There was no Grand Jury in the Dick Cheney shooting incident!

[Catrina]

Dick Cheney shot a man in a hunting incident. When the police were notified, they sent a detail out to do their job, which was to investigate the incident. When they got there, they were turned away and told someone would call them later.

They left and did not come back until the following day. What happened in the meantime? Was a crime committed? Most likely the shooting was an accident. But if the shooter was drinking, that would be a crime. However, we'll never know, because by the time the police were allowed in, it was too late. The evidence was gone. There's reason to believe also that there was an attempt to cover up the fact that Cheney was drinking.

But there was no outcry for an investigation, not even from Democrats, who are now demanding that Cynthia McKinney be 'treated like everyone else'. The local police did not spend time 'investigating the incident' for over a week. Nor did they send the case to a Grand Jury.

I wonder what would have happened had Cynthia McKinney accidentally shot someone and then told the cops when they came to investigate that they should 'come back tomorrow'?

I wonder what Democrats would have done if it had been Cynthia and not Cheney ~ we know what the right would have done, they're doing it now.

One thing we don't have to wonder. Cheney got off scott free, with not even an objection from the left. His victim has buckshot in his body.

Cynthia, on the other hand, did not get off. The incident is going before a federal Grand Jury. The Rightwing machine made sure of it. And the left lent a hand. Cynthia McKinney fought for the truth. She did when it was dangerous to do and she received no backing from Democrats most of the time. We loved her for it. For her courage, for using her voice to ask the questions we wanted to ask.

We never heard her tell a lie, or accept lies from the PTBs. Now, her word is being questioned. And an anonymous police statement has become gospel and enough to indict and convict her in the minds of some who might have given her the benefit of the doubt until the facts were all available.

The Chief of Police backs up Cynthia's version of the incident btw. The cop remains anonymous. Many on the left already KNOW that Cynthia is guilty. Of something. No one seems to be wondering why the cop is still in hiding.

Don't anyone tell me that the left is about treating everyone the same way, or believes that no one is above the law. Their reaction to these two incidents proves otherwise.

Tonight Rove, Tom Delay et al are smiling ~ over the next few weeks and months as real criminals in the Republican party are indicted, enter guilty pleas, and go to jail, Rove has his distraction. He gets to kill two birds with one stone, he gets the woman who stood up to him when the rest of her party, terrified, remained silent and he uses her to distract the media from his own party's criminal activities as they unfold.

We may have one less voice to speak out against the Carlyle Group, Rumsfeld's war, 9/11 and all the other crimes they committed against the American people soon.

In case she reads these boards, I just want to thank her for all she has done ~ I won't forget how thrilling it was four years ago to hear one voice ask for answers for the 9/11 families. How soon we forget.

[Horse with no Name]

1. "I wonder what would have happened had Cynthia McKinney accidentally shot

someone"...
No doubt, she would be riding the lightning.

[Horse with no Name]

2. Oh and let's not forget the biggest thing of all

WHY haven't we seen the videotapes?
If they were incriminating to Ms. McKinney, no doubt that Faux would be running them sunup to sundown.
That, to me, is one of the most important things that is being ignored in this case.

[Catrina]

6. I absolutely agree ~ I read that there is a video tape, but that it stops

before the incident occurs ~ not sure if that's true, but if it is, how convenient!

The other strange thing is the cop. Why hasn't he been identified? Does he have something to hide? Maybe he's a freeper. Since the case is now going to a GJ I think we ought to demand to know his identity ~

[fooj]

12. Yes! Release the tapes.

It seems like a very simple way to resolve this. They WON'T show the tapes because TAPES DON'T LIE!

[Catrina]

13. Yes, you're right, about the video, and the cop. Why are they hiding him?

[EST]

3. We can't hope for consistency, witness the fact that

asshat sen. Specter has sworn in every single witness in the many, many hearings he's chaired in the last few months but one, obstinately refusing to put Gonzo the liar under oath, no matter the logic and pressure.

[Catrina]

4. True, but maybe if Democrats had been more like Cynthia, had kicked

up more of a fuss, we might have had more consistency ~ She certainly tried, but without much backing from her party ~ and it looks like they are going to remain silent again. The rightwing would be screaming if this were happening to one of theirs. They would be demanding a grand jury for the Cheney affair, if the situation were reversed. In a way you have to admire them for that loyalty ~

Cynthia can expect no such loyalty or gratitude from her party. She is on her own, but then she always was ~ which is why we have this criminal administration ~

[Neil Lisst]

5. You're right, and it's a measure of the societal cognitive dissonance

A child perv had one of the highest jobs at Homeland Security. He was in charge of the travel services. Where is the outrage at his boss Chertoff?

Bush cannot competently run government.

[radio4progressives]

7. So Rove sent out the dittohead Squad to Target Mckinney

and it's happening right here on Du land!
:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

[Neil Lisst]

11. it's a good issue for them because it distracts from war deaths, etc.

This helps the right have something to talk about.

[leftchick]

25. IT distracts from everything!

and pisses me off! The repukes and the media always change the subject to their benefit!

:argh:

I would rather see discussed:

Iraq war timetable put out by John Kerry

Censure put out by Russ Feingold

The arsenic in our chicken

The Benzine in our soft drinks

The increase in pollution coal mines are being allowed to emit. INCREASE!!!!!

The last DS Memo showing bush KNEW there were No WMD and wanted to Provoke a war with saddam using a US aircraft painted like a UN aircraft!

The exposure of Plame and cheney and bush's dirty tricks

The GMOs being planted in Wildlife refuges

The muzzling of US scientists and Hiding of Global warming FACTS!

The perverts that pervade this administration as exposed in DHS and their preying on children

The NEW Nuclear arms race the US has just announced....

and on and on it goes. I believe I live in a parallel universe when I turn on my TV.

:cry:

[Neil Lisst]

29. I side with McKinney because that's the kind party hack I am!

but she could have defused this early, instead of throwing gasoline on the fire

[Catrina]

14. Yes, it seems that way. How could he not? It was way too tempting, after

all, even the left was slamming her. Right here on DU even. Well, they got what they wanted. Those who posted that they would not 'let someone off the hook because she has a D next to her name'!!

I was shocked to see so many posts, (many with low post counts, I have to admit, but many DUers also) here, who had already concluded that she had something wrong ~

I share your feelings of sadness ~ another great progressive voice, silenced and with the help of her own party ~ I was so afraid this would happen .... :cry:

[Catrina]

16. Speaking of Chertoff, and Brownie, Bush and Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld

Fema, and all the others who were responsible for the criminal negligence that resulted in the tragedy of Katrina. The thousands of missing and dead. The children who died of dehydration and the old people who could not get out.

We heard report after report of what can only be called criminal neglect of an entire region of the US, covering three states.

The media, for a brief and shining moment, did their jobs and as a result, probably some lives were eventually saved as the administration was shamed into finally taking action.

But then, it went off the news and was forgotten as Cheney, Bush, with the help of the now indicted (not for this) Safavian, gobbled up all the contracts to rebuild the area.

We saw the horrible pictures of US citizens being eaten by dogs on US streets ~ bodies are still being recovered seven months later, left to rot by this administration's total neglect and disinterest.

But no one, except Brownie, was held accountable. Again, there were no cries for investigations or Grand Juries ~ a crime of major proportions, and we watched Democrats being 'diplomatic' rather than outraged.

But they are convening a Grand Jury because a black, outspoken Congresswoman pushed, with her arm, an incompetent cop who should have recognized, 'off of me' so that she could reach the ID she was carrying. And the Dems again are silent.

[radio4progressives]

8. Excellent Rant!

This needs to be sent to the goddam media!

Rate this puppy up!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

9. Actually your best point is hidden in your rant

The fact that their leader resigned in disgrace this week is being overshadowed by this uncorroborated non-story.

Not only did I kick, but nominate. Excellent points, all.

[Catrina]

20. Thank you, and you are so right. Tom Delay, and he had the gall to

say he would ask to have Cynthia censured for bad behavior in Congress, or some such nonsense ~ but his own legal troubles were not the focus of the news anymore. We really do play into their hands ~ every time. I hope the Rev. Al gets on this case ~ the rest of the Dems certainly won't. Although it's an excellent opportunity for them to start screaming 'hypocrisy' and where's the Cheney Grand Jury? *sigh* ~ I can dream!

[Initech]

10. It sucks that our legal system only favors rich white conservatives

As of lately. While I'm not defending the act of assaulting someone with a cell phone, this pisses me off. I cant wait until these assholes go back to the toilet of political obscurity that spawned them.

[NVMojo]

15. Gawd, I am so sick of these slimebags ...

...no wonder Bruce Willis was on Letterman last night with fake buckshot all over the right side of his face and bald head and talking about being in a hunting accident like it was no big deal. He was making fun of the total lack of issue by the Bushhumpers over this Cheney bushit!!!

[Catrina]

18. Amazing isn't it, like Bush making fun of not finding the WMD, which so

many have died for. But they take Cynthia removing the body of an incompetent cop from her person so she could get to her ID, and then go about the people's business, VERY SERIOUSLY! And the worst of it all is, we have Dems who take it just as seriously, while they too, ignore the crimes of this administration.

We could use this Grand Jury farce as a lesson and start getting active. Is it too late to start making a stink with the local cops in Texas who did not investigate the Cheney shooting? What would it take to start a movement to get that case before a GJ and get some of those witnesses under oath??

Remember his girlfriend TOLD us he was drinking. There were lots of other witnesses. Under oath, we might actually get the truth about that incident. A man was seriously injured. I think if what Cynthia did is being this seriously, then we need to start getting the Dems to put some pressure on the cops down in Texas to 'treat everyone the same way, because no one is above the law'.

I hope I start seeing Dems and those DUers who helped the right get Cynthia, help get Cheney also before a grand jury ~ otherwise, I'm going to wonder why they got so steamed up over Cynthia ~

[SoCalDem]

17. Because "Ole Whitty" more or less said he deserved it and apologized

for getting in the way of Deadeye's gun....and because the stonewalled the whoile thing for long enough to have all the comedians run with it..and it was transformed into a "joke..a prank..a little oopsie among friends"..

The capitol police thing was escalated from the get-go.. Even though they are not technically political appointees, they DO have their favorites.. Apparently the one who was involved in this is a Bush-bot, and was probably called within the hour by the swiftboat liar people..

It's ALL about rushing microphones to other dems to get them on the record before they really knew much about it. Of course they would be reluctant to say too much..(for all they knew there's a tape that would contradict whatever they said about it...so they shut up...and of course their silence is translated into "non-support")

This kind of thing has NO way out..and it's just what repubes love. They HAVE the media in their pockets and can run with this and turn it into a BIG DEAL..and no matter which way it shjakes out, they can make it look bad for dems..

I wish CM would have called the press right away and issued a statement..accepted 50% "blame" for overrreacting, and publicly stated that she did not hold any ill feelings towards the policeman for "accosting" her.. That would have thrown the whole thing BACK at THEM, and made them look silly if they continued it.

[autorank]

19. No, of course not. He only shot a guy in the face. McKinney, on the

other hand, poked some guy with a cell phone who grabbed her. Can't imagine that they'd call that, no harm no foul. Of course not. Our judicial system is a pathetic joke. "Above the law" for the powerful, absurd law for those not so well protected.

America is a gated community for the super wealthy and a free for all for the rest of us.

I'm disgusted.

[radfringe]

21. nuff said...

meanwhile - GOPer talking heads are trying to downplay the Department of Homeland pedophiles -- "let's not jump to conclusions over ALLEGED charges..."
Doyle's lawyer is now claiming Doyle is a victim of depression....so it's not his fault he's out there trying to bang little girls. Don't you love "family values"?

[Swamp Rat]

22. Great toon!

:D :hi:

[Catrina]

31. Fantastic cartoon. Can we send it to the media? Or better yet, send it to

Congress ~ it makes the point perfectly ~ :applause:

I wonder what it would take to get an investigation going on the Cheney shooting? There was not even a motion in Congress, as there apparently will be regardiing Cynthia, to even give him a slap on the wrist.

He also is holding stock in Halliburton, and Sen. Lautenberg did start an investigation into this in the Senate, but nothing has come of it, and it sure wasn't mentioned much in the MSM.

Maybe, in light of Cynthia's troubles, an email campaign asking what happened with that investigation. Eg, we know he's still holding the stock, flaunting the law, but says it's going to charity! Since then, the value of the stock has sky-rocketed as a result of the war. Conflict of interest?? And the reason for the rules against the possibility of anyone involved in making decisions to go war, benefiting from that decision.

Katrina, Lies about War, Conflict of Interest, A cover-up in a shooting accident and on and on, but nothing happens. Cynthia meanwhile has apologized for her part in the incident. Cheney has never apologized for the lies, the conflict of interest, the hiding of the Energy Meeting minutes and on and on.

I doubt her apology will stop the GJ investigation ~ and I doubt anything will be done about Cheney.

[radfringe]

34. you are more than welcome to grab/paste it

and send it around

[Catrina]

35. Thank you, it's great!!

Sometimes a picture is better than a thousand words ~ :-)

[tyedyeto]

23. Bravo!

Shooting a man in the face doesn't even require further investigation if you're the VP but getting poked/punched/hit with a cell phone by a small black Congresswoman gets everyone in an uproar...

Want a ride in my swiftboat?

[zbdent]

24. Yes, but he has little hair

and didn't change it . . . :sarcasm::eyes::silly:

[marions ghost]

26. They've been waiting for Cynthia to slip up

so they can swiftboat her. Hope she is tough enough to weather it.

The Cynthia McKinney card is being played now.

Your comparison to the Cheney incident is to the point.

[novalib]

27. GREAT Post!

Thanks for saying what I feel.

And Cynthia, if you are reading this board -- THANK YOU and KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

[leftyladyfrommo]

28. Well, it was between two consenting adults

so what's the problem?

[hootinholler]

30. 2 minor points:

1) There was no buckshot involved. Birdshot, yes, buckshot would have killed at that range.

2) I've still heard no repercussions from Cheney's illegal license status. That should be a per bird killed fine at a minimum with possible jail time. I know I would be fined for the same infraction.

Otherwise, yes, apparently Cheney is above the law.

-Hoot

[Catrina]

32. Thanks for the correction and the additional info on the license. I can't

edit now, but I'll try to remember in the future.

That's interesting regarding the license. I thought this was something no one would be fined for. The media dismissed it. I wonder what they would have done with that, had it been Cynthia? I imagine even the NRA would be screaming! But they too were silent on the Cheney shooting.

I wonder how Mr. Whittington is doing? We've heard nothing about him since he left the hospital and apologized for making himself a target.

[hootinholler]

36. Illegal taking of game is a serious offense.

It's known as poaching. I'll try to find the texas regulation.

-Hoot

[Rocknrule]

33. The thing that pisses me off more than anything over the past 6 years

is how Republicans get special treatment under the law just for having the same political views as the president. Remember we said if Bush or Cheney shot someone they would get away with it? It's happened. I read a post yesterday where some Bushbot drunk on Koolaid said that even if Bush raped a nun, he would have a good reason because he is God's right hand man and because Bush, like Jesus, never sins. I honestly think that if McVeigh had bombed OKC today, he would have gotten away with it because he was a registered Republican. Not only that, the victims would've apologized for putting the building and their loved ones in the way of his truck bomb.