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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:40 AM
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Stars & Stripes rebuttals to "Bush is the worst president in US history"
These two letters are in rebuttal to "Bush's Sorry Legacy," printed in Stars & Stripes on Monday.
http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=36207

I love how the male letter writers blast "she" for this and "she" for that. "She" quoted Columbia/Harvard econ. professors. What do these two jokers have to offer? Tired diatribes regurgitated by the RW choking-heads.

It won't take long before these writers are slammed by others, particularly those on 3rd tours who are stop-lossed. There's nothing like a war of words in Stars & Stripes. Let's get the issues out in the open, and make people think, rather than shop, for a change. What better way to make Bush blotch and gray just a little bit more?

Anyone wishing to write their own letter to Stripes may send it here, with name, address and phone number:

letters@stripes.com
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http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=36279

Quit whining, offer solution

I suggest that the writer of “Bush’s sorry legacy” (letter, April 3) get her facts straight before giving us her liberal propaganda.

“The Long War” is going to be long. I don’t remember anybody saying that this war was going to be easy or short. When President Bush decided to invade Iraq, with Congress’ approval, he didn’t set a timetable or promise this was going to be a short war so he could satisfy the CATO Institute, focus groups and polls. A withdrawal of troops from Iraq before the mission is accomplished and Iraqi forces have total control over the security of that country will be like putting a welcome mat out for terrorists.

After Sept. 11, 2001, Bush made it clear that all terrorists and those who harbor them will be targets of the United States and defeated. Saddam Hussein is a terrorist and was collaborating with terrorists, including al-Qaida. His regime was out of control, and he was a serious threat to his neighbors and would have been a threat to the entire world. the reason why the Iraq war took place, not because of oil, like the letter writer was implying.

Bush is right when he says that the only way the enemy can defeat us is psychologically. They are waiting for us to back down like we did in the first Persian Gulf War.

It is a noble and worthy cause that is being fought, and someday, I believe that people such as the letter writer will understand that. If you don’t like what is being done in Iraq and elsewhere, offer an alternative solution. If you don’t have one, all you are doing is whining, and that is not a solution to anything.

Spc. Matthew B. Cravens
Hanau, Germany


Bush’s awesome legacy

I just read “Bush’s sorry legacy” and it is disheartening to see how someone could feel that way after they know the facts.

I am so sick of people jumping on the hindsight wagon of “I told you so” after the fact. Armchair quarterbacks at best. I can sound really smart after I know the outcome of an event. Go back and pick apart a plan with all the knowledge of the outcome. That takes no courage, confidence or leadership. President Bush has shown all three.

Bush has taken all the information he has at the time and made a decision. This is what leaders do. He isn’t worried about what poll says what. He just simply (along with his staff) is securing America, as a good president does.

I am here to testify that there have been so many great things accomplished in this country. A people threatened who vote for their own government; a people threatened who volunteer to become policemen or join the Iraqi army; a people threatened who stand firm in not allowing terrorists to take root in their community. The progress list goes on and on, progressing much faster than our own country did in its inception.

Thanks to the letter writer for showing us what she is made of. is very enlightening to know where some Americans stand. Don’t stop them from talking, though, because the more they do, the more you understand their motives. Freedom is beautiful that way also.

Thank you, President Bush, for not being afraid to be a leader.

Capt. Jeff Searcey
Ramadi, Iraq
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:45 AM
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1. The stupid people are in the minority now, and growing fewer
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:45 AM
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2. Two more candidates
For the Iron Cross!!!!!!
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Rude Horner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:50 AM
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3. The guy loses his credibility in the first sentence
He says:

“The Long War” is going to be long. I don’t remember anybody saying that this war was going to be easy or short."

Let me refresh your memory, SPC Cravens

* Feb. 7, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, to U.S. troops in Aviano, Italy: "It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months."

* March 4, Air Force Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, at a breakfast with reporters: "What you'd like to do is have it be a short, short conflict. . . . Iraq is much weaker than they were back in the '90s," when its forces were routed from Kuwait.

* March 16, Vice President Cheney, on NBC's Meet the Press: "I think things have gotten so bad inside Iraq, from the standpoint of the Iraqi people, my belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators. . . . I think it will go relatively quickly, . . . (in) weeks rather than months." He predicted that regular Iraqi soldiers would not "put up such a struggle" and that even "significant elements of the Republican Guard . . . are likely to step aside."

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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:04 PM
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5. he mentions "liberal propaganda" ..
as he continues to spew debunked neo-con talking points, or propaganda, if you will, out the other side of his ass re: Saddam Hussein is a terrorist and was collaborating with terrorists, including al-Qaida. Zero cred.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:32 PM
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7. You forgot "Cakewalk"!!! That word stood out to me, more than
anything else Cheney said, in that "Meet the Press" appearance... Randi Rhodes brings that up all the time!
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Melsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:54 AM
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4. Oh please!
"I don’t remember anybody saying that this war was going to be easy or short."

Aren't there just a ton of quotes that refute this, like Rummy saying it was going to be a cakewalk and the thankful Iraqis would be tossing roses at us?
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:12 PM
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6. So many lies.
Paragraph 2: The "welcome mat" for terrorists has been out since our shit-fer-brains presidunce invaded Iraq (without Congress's approval by the way).

Paragraph 3: Show me evidence of where Saddam collaborated with terrorists please.

Paragraph 4: "back down like we did in the first Persian Gulf war." We did not "back down", we accomplished our mission. Cheney, Rummy, et al, were furious that we did not exceed our mission and take out Saddam.

Sheeesh! Mindless sheep.
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:33 PM
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8. There are too many people who've been saying that Bush is a bad
president from the very beginning of his presidency to play the 20/20 hindsight card.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:33 PM
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9. "don’t remember anybody saying that this war was going to be easy or short
Voters.

The fundamental weakness of any democracy.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:43 PM
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10. Funny, I remember Rummy saying it would be short
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 12:44 PM by AllegroRondo
and something about being greeted with flowers also
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:54 PM
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11. Did Rummy say something about LONG-stemmed roses?
Maybe the writer misunderstood Rummy.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:03 PM
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12. "that is what leaders do"
Another word for "leader" is "fuehrer"

American Presidents are supposed to derive their powers from "the consent of the governed". Which would mean following more polls if those accurately measure the will of the people.
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