Growing anger among blacks as Latinos 'take over'

[NNN0LHI]

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-immiblack07.html

NEWARK, N.J. -- The men both stood in a busy hardware store parking lot, but their lives were far apart.

On one end, Oscar Bautista of El Salvador said he had been waiting more than three hours for a job. Across the lot, Art Jackson loaded potting soil into his Dodge Durango. He complained that immigrants are making it harder for Americans to keep good jobs, especially blacks.

''You need to take care of home first,'' said Jackson, an African-American phone salesman from northern New Jersey.

Blacks and Latinos are often united on social and political issues. But they often differ when it comes to immigration.


My white racist parents have been saying the same thing about the blacks for decades. Its always the other guys fault. And the beat goes on...

[Bonobo]

1. Typical bullshit, cherry-picked propoganda story. Next?

[Twist_U_Up]

2. ahhh horseshit

everyone it seems has a different idea about how immigration should be handled.

This is racial flame bait

[Buck Laser]

3. Not a new problem

Stresses between latinos and blacks actually go back a good many years. In my younger days, I worked in the war on poverty, and contention between blacks and hispanics in Texas cities over the allocation of resources was a significant issue in the 60s and 70s.

[laheina]

14. Hi Buck Laser!

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[Catherine Vincent]

4. I knew this was coming.

Is this what the Bush administration had planned all along?

[wtmusic]

5. Wow, this immigration issue is REALLY HEATING UP

Pretty soon they'll be burning cars like over there in France...I'ma vote for the party that keeps me SAFE :scared:

[laheina]

15. Me too. The party that isn't fanning the flames of racial division. nt

[movonne]

6. Another way to divide our country...

[Dr. Jones]

7. I don't understand how this is flame bait!

What is wrong with this article? It's just a black man speaking the truth from his vantage point. If I were in his shoes I'd be thinking the very same damn thing!

He's right. You DO have to take care of home first. He sees this situation as a threat to his life and well-being and rightfully so. The jobs Americans CAN do and DO do are being usurped by this influx of illegals, and it has the added effect of lowering middle class wages. I don't blame the illegals as much as I blame Bush and Fox and the American companies for inviting these guys in and perpetuating the whole thing.

:hide:

[Solo_in_MD]

10. There were similar issues with Vietnamese and other minorities in the past

so this is not really news. Its also not the first time I have heard this view expressed by african americans, mostly targeted at Latinos

There is not enough resources allocated to give everyone/every group what they think they should have so such conflicts are inevitable.

[madrchsod]

8. the chicago trib also ran a story about new orleans

and illegals-black american problems. calling it racist isn`t going to make the problem go away..

read this to understand just what is going on

http://www.blackcommentator.com/178/178_cover_negro_corporate_politician_dixon.html
The Black Commentator - Issue 178 - April 6, 2006

[seabeyond]

9. i have listened to my black friends put down mexicans, and mexicans

put down blacks and i say wtf........

and whites put down everyone,..... yup
odd world

let the women, blacks and mexicans unite and we will kick some serious ass in strong majority

[laheina]

16. And then we might be able to make some *real* changes

for everyone's benefit. :D

[RagingInMiami]

17. "let the women, blacks and mexicans unite"

That is what they're afraid of, that is why they will always use scapegoat issues to keep the lower-classes divided. One day, the people are going to realize how they've been manipulated. And that's the day the minorities become the majority.

[seabeyond]

19. "That is what they're afraid of...." yes it is, lol lol and a gigglin

lets give them their worst nightmare

the only thing is you have males in those latino and black groups that might not be opposed to repressing women themselves..... what to do what to do.....

boy

i think this is exactly the circumstances of trust, and they against me.... interesting

[RagingInMiami]

21. I think the strength of the Latina or Black women is not as disregarded

or disrespected in these communities as many people think. It get's better with each generation.

[Solomon]

11. Meet the next weapon of white supremacy to maintain control.

They have been brewing this thing a few years now after they did the studies and saw when the Latino population would eclipse the African-American population and make them the largest "minority".

If you were on top of this heap, wouldn't you fix it so the two would have to fight each other rather than unite?

You'll see a lot more of these "Latinos taking over as top minority" stories in the coming months.

Focus on their differences, not their similarities. That's the ticket. I mean when you think about it, they could have done that same story using a latino-american complaining that immigrants are making it harder for him to get work. That story would not have stoked the fire they intend to ignite however.

Look, you don't see black people picking up binoculars, guns, and lawn chairs, and rushing of to guard the borders do you?

It's bullshit.

[laheina]

20. Perfect way to put it!

Take a bow my friend. You deserve it.

[Solomon]

22. Thank you so much. Racial things are so raw around here. Most

people don't like discussing it.

[Jim Warren]

12. The Jews are behind all of it

:sarcasm: hello?

[sadiesworld]

13. The attempt to refocus anger over illegal immigration

onto blacks is ongoing. The elites have been busy painting a lazy, demanding blacks vs. hard working, contributing immigrant (the word illegal is disappearing) picture. It is PAINFULLY obvious on RW radio. While they're more subtle about it, certain "liberals" see no problem with throwing blacks over the side in their quest for cheap labor.

[laheina]

18. The key words there are

cheap labor. The African Americans and whites are affected by it just as the Latinos are.

This pro-corporate bullshit has to stop.

[Igel]

25. I saw the same fight in the '90s, but it had nothing to

do with cheap labor. It had to do with affirmative action in financial support, admissions, and educational assistance programs in higher ed.

The AA advocacy group realized that many of its constituents were getting less money, less tutoring, no 'preference' over AmPac and Latino groups. In fact, outreach and admissions were more aggressive in some years for non-AA minority groups; the AA advocates were really, really pissed off that they weren't the sole focus of affirmative action, or even always the primary focus.

The other groups said "Let's unite, and make the pie bigger." But AA advocates knew the pie wasn't going to get any bigger; it was as about as big as it was going to get.

[laheina]

26. That's a slightly different issue.

In the mid 90's in California, the repugs were doing this *exact* same thing with 187. It was just a bid to turn people against the immigrants. The funny thing was that Pete Wilson (the governor at the time and the architect of the 187 sham) was busy telling the border patrol to let people across during the harvest.

The bait and switch is to play minority groups off against each other, meanwhile use them to meet the ends of the "haves." Those ends being to drive down labor costs and to keep the have nots distracted with non-issues.

187 was overturned as unconstitutional, btw.

[Igel]

27. Different issue, same kind of wedge effect. n/t

[The Straight Story]

23. Why is race even brought up in this case?

It is not a specific community that is worried, there are members of all (including some in hispanic community) who have issues with people illegally coming here.

Reminds me of Rodney King and that whole thing - I heard more than once that blacks did not like the asians because they owned the stores there and treated them poorly, etc and so on.

News folks tend to like to seperate things on racial lines. One black man is not speaking for the whole community, people tend to speak for themselves. bush does not speak for all white men with what he says, nor does kerry.

The black people, and white, and iranian guys I work with have been talking about this a lot of late - they all feel basically the same (with some slight variations). Come here legally or don't come at all.

If not racism there is always some other way people group things. In India it class and such for example (which made me wonder, how many people of color/faith/et al do they have to hire or do they bother with discrimination laws there at all - an interesting thing since a lot of US companies are going there for workers, if they are based here do they have to have same HR style things??)

I think race is detracting from the problem - it is not one of race, not does it matter which race is thinking what, it is about people illegally coming here, should they stay here, etc and so on.

[sadiesworld]

24. Would the elites prefer a discussion about race...

or class? They decided the answer to that one some time ago.

(edit to add: The movie Crash is to be made into a television series)

[KingFlorez]

28. This is contrived junk by the right-wing

They want to make Blacks think that Latinos are causing them problems, hoping it will get them Black votes. This is their new strategy.

[linazelle]

29. Yawn. More flamebait. n/t

[cantstandbush]

30. I believe our African-American citizens have suffered amazingly

through much tougher times than posed by illegal immigration. It wasn't Mexican who kept them in chains and it's Mexicans hiring the cheap labor. If there is any people who have proved resilliance, courage, humanity, humility, spirituality as a people, it has been the African-Americans.

In a funny kind of way, the majority in America (whites) have spent so much time and energy fearing, smearing, and mistreating these people, they didn't even notice the rising number of Mexican, Latinos, and other Hispanics stealing into the country. For sure, we have much more culturally in common with Aftican-Americans than the immigrants--legal and illegal--that are making their stake in America today. I guess Karma is a bitch afterall.