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AGENDA21 Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:53 AM
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US slams Europe on Muslim integration
The failure to integrate Muslim minorities in Europe constitutes a security risk for the US, the US state department’s undersecretary for European affairs Daniel Fried told a US senate committee.

Mr Fried said unemployment, discrimination and lack of integration among Europe’s Muslim communities had created an "audience" open to extremist messages, according to Reuters.

He added that some European countries’ far-reaching freedom of expression laws helped radical elements to spread anti-democratic ideologies.

"Add to this a deeply negative perception and a distorted perception of US foreign policy among Western European Muslim communities, and relative freedom of movement across the Atlantic, and you have a particularly dangerous mix," he said.

http://euobserver.com/9/21327
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:58 AM
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1. anything to tell somebody else what to do.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:58 AM
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2. Not, "failure to integrate Muslims is hurting Muslim communities..."
It's BAD FOR THE U.S. Our interests rule the world. So what if it's causing strife in your country, get it fixed so it doesn't affect us.

Is there any wonder nobody can stand this country?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:10 AM
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8. we are telling Europe that they are not doing enough to fight terrorism.



......Mr Freid also said some Europe-based Muslim militants were directly linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network and associated groups such as Abu Musab al Zarqawi's followers in Iraq or northern Africa's Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat.

His colleague, the State Department counterterrorism coordinator Henry Crumpton, who was speaking at the same forum, said "It is now well-known that the terrorist cell that conducted the 9/11 attacks did much of its planning from a base in Europe."

"Five years later, and despite many counterterrorism successes, violent Islamic extremism in Europe continues to pose a threat to the national security of the United States and our allies", Mr Crumpton added.

"Some European countries continue to argue that terrorism is merely - or mainly - a criminal problem," Mr Crumpton concluded.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:59 AM
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3. the message I get from this is the the US is afraid more Muslums will come
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 07:00 AM by rodeodance
to US if not 'integrated' into European society. Anyone else get this message?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:01 AM
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4. That's always a subtle message...
whether it be the Mexican border OR Haitians on boats....
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:05 AM
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6. thanks. was just wondering
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:05 AM
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5. my my--look what Hollad does to prepare immigrants for Liberal Dutch
society.

Several European countries have however already introduced control measures for immigration, such as language tests and tougher visa and border rules.

In Denmark, immigrants who arrive to the country for marriage have to be 24 years old - a tailor-made rule aimed at preventing forced marriages among the large Muslim immigrant minority.

The Netherlands has gone a step further, introducing new entry laws that require potential immigrants to take not only language but also "culture" exams in order to live in the country.

To prepare immigrants for Dutch liberal society, possible newcomers have to watch a film picturing a sunbathing topless woman, gay men kissing and the immigrant "ghettos" that may await immigrants coming into the country.

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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:08 AM
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7. Well, gosh. Tell us something new
So that's why. Great observation. Who would have guessed?

Yes, mistakes were made. Mistakes were made in every single European contry. The mistakes are manifold, the reasons diverse; hardly two European countries have the same integration problems, just similar symptoms.
Sometimes it is people from former colonies, sometimes not. Quite frequently the problem is not as obvious as it seems. Take Germany: the immigration happened in the 60s and 70s, the second generation was considered completely integrated. But the third isn't. Why is difficult to answer; recent immigration from northern Africa is often blamed.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:34 AM
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9. but I thought the Presnit said that Freedom was a good thing - and that he
wasn't wiretapping without a warrant either.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:44 AM
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10. The US needs to concentrate on it's own mistakes....
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 08:45 AM by BooScout
...instead of having the unmitigated gall to tell everryone else where they fucked up. Yes mistakes have been made in Europe and countries do what they can to correct or adjust them...... but mistakes have and are being made in the US as well. Big mistakes. Letting Bush steal the elections, use the threat of terrorism to terrorize his own damned country and appointing idiots like this twit Daniel Fried who woulsn't know diplomacy if it reached out and smacked his fat head springs formost to my mind.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:46 AM
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11. The U.S. has created a concentration camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba,
which houses only Muslims.
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