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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:59 PM
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KERRY on Leak Case: "It's About As Serious As It Gets"
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 03:00 PM by kpete
It's about as serious as it gets

MSNBC (snippet from Tweety Show 12:50 pst)

Kerry
If the president indeed authorized the leak of information that was selected, that only made the case and he specifically left out that information that was to the contrary, then the president engaged in the very activity that they have denied all along which is misleading the American people in the case for the war.

Tweety
How serious is that?

Kerry
About as serious as it gets
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:00 PM
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1. CRAP I missed him on Tweety already??
SHIT!
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:01 PM
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2. 5pm EST on MSNBC.
Watch it all then.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:03 PM
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4. Okay
Whew.

Was he supposed to be on the Situation Room today too? Or no?
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:36 PM
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27. He was. Blitzkrieg's questions on the Situation Room were not nearly
as informative as Tweety's though. First time I've watched Hardball in a LONG time. Kerry did an excellent job.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:04 PM
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17. "Hardball' repeats later in the evening.(n/t)
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:02 PM
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3. not to be a dumbass... isn't Tweety done live?
I didn't know the first show was pre-recorded.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:04 PM
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5. Some segments are pre-recorded n/t
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Chiyo-chichi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:06 PM
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8. And Tweety usually does not do a good job with those transitions
between the prerecorded segments. At best, he looks like a deer in the headlights, at worst, I have heard him interrupt himself!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:05 PM
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7. Some interview portions are pre-recorded.
Kerry learned that Tweety is more respectful an interviewer when he's off his set.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:04 PM
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6. Wait a minute - It is Kerry speaking, so Bush must be innocent.
:sarcasm:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:07 PM
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9. Kerry will also be on Wolfie n/t
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:11 PM
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10. About as serious as it gets
Alright Senator, What are we going to do about it? ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:11 PM
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11. I think it blows a hole in the whole
"they saw the same intelligence that I did" theory. If they cherry picked it for the leakers, then they cherry picked it for the law makers too.
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cartach Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:49 PM
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12. A perfect example of fence sitting
But I took heart at what he had to say to Wolf Blitzer today.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:53 PM
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14. How in fuck is that fence-sitting? Please.
"Serious as it gets" is pretty fucking crystal clear to most of us.
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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:11 PM
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19. Kerry didn't go far enough apparently
Serious as it gets sounds like 100% on the seriousness scale. Some will only be happy if Kerry commits to at least 200% serious. :)
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:13 PM
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21. Hahaha
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 05:14 PM by WildEyedLiberal
Let's have a pissing match and analyze who's seriouser - Feingold or Kerry???

Fortunately, both Feingold and Kerry are honorable fighting Dems who are above such inanities and who support each other.

Edit: Yes I know "seriouser" isn't a word - but it should be. ;)
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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:35 PM
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40. Picking a winner
Who ever first says that this is at least twice as serious as a crime could possibly be will be the winner.

Extra credit for making up words if they sound good and are at least 200% serious.

No fence sitting by only considering this a 100% serious matter.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:18 PM
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23. he also must paint himself blue and
run screaming up and down the streets of D.C., in order to satisfy some people.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:31 PM
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25. it's murky under the bridge
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:08 PM
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36. "Dawn take you all!" n/t
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Sparkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:57 PM
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32. Serious crimes are felonies, and jail at the very least is the only way to
be sure. As serious as it gets, means life or death penalty.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:49 PM
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43. You keep forgettting...
Kerry is supposed to start screaming in a vulgrity-laced tirade and demand that Bush come down to the station pronto and "get a hot can of kickass from me!"

Kerry is supposed to go off like Charlie Manson mid-knife plunge into someone's neck and spit into the TV camera, roll his head around like whatshername in the Exorcist and then pound on his chest like King Kong while he screams like Tarzan...Oh and flip the bird and pull his finger up, blow on it like it's a gun and then turn around and moon the camera.

He just can't do enough for some people.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:23 PM
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49. Hahahaha
You forgot that he has to strip naked, cover himself in blue Scottish war paint, and scream "FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM" on the White House lawn before he charges the gates with a sword and shield.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:00 AM
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51. Wasn't he a Co-Sponsor on the Censure motion?
No well he at least supported the Censure motion since it is "as serious as it gets" I'm sure. He didn't support Censure for "as serious as it gets". Hmmmm What does it take?
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:51 PM
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13. impeachable?
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:59 PM
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47. Impeachable on a grand scale
It is a breathtaking abuse of power, beyond anything this republic has ever seen before. They out a CIA NOC operative, making her useless and her cover company as well. They do it to gain partisan advantage so they can start a war of agression against a small country halfway around the world for personal gain and glory.

The whole thing makes Nixon's plumbers seem harmless and his enemies list sane.

BTW, I'm not the least bit surprised that Bush is involved, I'm just surprised that fact ever saw the light of day.

I hope Scooter stays out of small planes long enough to testify at the impeachment proceedings.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:58 PM
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15. Bush in leak case
Mislead my ass he LIED! about going to war plan and simple.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:01 PM
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16. screw impeachable. THIS IS A CAPITAL OFFENSE. IT'S TREASON!
outside of the bfee, people get executed or improsoned for life for outing cia agents.
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Sparkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:00 PM
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33. The RW ASSINATE politicians who cross their lines in the sand. JFK/MLK/X
When the RW operates a campaign to right a wrong, they go into hunter-killer mode and people DIE.
Treason against our WMD investigators overseas!! xxx the only way to be sure.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:05 PM
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18. Kerry why don't you use Treasonous and Impeachable
yes its serious!!!
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:14 PM
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22. Do you ask the same question of Feingold?
He has not used either of those terms to describe Bush's behavior either.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:37 PM
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28. Because as you heard, at this point it is what Libby alledges
that is why Kerry conditioned every answer with "if it's true". As a lawyer, doing otherwise would be wrong. This does need to be investigated.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:13 PM
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20. How serious is that?
It's called fucking TREASON! That's how serious 'that' is.

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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:20 PM
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24. About as serious as Iran-Contra, BCCI
Kerry knows better than many how serious those were, and that not much came of it when those cases were investigated.
Not to be a pessimist, things are different now so there is hope.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:35 PM
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26. very serious......indeed, and in fact, too serious for just Censure.....
I'm on my knees now begging God to please let us win back the house, so that the MF President can be IMPEACHED! That as serious as it should get.....right after election '06!

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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:44 PM
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29. Be careful what you pray for...
You could get President Cheney.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:52 PM
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31. That's ok....cause they both can get investigated.....
Hell, if I'm not supposed to care whether censure could actually pass or not (which it can't currently)....because it's the Principle....than I feel the same way about Impeachment....which is the true fitting punishment for the crimes committed by this administration. Hell, Impeaching Bush and Cheney would just mean the end of the GOP for years to come.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:00 PM
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34. No, it would be Hastert.
Or Condi, depending on the timing.
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Sparkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:01 PM
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35. CONSPIRACY is the case here, both got to go down, hard.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 11:44 AM
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53. Can the VP be impeached or does he get indicted?
If he gets impeached, can he cast the deciding vote in the Senate on whether to convict himself?
Will Chief Justice Roberts sew bars on his judicial robes giving himself symbols of rank?

In any event, we can't start at the top. We have to get rid of Cheney the puppetmaster first.

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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:45 PM
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30. I'll have to watch Tweet at 6:00. Thanks to Kerry for speaking the truth.
God knows we're hearing precious little of that.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:09 PM
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37. About Damn Time
Late, but thank you President Kerry for finally standing up and speaking the truth.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:19 PM
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38. Kerry segment on NOW.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:34 PM
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39. I used to think that stuff that flew out of Tweety's mouth
and collected in the corners of his lips was spittle until I saw him interview Tom Delay the other day, so be careful Mr Kerry, don't get any of that on your clothing or they'll be screaming about semen stained clothing on a Democrat again.. :)

Getting tired of all this smoke and mirrors, high and low hopes, dog and pony show.. it's OVER folks, these assholes have won, they are lawless, will not be imprisoned OR Impeached with the Rubber Stamp Brigade in Congress and no checks and balances, as well as a TOTALLY packed Supreme Court..

I hate to say this, cos I really would LOVE to see that bastard sent to the Hague, but they've planned all this for 40 years and now they've got all the Marbles and no one else gets to play, especially the american people..

This is where America USED to Be.

So we get all these little hopes and fits and starts from the Dems, sites like Raw Story and others whip people into a lather (or they do it to themselves, they WANT IT SO BAD), and then NOTHING happens.. ask for Censure, ONE GUY SHOWS UP.. Conyers gets the goods on them, they beg to get a Hearing in the BASEMENT OF the Capitol..

Delay steps down, all the media talks about is how McKinney could have poked an eye out with her cellphone and THAT is Grand Jury material..

WE Are living in Bizzarro world and unless there's the slightest possibility that the repig owned voting system fucks up so bad that it can't be denied we're screwed for a LONG time.

Sorry to sound like a downer, but I'm getting sick of all the hope that dives into misery while they kill and kill and kill and get away with it.

Now I know how the people in Germany felt, with their village 15 miles away from piles of bodies, rearranging their cupboards, sweeping their driveways like Nothing was happening.

When will SOMEONE speak up who can DO something?

If we were in France they'd burn down Washington (not that I'm advocating any violence at all, since it's illegal, we need to just keep sitting here consuming, watching TV, marching giant puppets down the streets on Saturdays, and complaining to each other), or their capitol, and cut off the heads of their aristos..
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:43 PM
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41. Damn Symbolman, it all makes sense
It's like an empire where there is this king type person and all those around him keep the peasants in line - there is a moot and all that stuff. Hey, maybe you are wrong!!?

Let's trash the voting machines first.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:46 PM
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42. Nope. You sound really burned out or burnt symbolman. Maybe you
just need a break. This is coming to a head just in time for Novemeber!
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:58 PM
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46. I disagree- why is realism always called "burnt out?"
Do you HONESTLY think the November elections are going to
turn this train on the hot rails to hell around?
We have witnessed nearly a decade of voting fraud
and candidates who talk a good talk and then do NOTHING.
What exactly do you see changing?
BHN
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:10 AM
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52. We I have hope that it will, but I don't see being a downer as acheiving
those ends. You need a spirit lift.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:52 PM
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44. I am SO in agreement with you Symbolman.
Nothing will come of this- if anything it is the
ULTIMATE and FINAL "FUCK YOU,
WHO CARES WHAT YOU THINK?"
to the American people.

BLATANT lawlessness that will go unpunished.
The senate and congress are complicit and
guilty along with the administration.
WE, the people, are powerless because
we have no representation in government.
In short-
It's OVER.
And I am more than willing to take bets
from anyone reading this on the fact that
NOTHING will come of this latest admission
on the unlawful actions of those in power.

As I have said repeatedly over the years
on DU, the entire administration could eat
live babies and kittens on national news
and NOTHING would happen.

Sorry, but I see NO hope other than
watching the bushbots comprehend that they
voted for the destruction of the country they claim
to love.
As if we didn't love our country too?
Fucking "morans."
People get the government they deserve and all that...
BHN
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:55 PM
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45. I am SO in agreement with you Symbolman.


Nothing will come of this- if anything it is the
ULTIMATE and FINAL "FUCK YOU,
WHO CARES WHAT YOU THINK?"
to the American people.
BLATANT lawlessness that will go unpunished.
The senate and congress are complicit and
guilty along with the administration.
WE, the people, are powerless because
we have no representation in government.
In short-
It's OVER.
And I am more than willing to take bets
from anyone reading this on the fact that
NOTHING will come of this latest admission
on the unlawful actions of those in power.
As I have said repeatedly over the years
on DU, the entire administration could eat
live babies and kittens on national news
and NOTHING would happen.
Sorry, but I see NO hope other than
watching the bushbots comprehend that they
voted for the destruction of the country they claim
to love.
As if we didn't love our country too?
Fucking "morans."
People get the government they deserve and all that...
BHN
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:08 PM
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48. This post should have it's own thread
I am not a democrat, I am a liberal.
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suegeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:20 AM
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50. Who'd want to be a CIA agent after this betrayal?
I realize they don't have the nimcumpoop Bush nailed for being the leaker of Plame's name (yet?) but another serious issue with this Plame outing is:

Who in their right mind would become a CIA agent now? After they've seen how casually their identities lives and are disrespected and disgarded?

Unless that was another Junta goal: to keep the CIA jobs in the hands of trusted FRAT boys and rich rightwing snots. And keep the GDI's out of the club.
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