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 09:10 PM by IDemo
"was a high school dropout"?? Jennings didn't just show up to read a teleprompter, he was deeply involved in the production and had several decades of experience. His departure from the anchor-desk and his death due to lung cancer was a major loss to television news. Show a little respect, please.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:14 PM
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74. Exactly - the fact that Jennings reached such heights dispite
is lack of formal education is something to be admired, not spat on. The nerve of that OP trumpeting about Katie Couric but casting Jennings aside as a footnote is pathetic.

Katie Couric is the morning version of Entertainment Tonight: cheesy.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:04 PM
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23. Navy SEALS rock!
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 09:06 PM by Marr


Katie Couric sums up the problem with American journalism and no, I'm not going to clap for some infotainment airhead just because she's a woman.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:19 PM
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24. You make a lot of good points
And esp. if she entices some people away from FOX - whether one intends to watch her or not - she has to be better than O"Reilly and Tweety and such.

And yeah - this has brought out the sexism in a lot of people. It's pretty annoying.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:51 PM
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44. Thanks, bloom.
Katie, as anchor, will probably be on the air those 30 minutes around 10 minutes while the rest of the program will be CBS news stories.

Katie will be the face for the most liberal television news organization of the three corporate broadcast news groups.

If Katie brings more viewers to the CBS News and away from NBC and ABC I think that's a great thing.

And yes, the sexism is annoying. I understand it at the Free Republic where they hate Couric, but here at the DU disguised as outrage is pretty sad.

Thanks for your comments. I'm pulling for Katie and I think she will whip the hell out of the other two network news in ratings.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:26 PM
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25. Who's Katie Couric?
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:35 PM
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26. I find the outrage at Katie ridiculous....Anchors are merely mouthpieces
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 09:36 PM by Rowdyboy
Faces reading text and occasionally getting to ask a serious question. She's as qualified as any of the other networks "faces". Plus, I've heard her ask some damn tough questions.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:41 PM
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41. Absolutely. And the outrage is hypocritical.
I don't see outrage from those who are outraged with Katy about the other male anchors and their qualifications. Most of the "outrage" expressed here has come from guys, too (not all, but most).

It's good to see other fellows like you Rowdyboy who are willing to give the first woman anchor a chance to do her job and then judge.

I'm proud of Katie.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 10:56 AM
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97. I'm proud to see the first woman anchor as well
we need many more, however, I've watched Katie on several occasions go beyond the pale with her interviews that one would consider "biased" against liberals.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:46 PM
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60. My point is that real anchors are not mouthpieces.
I grew up watching Walter Cronkite, Eric Severeid and Dan Rather, among others, on the evening news broadcasts.

Katie Couric is no Walter Cronkite or Dan Rather, that's for sure.

That said, she's got lots of opportunity for improvement. She could surprise us but I doubt it.

You know, all this Couric/Today Show talk makes me miss Jane Pauley. :(
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:39 PM
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27. I Don't Believe Katie's The First Female Anchor
You may recall Jessica Savitch?

Otherwise, I respect your opinion, it's a thoughtful post.

There aren't that many credible, bankable names around. Period.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:35 PM
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56. The great Ms. Savitch hosted a weekend show. Other female anchors were
part of a team. My favorite was always Linda Ellerbee (in late night).

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/04-06/04-06-06/19world-nation.htm

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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 11:08 AM
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100. Other people rememberJessica, too?
I thought she was a great news person. Such a shame to die so young. She was from Philadelphia and did an excellent job. She was gorgeous, too, but without Katie Couric's cutesiness (something like truthiness?). Two of our best local reporters are females, one black and one white. Either one of them could do a great job as an anchor, but, sadly, they're just sent out to stand in front of crime scenes, etc., while the actual anchors are, well, not the greatest, but they've been around a long time.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:54 PM
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28. She's not the first...
Elizabeth Vargas is handling ABC Nightly News by herself since Bob Woodruff's accident, and I personally like her quite a bit. I won't be switching to Katie. More power to her, but I've never really cared for her much.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:35 PM
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81. Still looking to the day that people recognize Amy Goodman...
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 06:36 PM by calipendence
for her excellent solo hosting work that she's been doing for some time in the ever expanding audience of Democracy Now! too... I know she's not on "the big three", but in my book, the significance of the big three is falling daily, and indy news sources like Democracy Now should be looked at more as peers soon to them.
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:58 PM
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29. Amen!
I don't watch Couric now, and I won't watch CBS News when she is anchoring, but I already don't do these things, and it has nothing to do with her and everything to do with the fact that I believe I am better off without the influence of corporate media in my life.

She's nothing out of the ordinary when it comes to tv news personalities.

You don't like her DU? Whaaaaah. We don't need to keep hearing about it.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:22 PM
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77. So we should shut up about media bias and catapulting?
In general, or just because Couric is a woman?

She is another criminal facilitator of the bush cabal. She has shown her true stripes and she is going to be subject to the same scrutiny that tweety and loofah boy and lush and the rest of the whores get.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:03 PM
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30. I don't think you understand why people dislike her.
I've watched her very blatantly and nastily attack any democrat on her show, while fawning over republicans. I think she can be fun sometimes, but her lighter pieces do not override her very harsh bias in political interviews.

Rather doesn't matter. Couric's education-level isn't the point. It's her. Maybe she'll be different on CBS, but I'm not holding my breath for it.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:07 PM
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31. As a woman and former journalist
I am digusted that she was given this job.

Thoroughly disgusted.

It's not a matter of liking or disliking her. Being an anchor journalist should require JOURNALISM SKILL AND INTEGRITY.

She has neither.

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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:30 PM
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40. Go dig up her bio
You'll find that she won an Emmy for her "hard news" work she did at the DC NBC affiliate. She's also worked the "hard news" beat at CNN and ABC.

The Today Show was her way of getting ahead and making money. Yes, it required her to be perky and bubbly(which seems to be a lot of peoples' reasons for disliking her), so she did what was required of her. After all, do you really want there seriousness and solemnity of somebody like Cronkite or Wallace with your morning cup?

So I say give her a chance. Who knows what she'll turn out to be.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:05 PM
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49. Her bio and awards don't mean diddly
Seriously. All kinds of crappy news personalities passing themselves off as journalists are winning awards. So what.

My opinion of her is based on 25 years of news experience on my part. I actually know what I'm talking about.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:26 PM
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53. Hey, that's your opinion
We all have one. Personally, I'll wait until she is actually on the air at CBS before I'll pass judgement. I've never been one to pre-judge, but hey, that's just me:shrug:

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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:04 PM
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70. She's been on the air for 15+ years
on NBC, but you claim I'm pre-judging her? :rofl:

Whatever.
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Chiyo-chichi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:26 PM
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54. Did the Today Show "require" her
to try to force people to say that Bush's poll numbers were going to rise because of good economic news - or cut them off if they deigned to criticize Bush?

'Cause I can give you a good example of a time when she did just that.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:07 PM
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73. Now, now, soonerhoosier
facts are not welcome in this thread. :evilgrin:

I've been chastized for being unwilling to "give her a chance"...as if the woman hasn't been on the air for more than 15 years already. :eyes:

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Chiyo-chichi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:23 PM
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86. hee-hee
:hi:
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:20 PM
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94. No, they don't like her because she pushes Republican talking points.
Why can't the rah-rah Katie people understand this?
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:43 PM
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42. Since you are holding her to your high standard...
Will you also now weigh in with equal passion about all the other "anchors" and their qualifications and why they have never upset you that they have their jobs?
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:07 PM
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50. Can you find one I've defended here?
I've been on DU a long, long time. If you can find one I've defended and post a link, I'll be happy to discuss it. Good luck.

I have no use for most of them. I do like Amanpour. Of course, she gets very little air time on the U.S. pravda networks.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:39 PM
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57. All I'm asking is to give Katie a chance.
The anchor, in reality, really is only a face to the news organization. The CBS news group, in my opinion, is head over heels a finer crowd journalistically than that of NBC or ABC. If Katie brings more Americans to a better news group, that's good news.

In any event, I think that she deserves a chance. And I think that she will be as good, if not better, than the other two anchors.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #57
71. She's had 15+ years
to show us what she's made of.

She's more than had her chance.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:48 PM
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32. I don't understand all the hostility, if both the Freepers and
DU dislike her she must be doing something right. I think it is the job of news reporters to report the news and don't try and tell us what to think. A news reporter should really be "fair and balanced" like Faux (claims) to be. I have heard she was unfair when she interviewed John Kerry, I didn't see it, even myself that voted for John Kerry am still confused as to what his stace on the issues were. I thought he was a very poor candidate and ran a very ineffective campaign from the get go and was actually surprised at how well he did. The Democratic party keeps doing the same thing every election and expects different results.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:06 PM
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66. Word!
You should read some of the shit the freep-types are posting on Yahoo. "Hard Left Anchor" "Liberal Mouthpiece"

I get such a kick out of the people blowing their tops about her.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:24 PM
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69. Double Word
Stop your pathetic whining. Freepers hate her too. Get over it.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 11:02 AM
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98. Freepers and DUers both disliked:
The bankruptcy bill
The eminent domain decision
CAFTA
Corporations "shedding" their pension obligations

Therefore these must be good things? :shrug:
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:11 PM
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33. Nice post.
:thumbsup:
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:33 PM
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34. I am willing to give her a chance, but I'm expecting just more of
the same old crap for news.
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:15 PM
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36. I've stayed out of this, until now.
I personally couldn't care less one way or the other.
But one thing I do remember was how cruelly the rw treated Katie when Clinton was in office.
They said all of the things that are being said about her now, on DU.



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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:20 PM
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37. Excellent observation!
And you're exactly right.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #36
43. So true.
And thanks for reminding us.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:21 PM
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38. I really can't understand what the big deal is about her going to CBS.
I could care less. I have never even seen her on the Today show.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:28 PM
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39. I'm not a big fan, but....
I'd agree to give her a chance to prove herself. Will she change her attitude in a different corporate setting?

Since I don't watch the Today Show, I haven't developed the hatred some feel. Although, from what I've heard of her recent antics, I can understand that feeling.
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Iblis Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:51 PM
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45. Actually, Navy SEALs DO rock...
Really. I've known and seen them in action. Great guys.

Oh, and Katie Couric is everything that is wrong with corporate pseudo-journalism.

the end
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:52 PM
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46. I'm just jealous that she earns more in one day than I do in a year.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:53 PM
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61. She makes what I do in a year before LUNCH.
All for looking perky, reading a scrolling teleprompter screen, and regurgitating the Bush Line.

She's a symptom, not the cause, I'll give her that much.

Still can't get "Dirty Laundry" out of my ears, though...
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onecent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:53 PM
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47. You can watch her all you want-- my husband and I have watched
CBS news for 20 years...and we will NOT watch Katie Couric..

Actually we used to watch her every morning until the day she interviewed Michael Moore about his movie. Never again have I turned to her show in the morning.

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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:56 PM
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48. Nice Post . n/t
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:14 PM
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51. Then you haven't seen her go after the critics of this insane adm.
and suck-up to those who are part of it. She does it All The Time!
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Chiyo-chichi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:29 PM
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55. Yes she does.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5503815

Jim Cramer is no heavy-hitting political pundit, but this incident was very telling.
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DrunkenMaster Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:42 PM
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58. what a joke
So you "salute" a fake journalist who is paid millions for her vacant smile. Good foryou.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:01 PM
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64. Good one!
I'm their freaking target demographic-the stay at home mom. Katie makes me hurl. She fiddles while Rome burns. While this country gets eaten up-her kids don't have to go to war-her kids will never have to face having an unwanted pregnancy while they can't afford an abortion and even if her kid is GAY-well money changes everything. This country is being destroyed and to call yourself a journalist and smile for the team-well this stay at home mom stopped watching the TODAY show a long time ago. And now she's going to befoul CBS. I will never watch her their either. She was shameful on the campaign 2004. She is responsible. If you peddle lies, you are complicit.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:45 PM
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59. I'm with ya! I salute her too!
Cmon guys! It takes something SPECIAL to be a no-integrity-bobblehead-card-reading-fake-blonde-giggly-leg-showing-no-brain-republican-whore and STILL pull jillions of dollars outta CBS.

Talk about overcoming adversity!
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:55 PM
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62. Why couldn't they have chosen Kelly Rippa
And she could've worn those short skirts and look so cute.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:33 PM
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80. I'd rather see someone like Lara Logan promoted to this slot...
and she's better looking than Katie too. But then she probably doesn't match their target demographic to appeal to older folks I guess.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:59 PM
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63. David, I part compny with you over this issue.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:05 PM
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65. So marry the liar then. n/t
n/t
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:20 PM
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67. After seeing her attempt to carve up John Kerry,....
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 03:22 PM by pinniped
it was very clear she had a nasty agenda.

May our avian friends shit on her some more.

Oh ya, she wasn't the least bit entertaining on her Will & Grace appearance.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:21 PM
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68. She did call Annie Coulter on the carpet too.
She's ok in my book for that alone.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:24 PM
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95. But only because Coulter went after Katie herself
and insulted her by comparing her to Eva Braun.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:07 PM
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72. I say good for Katie getting this gig--but I also don't think she will
bring CBS News to #1. Though she may give ABC a run for their money.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:19 PM
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75. She's not technically the first woman to anchor one of the big three...
She is, however, the first woman to be the sole anchor of one of the big three.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:20 PM
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76. Yep, she played us like a fiddle.
Here we were wondering why she was swinging to the right so severely, never realizing that the more we pummeled her for her right-wing, conservative politics, the higher her marketability in a right-wing media world.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:37 PM
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82. LOL my feelings excactly n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:22 PM
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78. Katie who?
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:57 PM
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84. ...What are you talking about? NT
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:59 PM
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85. After Couric treated the Democratic candidates with blatant disrespect
and swarmed all over the repukes, defending the indefensible in Bush on many occassions, you cannot be serious? And to even mention Peter Jennings, in the same breath as Couric is offensive. When did Katie EVER risk her life to report the news? She is NOT a journalist.
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:09 PM
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87. She is in with the Bushes........
A two bit not a journalist!
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:17 PM
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88. damn i'm glad you said this... and said it so well!
i don't watch tv in the morning so i have no opinion on couric but the bits i catch in other media. today i heard a great piece on NPR about her where they discussed the "lightweight" stereotype of morning tv. someone pointed out that tom brokaw started on morning shows.

her bio is amazing. i hate morning tv. but i'm excited that maybe she could do some good journalism.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:23 PM
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89. Yay for Katie! She's not quite as awful as those other people!
Er, uh...wait a minute. :think:

Is this really the best choice we get?
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:11 PM
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90. If they had chosen...
Matt Lauer my reponse would have been identical; vapid stooge.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:34 PM
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91. Most of the MSM is corrupted to the point of irrelevance
I liken CouricGate to stirring a bowl of shit. It is still a bowl of shit. It really doesn't matter if she was Edward Frickin' Murrow or Barbie the Newscaster Doll, she ain't running the show. The networks and cable networks have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt tha they are deeply involved in covering for the criminal BushCo regime.

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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:45 PM
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92. So should we ask the gossip columnist from people to become
editor of the Washington Post now?

She may turn out to be a good teleprompter's puppet but she'll never be a journalist unless she walks out from behind the desk, takes her pumps off, and gets her feet dirty in the real world for a while.

she may also have good intentions, but she'll never actually understand the implications of her questions otherwise. Her "tough" questions of the opposition party (whichever it may be) come off as a power party's cheerleader. IMHO. I'm not sure if this is the type of journalism that CBSnews needs as its anchor. Either way we can thank the corporate media goods for producers, editors, and correspondents because they'll write the script for her.
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:48 PM
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93. She.is.a.regime.whore.
Like Shepard Smith, Brit Hume, the CNN Fembots and the like.

I will not support her.

CBS just went into the sewer for money.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 11:03 AM
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99. If Katie has any sense
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 11:06 AM by iconoclastNYC
She'll see the tide is turning towards honesty and openess. She should shock the world by reporting hard news.
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