Frist Hunting Animals So Tame He Poses with them BEFORE killing them:

[elehhhhna]

http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/2006/04/i_love_the_anim.html#comments

[seabeyond]

1. eeeew. not a hunting fan granted, but i try to accept with the

men and boys in my life that have their reasons for doing it. but this is just gross. yuck. just a huge turn off. yuck. in so many ways, i cannot express them all

[elehhhhna]

4. Hunting for trophies is creepy. Posing with a zebra BEFORE you kill it?

Really, really creepy. Doesn't make hunting look too challenging, either...

[Solly Mack]

2. That Zebra is dead. It's just been posed for the picture

The head is being held up by the smiling Frist

that's what it looks like to me anyway

[Fleshdancer]

11. ok, I can see that n/t

[Solly Mack]

18. It's sick either way

"Look at me. I'm king of the jungle! I slayed a zebra!"

[Jack Rabbit]

13. The zebra is alive

A man could not hold a zebra's head up like that using one hand in the middle of the zebra's neck.

[Solly Mack]

22. Maybe ..or maybe the guide behind is also pressing against the body

and Frist is using his knee to help prop the Zebra head up

either way it's sick

[KittyWampus]

72. Okay, Trophy Hunting makes his trip a tax right off. He donates carcass

to a natural museum and gets a free ride... just for slaughtering a wild animal.

Museums don't want these animals, either.

:puke:

[Solly Mack]

75. It does? (tax write-off - seriously??) That's sick.

I would have thought he'd place the head on his wall, so he can remember how he was bigger, badder, and stronger than a zebra. Him and his rifle, that is.

[KittyWampus]

76. Please spread the word! Hunters Net Hefty Deductions f/Trophy Animals

Your Tax Dollars at Work? Hunters Net Hefty Deductions for Trophy Animals

Ardent hunter Dave Liniger has shot leopards, lions, elephants, and scores of other wild animals all over the world. Stuffed and mounted, the animal "trophies" were eventually donated to a museum—the museum that real estate magnate Liniger himself had created in Colorado—and claimed as personal income tax write-offs.

Really big tax write-offs.

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Liniger isn't the only trophy hunter to exploit the tax code to finance his thirst for killing wild animals. HSUS investigators estimate that hundreds of hunters annually write off hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes. It's reached a point where Congress needs to crack down on this unjustifiable tax loophole.

"Should your tax dollars be used to finance trophy hunting like this? We don't think so," says Michael Markarian, executive vice president of The HSUS.

And how does one put a proper price tag on the value of a mounted bighorn sheep or zebra anyway?

The Linigers, who sued the IRS on March 1 in federal court in Denver, say it's "replacement value," or what it would cost to go back to those around-the-world locations to hunt, stuff, and ship replacements.

IRS regulations say it depends on "fair market value" (FMV) or what the trophy animals would bring on the open market.

Liniger, a wealthy businessman who briefly toyed with running for the U.S. Senate in 2004, did have a large and impressive collection. But HSUS investigators say it's not uncommon for not-quite-so-rich hunters to use the same tax-avoidance technique, even when their trophy animals are not nearly so exotic or numerous as Liniger's.

"Inflated appraisals are a big problem," says Markarian. "There's no reasonable explanation of how having the mounted heads of animals on display serves the public good. Just as Congress and the IRS have gone after inflated write-offs for donating used cars, they should go after these kinds of abuses of the tax code."

Appraisals, Donations Mark the Trail

When hunters are looking to get write-offs for their game mounts, the name of a well-known organization, the Chicago Appraisers Association, often pops up. Indeed, CAA touts its ability to easily transfer mounts to museums. "Providing a Liaison Between Museums and Hunters Since 1966" proclaims one CAA marketing piece.

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An HSUS investigator gives a blunt assessment: "We had been hearing consistent rumors of high-rollers who were writing off their hunting activity. We believe there is a significant over-appraisal, and we decided to look into it."

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Some of the mounts are "in really, really bad shape when they ship them off, but they still get a tax write-off, so I still take them." Pointing to one unfortunate creature, Boone says, "Something like him, he should have just been thrown in the dumpster ... but gets a $5,000 tax write-off, so what the hell. He don't care." Other mounts duplicate what the museum already has, or just aren't as good specimens as what is already on display.

Boone acknowledges that the majority of the mounts are never going to be put on display in his museum. He holds on to them for the two years required by law, then tries to sell them through a Missouri auction house; others may be sold onsite or from the web site. Most, says Boone, would fetch just a small fraction of their appraised value.

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Despite CAA's sunny-sounding web site promises, its founder Duncan has a cloudy past. In 1991 Duncan was sentenced to 10 months in prison for participating in a scheme in which big-game hunters received assistance from the now-defunct North Carolina Museum of Natural History to import the skins of endangered species.

In investigating the endangered species case, federal wildlife agents also discovered the remains of thousands of stuffed animals in a storage room—and found they also had a tax case based on inflated appraisals. "They had whitetail deer that had been appraised at $5,000 to $6,000, for heaven's sake. And you can't drive around North Carolina without hitting one of them," Assistant U.S. Attorney Richard H. Moore of Raleigh told the Los Angeles Times in 1991.

In this year's annual list of Dirty Dozen tax schemes, the Internal Revenue Service lists "abuse of charitable organizations and deductions." In the past few months, the IRS has zeroed in on the likes of "contributions" of a historic facade easement to a tax-exempt conservation organization, and individuals who took a tax write-off for contributions of used automobiles.

Is it time for wildlife trophy hunting at taxpayer expense to join the list?

[Solly Mack]

78. Thanks for the info! I will indeed spread this around

[SomewhereOutThere424]

80. That's right, and thanks to gale norton...

I don't know if it's happened yet or is going to happen, but these tax breaks may soon apply to endangered animals in hunts as well. While in office one of her biggest goals was to decimate the endangered species act, I heard tell that bush wanted to make hunting them (not on american soil) one of these lousy tax write offs.

These people don't just hate america...they hate the world, and every living thing on it.

[seabeyond]

i looked. further the body is up. they would have to have body

leaning against them, and they are not. they are further back from zebra. i dont think it is dead. i have see pictures of hunters posing with dead, but this doesnt look like one. did they let the zebra take 5 steps, ten, 30 steps before it was shot. i wonder

[Ladyhawk]

81. The zebra is balanced on its legs. Look closer.

No wild zebra would let a man do that. This is in Tanzania and the zebra was wild before it was dead.

[Beaverhausen]

84. If that zebra was raised around people it would be tame enough

It could have been raised on a "hunting ranch"

[converted_democrat]

16. Nope, it's not dead.. We had mules growing up, and they are about

the same size.. Frist is a slight man, he couldn't hold up the head with one hand like that, it would weigh too much..

on edit- The other reason I don't think it's dead is because the lower jaw and lip aren't hanging slack..

[tatertop]

56. 'Fraid you are right. That is one live zebra.

[MidwestTransplant]

52. You are probably right but this is way too funny if you think about it

as the poster has it!

Here kitty kitty!

[obreaslan]

54. Maybe we should have Frist look at the video tape to determine if it's...

Dead or not.

:)

[Solly Mack]

58. ROFLMAO

Damn, that was funny. Thank you!

[Ladyhawk]

77. Looks that way to me. No, Tanzanian zebras are not tame.

Who originally said the zebra was alive???

[Solly Mack]

82. Don't know

but the poor thing looks dead to me.

Other posters have posted other pictures and it seems to be the standard pose for hunters and the animals they kill.

[Jack Rabbit]

3. Hemingway is turning over in his grave. nt

[jean]

5. Why in the hell did they kill the zebra???

[ohio_liberal]

9. Because Bill Frist has a tiny penis

I can understand if people hunt to supplement their food supply but not just to kill for the kill. It's disgusting.

[MADem]

20. Yep and if he makes a rug out of that zebra, it will distract from his

size issues, perhaps...

[madokie]

10. To kill for pleasure is the worst sin of all,

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

17. shhhhhhhhhhh this fine Christian sinned?

:sarcasm:

[NV Whino]

48. Because all the cats were hiding.

[Fleshdancer]

6. That's bizarre

Pretty zebra though...kinda looks pregnant to me but that just might be angle. I've never seen hunters pose with an animal before killing it if that's what they were doing.

[KittyWampus]

74. they must have killed a DRUGGED zebra. Cause no way a live one

would just sit there like that.

Or maybe it was tame. But I don't think zebras can be tamed.

[electropop]

7. Jeebus that's disgusting.

It's so consistent with the GOP mindset, that picking on the weak is fun and cool. It's also consistent with his cat-killing days. Torture of animals is typically a step along the path to full sociopathology: serial killing, mass murder (illegal wars), human torture (Gito/Abu Ghraib) etc.

[MADem]

8. Run, Kitty, RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

12. This is so damned sad.

:cry:

[SteppingRazor]

14. Yeah, I think the zebra is already dead in the picture. n/t

[Avalux]

15. Disgusting.

You know, my father hunts deer in the wild every year and eats what he kills; he has hunted all his life and I have learned to accept what he does. This however..... x(

[Viva_La_Revolution]

19. how did they die?...

if you follow the links they also pose with a dead gazelle and water buffalo. no blood or wounds on any of them that I can see. frickin creepy pics all the way around. :puke:

[jeffreyi]

21. J*&^% F(**&& Ch*%&%!!!

Boy, THAT kill must have been a BIIIIG thrill.

[Deep13]

23. Are you sure that thing is alive?

Maybe he's holding up the head for a post-kill photo. The bullet hole could be on the other side. Never heard of a tame Zebra.

Guess these Rs like killing a lot more than hunting.

This is a photo of the only Black person Frist has ever met.

[Lochloosa]

24. The zebra is dead. Classic after shoot pic.

Zebras are extremely dangerous when alive and close. Frist does not have the balls.

[Solly Mack]

28. Thank you

[Strangefire]

67. I wish a zebra could kick the grin off his face.

...or preferably, just kick off his entire head.

"Heh heh heh, look at me! I just killed this big bad zebra because I could! Me big man with gun! Heh heh heh!"

[meti57b]

25. I see his hand grasping the mane, but the zebra doesn't really look dead.

I'm not looking to exonerate frist, ... I'm just hoping that animal wasn't killed.

[soothsayer]

31. Any chance they were just shot with tranquilizer darts? Not

that it's not annoying to the animals, just that it seems better than death.

[Lochloosa]

40. Actually not a bad question

My ex-boss went on an hunt in Africa. He tranquilized a Rhino. It would have cost him $30,000.00 if the rhino died.

But he did kill a zebra. I asked him how hard was it to kill a horse.

[bklyncowgirl]

26. So Cat killer is now Bwana Bill Zebra Butcher?

There's also a picture of Bwana Bill with a cute little Thompsons Gazelle that looks like it's alive and a dead Cape Buffalo. The Buffalo is clearly dead. Is someone holding up the heads of the zebra and the Gazelle after they were bravely shot by Bwana Bill or are these gentle zoo animals that he blasted into oblivion after posing with them?

http://www.volpac.org/index.cfm?FuseAction=DataPipes.ViewImage&Image_id=199&ImageStoreType_id=1
http://www.volpac.org/index.cfm?FuseAction=DataPipes.ViewImage&Image_id=200&ImageStoreType_id=1

[MidwestTransplant]

27. Thought it would be a cat!

[Neil Lisst]

29. What next? Hunting at the petting zoo?

[0007]

30. Argh!

[tanyev]

32. People hunt zebras?

I'm not queasy about hunting things that you can eat, but I don't recall ever hearing about someone hunting zebra before. I guess that feels to me like hunting horses. (I know, some people in the world do eat horse meat, but I'll betcha Bill Frist doesn't.)

[Lochloosa]

45. Yes, people hunt zebras.

The meat is giving to the locals. And my ex-boss has a new rug in his trophy room.

[Neil Lisst]

33. What kind of asshole shoots a zebra?

[KansDem]

46. I agree, zebras are related to horses

Are horses considered game?

I mean, I'm not a hunter but I can understand the rationale for going after "exotic game" like lions and rhinos (I don't like it, but I suppose the hunter believes he is in some kind of "danger"--a kind of "me vs. them"). And I can understand the rationale for going after deer or bison if the kill is used for meat.

But I don't understand the reason for hunting horses! What is this guy, a "Misfit?"

[Neil Lisst]

85. but this zebra was threatening to eat all the grass in Africa

another rampaging zebra

will they never leave us alone!?!

[jojo54]

34. Good one Frist - that zebra must have given you a hell of a fight!

A great movie plot if I ever saw one!! :sarcasm:

[formercia]

35. Nothing like hunting dangerous game.

Try Cape Buffalo next time Billy. They fight back.

[bklyncowgirl]

39. He did shoot a Cape Buffalo

http://www.volpac.org/index.cfm?FuseAction=DataPipes.ViewImage&Image_id=200&ImageStoreType_id=1

[BreweryYardRat]

62. You sure that's not a regular water buffalo?

I have a hard time envisioning Douchebag Frist being willing to hunt an actual Cape Buffalo unless he shot it from a jeep or a helicopter.

Although I wouldn't put that past him...

[formercia]

65. I think it's a cow

A bull Cape Buffalo is a whole different genre. The cows tend to run unless protecting a calf.

[Hubert Flottz]

70. You say he also bagged his first douche, on his trip to Africa?

Did he whack a trophy lawyer too?

[Ilsa]

36. I don't think I could despise Frist any more than I do at this moment. eom

[bklyncowgirl]

37. Check out these pictures of Bwana Bill with the Gazelle & the Buffalo

He was a busy boy.

http://www.volpac.org/index.cfm?FuseAction=DataPipes.ViewImage&Image_id=199&ImageStoreType_id=1

http://www.volpac.org/index.cfm?FuseAction=DataPipes.ViewImage&Image_id=200&ImageStoreType_id=1

[bunkerbuster1]

44. ugh. He really was hunting them.

Pics are from his PAC site.

[alphafemale]

38. I don't think there is such a thing as a "tame" zebra.

Trophy hunting is still for assholes though.

[Beausoir]

41. What kind of demented sicko would kill a zebra for fun?

How anyone could derive any pleasure out of that is beyond me.

Utterly disgusting.

[Catchawave]

42. Was the zebra pregnant ?

Her tummy looks puffy :cry:

**Warning** don't do a Google Image search on Zebra hunting:
http://images.google.com/images?q=zebra+hunting&ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

All Republicans I bet :mad:

[Twist_U_Up]

43. I wonder if he ate it ?

Aren,t true hunters supposed to eat everything they kill ?

Or did Frist donate the meat to a tribe as if he is doing them a favor when in reality alls he wanted to do was kill not eat.

What a wimp.

[bush_is_wacko]

47. I was unable to find the actual story that accompanies that picture

on Frists website. Anybody got a link.

I agree it is indeed disgusting to hunt an animal after you sat around petting it and posing with it for the camera. Frankly, I think it is disgusting to hunt animals of any kind in Africa. But my initial reaction to that picture is of a rich guy on vacation in Africa accompanied by bush guides who should ALWAYS carry guns in that country. It is dangerous over there. Animals could charge an/or attack without warning and there is a lot of political instability that poses a danger as well. I don't hunt but I guarantee I wouldn't travel through Africa without armed guards!

[Alamom]

49. Do they still have Rattlesnake Hunts?

My dad said (decades ago) they had rattlesnakes hunts or some such thing in Texas...

If so, send him an invitation to one of those and give him a broom for his weapon.

(I don't like killing animals except if needed for food and trying to run a snake off your walk with a broom is quite hopeless....it just makes them mad. He probably doesn't know that.)

[Buck Laser]

51. The great Sweetwater Rattlesnake Roundup.

Unfortunately, they still have it. Sweetwater is my wife's hometown, but we've never been there for the event, nor do we have plans to do so. Rattlesnake hunting is just one of the stupid things we Texans do.

[bklyncowgirl]

50. Here's his new theme song--apologies to the Beatles

Apologies to the Beatles

He went out zebra hunting
with his camera man and gun
In case of accident he took along his son
He's an all American squinty visioned right wing neocon

Hey Bungalow Bill
What did you kill
Bungalow Bill

Hey Bungalow Bill
What did you kill
Bungalow Bill

The Masai guide said here is
a zebra ripe to kill
it's old and sad and toothless
it will not hurt you Bill
Bill sat down and posed with it and then he took his shot

Hey Bungalow Bill
What did you kill
Bungalow Bill

Hey Bungalow Bill
What did you kill
Bungalow Bill

The zebra fell and Bill's son yelled
hey Pop look over there
a kitten in the brush
Oh pop, it's really kind of queer
Don't worry son said our brave Bill I will save us never fear

Hey Bungalow Bill
What did you kill
Bungalow Bill

Hey Bungalow Bill
What did you kill
Bungalow Bill

Bill blew away the kitten
and he picked it up and preened
The Masai guide said
Bill I would hurry if you please
That's a lion cub his mother's here, and she really looks quite peeved.

Hey Bungalow Bill
What did you kill
Bungalow Bill

Hey Bungalow Bill
What did you kill
Bungalow Bill

Bills son and the Masai guide
went running for the car
The lioness was after them
but Bill just stared afar
The lioness said damnit I can't get him through these bars

Hey Bungalow Bill
What did you kill
Bungalow Bill

Hey Bungalow Bill
What did you kill
Bungalow Bill

The zookeeper said Bill,
You paid to shoot the zebra, Man
You didn't pay for lion cub
That's another 15 grand.
Don't worry, my good man, I have plenty cash in hand.

Hey Bungalow Bill
What did you kill
Bungalow Bill

Hey Bungalow Bill
What did you kill
Bungalow Bill

[SOS]

53. Jonathan Frist on the Iraq War:

I had other priorities!

During Vietnam, Bill Frist was hiding at Princeton.

But they can blast away at a zebra on a "safari".

A whole family of elitist scum.

[The Stranger]

55. Kicked and recommended.

Let everyone behold.

[alfredo]

57. Where's the blood?

[THUNDER HANDS]

59. ah, yes, hunting

the sport of men with small penises all over the world.

[Hidden Stillness]

61. Thank You--Thought of That Too

My two thoughts were:
This horrible bastard murdered a ZEBRA, for "fun" and vanity? Burn in hell, you vicious piece of filth; and,
This is Frist's way of telling the world, "I have a two-inch dick."

[Elidor]

60. "Campaign coming up, gotta look manly. How do you work this thing?" nt

[in_cog_ni_to]

63. OMG!!!!!!!!!!! What kind of DERANGED human being could ever shoot that

precious creature? What a sick SOB.

[BreweryYardRat]

64. Hunting for sport is nasty.

Pisses me off. Use a computer sim or just go out with a camera or something, for God's sake. Cheaper and kinder to nature.

[Strangefire]

66. Sad.

I will never understand the mindset of, "Wow, that's such a beautiful creature! I MUST KILL IT!!"

It just seems so pathetic.

[Maestro]

68. Zebra is hunting game?

I bet it was real hard stalking that animal. :sarcasm:

[benEzra]

69. I'm a nonhunter, but it's fairly obvious the zebra is dead...

that's a very standard pose-with-the-dead-animal photo. You see it much more with deer than with zebras, though.

If the zebra weren't dead, those people would be in a world of hurt. AFAIK, there is almost no such thing as a fully tame zebra; they are much less tolerant of humans than horses are.

[ms liberty]

71. Hey, that's purty! Let's kill it!

No exaggeration, that exact phrase was once said in my presence by a man who was talking about why he hunted.

My husband and I use it as a joke tag line now - as in, us, driving down the road: Wow honey, did you see that beautiful hawk? WOOOOO, yea, baby, Ah did...it's PURTY, let's KILL it! YEEEHHAAAA!

I say this as a native southerner, living in the rural south. I can accept the idea of people hunting, if they use the animal. I wouldn't be married to one, ever, but if other people want to hunt, that's their business. But this - this is murder, this is the completely unneccessary ending of a life. I thought he didn't believe in that? Oh, wait, that's just for "worthy" humans!

H.L. Mencken once said "When a man kills an animal, it is called 'sport'. When an animal kills a man it is called 'ferocity'." (I may be paraphrasing a bit there!)

Bill Frist has a lot bad karma building up. The attitude of privilege and enjoyment in that pic is nauseating.

[Hidden Stillness]

79. Cleveland Amory Quote

Reminds me of a quote from the writer and animal rights activist, the late, great Cleveland Amory, (from memory), like "The child kills the animal for sport; the animal dies in earnest."

[SomewhereOutThere424]

73. Take a close look at the hind legs, they look broken

Dead, alive, this animal obviously didn't have rubber legs. I can only imagine what he did to the poor thing. Here's hoping the republican agenda for total anarchy and the collapse of the US comes soon enough for fritz to be hunted/subsequently given 'heart experiments'. Karma is stronger than guns, and even party allegiance.

Of course, about the legs, that could just be the white/black pattern making it look that way...but still. I wouldn't put it past the psycho. Him and phelps outta get the same padded cell some day.

[NickB79]

83. That is the normal way a horse's legs fold when it's down

Nothing broken about them, just all the muscles relaxing after the animal has died.