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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:45 PM
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PREDICTION: McCain runs as incumbent in '08.
my drive-by prognostication. ;)
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:46 PM
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1. Stranger things have happened... n/m
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:53 PM
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14. Bush 'pulls a Nixon'?
Hey, could happen.
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:47 PM
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2. How does he get into the White House before then?....n/t
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:49 PM
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3. simple
cheney resigns due to "health reasons"

bush appoints mccain, he is approved by congress

Bush then either resigns or is impeached and removed from office.

McCain becomes president and runs as incumbent.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:50 PM
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6. Gerry Ford all over again?
:shrug: Yikes.
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:52 PM
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12. Who do you think McCain brings on as a running mate? n/t
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RDU Socialist Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:59 PM
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17. Tom Delay
he will have some free time.


This isn't going to happen...
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:51 PM
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8. like this:
1) Darth Cheney resigns/crashcarts.
2) Shrub appoints McCain.
3) Shrub resigns.
4) McCain incumbent president in '08.

There is the question of Congressional approval of McCain.

This is exactly how the Nixon-Agnew-Ford switcharoo went down.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:49 PM
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4. Not. Gonna. Happen.
Give me the names of 67 Senators that would vote to impeach Bush and Cheney.

...or do you honestly think both of those guys will resign?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:52 PM
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10. I think Cheney will take the hit for this latest Libby mess
...and get a Cap Weinberger pardon from Monkey. McCain takes the number TWO slot, and runs as the heir apparent in 08. His running mate? Condi? Jeb? Brownback? Fristie???
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Chiyo-chichi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:59 PM
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16. That is more likely than Bush going anywhere.
Unfortunately.
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:59 PM
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18. Brownback Mountain would be a really good choice to cater to fundies.
If that's the path McCain has been taking. Of course, Frist, Delay, and Santorum would all be good mates as well.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:52 PM
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11. No Senators would vote to impeach anybody.
(That's the House of Representatives' job.)

I can't see 67 Senators voting to convict, though, even if impeachment did make it through the House. And I suspect even Bush would resign if he actually thought he'd lose the impeachment case.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:50 PM
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I agree--if anything comes of this mess, Deadeye will resign and take the
hit for the team. Enter Junior Creepy Smirker McCain....the Senate will confirm him 99-0. They stick together in that regard. He's as qualified as anyone, the hearings will be a public BJ.

It's why he's been grinning, a bit sloppy, unrepentant about consorting with Fundies who once wished him dead--he KNOWS...he's known for awhile. And I swear, he has someone by the balls:

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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:50 PM
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5. Or Lieberman
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:50 PM
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7. Interesting observation
The gop today is nothing more than a band of immoral scum. Victory in 2008 is their number one goal and they will do whatever and with whomever to make that happen. I predict that regardless of who the party of lies and garbage nominates, they will go down in flames. There will be no swiftboating of democrats in 2007-08 without instant and intense response. The Dems have opened their eyes and know who/what they are up against. The republicans can not be treated respectfully or with dignity. They are trash and need to be put out by the curb.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:51 PM
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9. I agree. Then Clark/Warner win in 08 n/t
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:53 PM
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13. McCain doesn't want to run as an incumbent.
He can't win the general as the bodies start floating to the surface. He'll be Bush I -- ified, forced to assert that he had no idea what was happening in the adminstration, looking like either a liar or a potted plant.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:03 PM
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20. But the current cabal will be desperate for pardons...
..and will sacrifice the office in '08 to get them.

Have you noticed the increased stroking McCain has been giving them lately? He used to be a "maverick". Now he gives performs public fellatio on * at every possible moment.

He is being groomed to take over the presidency, issue pardons, then run as best he can in '08. He'll probably lose, especially if the public is outraged enough at the current cabal. But the pardons are most important, and I think McCain will do it. Hell, he hugged the shrub even after Rove slandered his family in the South Carolina primary in '00, remember? He'll do a little quid-pro-quo to get a freebie seat in the oval office for 2 years, no doubt.

Unless, of course, Fitz has a Treason charge up his sleeve (doubtful that), which I believe cannot be pardoned(?)
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:56 PM
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15. ChimpCo *NEVER* appoints McCain.
Never, ever, ever.

If there's one thing we've learned in the past five years it's that ChimpCo is unapologetically fascistic right wing. There's absolutely no way they will allow somebody who is perceived as a moderate gain a position which would put him in line for the top job.

If things fall apart and Cheney leaves to allow Chimp to appoint his perceived successor it will be yet another total nutcase, not McCain.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:05 PM
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22. McCain may be "perceived as a moderate, but he isn't one
He has moved way over there. Whether he once was is moot, he certainly has abandoned that ideology.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:14 PM
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24. To ChimpCo, perceptions are reality.
They will never appoint McCain and everybody ought to know that unambiguously.
McCain just does not have the right wing credentials, in spite of his sucking up. It will be somebody else, somebody who has unimpeachable (no play on words intended) right wing credentials.

I can't begin to guess who that might be, but somebody like Sam Brownback (but *not* Brownback) comes to mind.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:01 PM
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19. Only before 2007
Its very likely Rethugs will lose control of one or both houses in Congress in November.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:04 PM
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21. The Bush republicans HATE McCain
I vote for "no way in hell".
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:10 PM
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23. He can run any way he wants, I am still not voting for him! n/t
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:14 PM
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25. Why would they want to get rid of Bush?
I mean, his popularity sucks but is still 25 points higher than Dick Cheney. But then again Dick Cheney is running this administration, which is why I know in my heart that it wasn't Bush who ok'd the leak.

McCain is definately a neo-con but still a bit of a maverick. If you're going by the concept that Bush is impeached and Cheney picks a VP who takes over and then Cheney is impeached - money goes with Condi Rice. They can control her more
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:19 PM
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27. I don't bet on Condi.
She's part of WHIG, and my money's on a conspiracy charge agaist her.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:21 PM
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28. well maybe someone like Bill Frist or Rick Santorum
someone they can control. McCain cannot be controlled
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:35 PM
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30. I think McCain *IS* being controlled.
how else do you explain his bizarre recent actions/statements? Is blind presidential ambition enough? He has a "reputation" as a moderate/maverick, but his public actions/statements/senate voting record prove otherwise.

Either shrubco. has dirt on Mccain and are blackmailing him, OR Mccain want to be potus so bad he'll do anything/anyone.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:16 PM
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26. No, I don't think he would choose McCain to replace Cheney
it would probably be someone like Allen of Virginia--somebody very much like Bush.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:23 PM
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29. I'm betting on Allen/McCain ticket for 2008
He just hasn't faced up to the reality that Falwell (and probably DeLay, too!) will convince him it's the primo spot...I can hear them now: "Just look at Dick!" His eyes will glaze into a dreamy state and his mind will wander into sitting behind the President during the SOTUs.
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