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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:13 AM
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If Bush Authorized the Leak, Does that mean no crime was committed?
I know a crime WAS committed here, but the problem is, Bush has already broken the law (FISA/NSA Domestic Spying) and Congress has said, "eh, Ok, we'll just change the law for yah Bush!". And any amount to hold Bush accountable, even something as simple as Censure (with NO LEGAL BINDING) would not even past through this Congress.

So I fear, that while an injustice was done, the laws were broken, there were clear VICTIMS here, that America will say, "Ok, your Highness, Lord Bush, it's ok for you to break the law... HELL, just MAKE IT UP AS YOU GO ALONG."

It's truly a sad day since our Democracy is now clearly a Dictatorship. Bush got his wish: "It'd be a helluva lot easier if America were a dictatorship, so long as I'm the ditcator" -- Bush.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:14 AM
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1. If that is their defense, they should have used it right from the start.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:19 AM
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7. This is the #1 question that should be asked
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 09:20 AM by Norquist Nemesis
every time the Matthews, Scarboroughs, Limbaughs, and Hewitts of the echo chamber defend Bush on this one.

Why didn't they use it as their defense from the start?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:22 AM
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8. That's easy. They covered up so Bush could get re-elected.
Now that he's in, and if no crime was committed, he can't be impeached.

All wrapped up in a nice little package with a golden bow.
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:35 AM
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9. They should have but...
if you look at their track record it isn't the way they operate. They make the shit up as they go along. They essentially wait until they get busted then they stonewall until someone in the bunch can come up with the mother of all excuses and the public swallows it hook line and sinker.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:14 AM
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2. I may be wrong
But it sounds like the same shit that Nixon tried (I AM THE LAW)
before he got beaten back to his dark cave.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:15 AM
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3. See everyone laughed when he said it....
He is stupid...but when he makes statements like that I always believe there is a hint of truth in whatever he says....He wants this country to be dictatorship and he does not want to abdicate his throne.....
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:16 AM
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4. Why, yes it does! Why do you ask?
:evilgrin:
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:16 AM
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5. Remember it's not the original crime....
it's the coverup!

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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:02 AM
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12. That's right. Remember, it's not the sex, it's the lying about it.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:31 AM
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17. I was referring to Watergate...
but ok.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:48 AM
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18. You're right. That's what got Nixon on Watergate, too.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:16 AM
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6. Silly you
Everyone knows that there are no laws that apply to scrubbie.
So, of course, no crime was committed. That is...if scrub authorized it. Which he couldn't have, since he said he didn't. But then... that was three years ago. So maybe he remembers it differently...which is NOT the same as a flip-flop.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:50 AM
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11. Your post reminded me of Catch 22. Funny, frustrating, maddening
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:46 AM
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10. You know who Bush reminds me of?
There's this episode of The Twilight Zone where this child has the powers to do anything. And his family is completely terrified of him.

Joe Dante directed a remake of the episode for the TZ film. The boy proves that he can do everything even make his own family disappear and have everything just the way he wants...
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:03 AM
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14. Is that where he sends them to the cornfield?
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:18 AM
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15. see...
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:03 AM
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13. Using his philosophy, yes, because it wasn't during a time of war.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:19 AM
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16. Notice what ho-hum play this is getting? Oh well, if Shrub O.K.ed it,
well then, it's FINE! since we all know Shrub can break any law. Like he said about the Constitution: "Why do you all keep throwing the Constitution in my face? It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"

And when he signs bills he makes statements that he reserves the right to not abide by this or that part.
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