Who favors "guest workers?"

[mykpart]

I got an email from my RW sister which starts off, "Now that the liberals plan to treat the illegal aliens as guest workers . . ."

Is the guest worker deal a liberal thing? I thought Bush was in favor of it. Someone explain, please.

[Auntie Bush]

1. Your sister doesn't know what she's talking about...typical Rethug.

[joemurphy]

2. It makes undocumented aliens more palatable. Let's call

them "guests" and suddenly they're people you'd like to have over for dinner and a snort of booze.

The term "Guest Worker" originates from the German "Gastarbeiter". It's a Bush heist from the Teutons. Kind of like "Homeland Security" (Heimatsicherheit). I'm waiting for them to start refering to Bush as "The Leader" (Der Fuehrer). Then we'll really be kaput.

[cynatnite]

3. total bush idea n/t

[BattyDem]

4. She obviously missed the Bush/Fox lovefest in Cancun ...

and Georgie's demand that Congress give all illegals "guest worker" status. :eyes:

It's amazing ... even when Bush* is on television, day after day, supporting an issue that Repugs don't like, they blame it on the liberals! It's a sickness. There's no other explanation for it.

On edit:
Here's a source your sister will probably believe:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,189900,00.html

"The president pledged his continued support for a guest worker program that would allow undocumented immigrants to remain in the United States and continue to work at low-paying jobs."

[mykpart]

13. Thanks! I just replied to her and sent her the link.

I love it when I show her that her "guy" supports something she hates!

[Inland]

5. Guest worker is all Bush.

I don't know who else is for it, really. The guest worker program would be entirely separate from the amnesty/naturalization/deportation/whatever of current illegals.

Guest workers are people who are supposed to work without hope of every being allowed to become citizens. It's such a shitty deal, however, that no European country that has used guest workers has had the balls to actually make their guest workers leave after twenty years are raising kids speaking only German.

Bush's goal is to have the biggest possible pool of cheap labor that can't vote living in the US and exploited until he and his twins are dead and gone. That's not so much conservative as pro business and, as usual, cynical, anti democratic, and inhumane.

[Zookeeper]

6. I think the idea of permanent guest workers...

is part of the rethug position. Bring in enough "guest workers" to satisfy business and continue to drive down wages for low-skill jobs, and NOT give the non-citizen workers a chance to become American citizens.

The "liberal" position she is referring to is to grant amnesty to the workers currently in this country illegally. They would be granted citizenship, not guest worker status.

[hexola]

7. guest worker = legal slavery (nt)

[Elwood P Dowd]

10. Yep - guest slaves

They want more imported slave labor.

[fedupwithbush]

8. I haven't read any replies yet.

I said that because I want this to be my response to you.

I'm against guest worker status. I want people who want to come here to do it legally like so many before them. We can't support millions of people coming here without doing it legally.

I've lived in communities that have illegal immigration rampant. I was sickened as a parent to go interview kids for a newspaper job and their parents didn't have a CLUE what I was saying or what their kids were agreeing to do. Luckily for them, I was just hiring them for the newspaper. Ever have a 10 year old translate for you?

We can't sustain the illegal immigration we have. I GET SO PISSED HEARING ABOUT THE JOBS WE WON'T DO!!!!!!!!!! McCain can kiss my butt. I'd kiss butt and work hard for $50 bucks an hour to pick lettuce and be damned proud of it.

I started working as a waitress and dishwasher. I made a whopping .25 cents an hour. That was in the 70's. And I was a teenager.

I'm sorry but illegal is illegal to me. Immigration should be monitored and controlled. Wages, services and every other thing depend on it. We CAN'T open our doors to everyone. Not possible and not even imaginable.

AND MY KIDS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT ALONG WITH EVERYING ELSE!

[TheFarseer]

12. We had armies of high school and junior high kids

out pulling the tassels off corn plants for minimum wage plus the *possibility* of a bonus at the end of the year - and detasseling is NOT a fun job. I did it for 7 summers. I can't for the life of me understand why they can't find some kids to pick lettuce or whatever for them for minimum wage. Maybe the kids in California just aren't made of the same tough stuff, or maybe the illegals already have that job nailed down.

[mondo joe]

9. Cheap workers who can't vote. And she thinks that's a LIBERAL idea?

She needs to get out more.

[sandnsea]

11. Democrats support earned legalization

Which is entirely different from revolving-door guest worker, which is what Bush wanted and which Democrats opposed. I haven't looked at the compromise, so I'm not sure exactly what we ended up with. Sadly, nobody really differentiated guest worker from earned legalization, so most people will believe whatever they want to about the immigration bill.