Bush to Harry Taylor: ..."let 'her' speak..."

[carpe diem]

...anyone think it was deliberate or a slip of the tongue...it sounded to me like a fratboy, school yard bully way of demeaning the man and calling him a pu**y , under the pretense of respecting his freedom of speech...What a weak, pathetic coward!!

[Marie26]

1. Deliberate. Typical. Jerk. nt

[tridim]

2. Maybe he thought he was talking to Cindy Sheehan?

[tatertop]

3. Like a bartender asking guys: And what do you girls want to drink?

That sounds like the kind of trash talk bush would employ.

[stevietheman]

4. Yet another sign Bush considers American citizens to be rabble. n/t

n/t

[fond DU]

5. Excuse me

Why do you think being called a woman is demeaning? (Let's not start a discussion about how well ANY of our recent Presidents have thought of women, 'kay??) ;(

[Blue_Roses]

6. I think what the OP means is that for a man to be called

"her" in the CONTEXT of how it was used IS demeaning-NOT being called a woman.

[fond DU]

9. Why is that demeaning?

[AllieB]

15. In the eyes of Bush and his sexist cronies, it's an insult

and it is used to demean.

[fond DU]

21. To be fair on this ONE point...

I've never heard Bush say or show that particular characteristic. (I saw worse from Clinton--much as I liked most of the things he did while in office.)

[AllieB]

23. Just because you've never seen it doesn't mean it's there

Bush's attitude toward women is probably consistent with his attitude toward anyone not in his class. When did you see worse from Clinton?

[fond DU]

24. It's not fair to make something up.

There's plenty of other crap he does we can nail him on.

[AllieB]

25. You didn't answer my question about Clinton

Can you give some examples there?

And I didn't make it up, but it was conjecture based on his background, and the books I've read about him.

[fond DU]

26. His own admission, for one.

And I don't really want to get involved in a Clinton set-to. There's an AWFUL lot in the record, Hillary's....handling...of some of it and I know a few people in Ark. (Eureka Sp. is gorgeous, Hope and Hot Springs are some of the prettiest places on earth (tho humid as hell).:)

[niyad]

31. let's see--the global gag rule, anti-choice, what else do you need to see

that he has nothing but contempt for most women? take a look at the way he treated cindy sheehan for a more up-close and personal, and then tell me the man is not a male chauvinist of the first water (with a straight face, please)

[JuniperLea]

7. I don't think it's that at all

I'm sure the poster here doesn't think that way... the point you seem to have missed is that it is very clear that Bush thinks that way.

[fond DU]

10. Nah...............

We already know the man can't talk worth a damn............

[seabeyond]

11. whenever a man wants to insult another man they refer to a woman

just a continuation of demeaning women. sorry, but we are just fuckin tired of it. and nothing to the people that picked up on it, i will say pig male to bush, asshole. but damn tired of a deragatory having to do with female or female parts....when we havent done shit to be dissed

women dont put another woman by saying, you man. it is stupid. and a man sounds stupid everytime he does it. and..... every man that has a daughter, that does that to another man,..... what are you saying to your daughter

[JuniperLea]

13. I guess I tend to ignore such things and chock it up to stupidity

As a woman, I choose not to be offended by such things. Trashy thugs can do nothing to touch me in any way and words from the same do nothing. Why waste the rage. We have much bigger fish to fry... ignoring idiots who still do such things is the best.

Calling Bush out on it is quite another matter... just one more notch in his non-presidential score board.


What a freak.

[fond DU]

14. I'm saying...

To every man that thinks it's 'demeaning' to be called a woman, why they think that's an insult--and I'm asking them to explain themselves.

[seabeyond]

18. self deleted

[SomewhereOutThere424]

12. It's all about intent

There have been people in my past who could have said just about anything and got me riled. This is just a way for republicans to further undermine women and liberals in the same fell swoop. The obvious was 'liberals are weak' but the unobvious was 'WOMEN are weak' by comparing them to liberals who he constantly calls weak in that statement. The REALLY out there is 'do you want a weak hillary in office?' or 'do you think nancy pelosi was really strong enough to handle hurricane katrina?'. It just shows you more about what they talk about behind closed doors than anything else.

People say bush is stupid. I disagree wholeheartedly -- like reagan, he is an actor capable of looking stupid. He's really a psychotic, calculating mind...the damage he can do with simple words, I found, is quite intense.

[fond DU]

16. No, he's not stupid...

But I guess they make me mad enough; I try not to read too much into a simple verbal mess-up. Gawd knows he makes enough of them.....

[Marie26]

17. It isn't

But Bush thinks it is, which really speaks volumes. He was snickering inside at his little witticism.

[carpe diem]

19. it's not that "I" think being called a woman is demeaning...

but, it is a very common tactic for certain personality types to refer to a man in feminine terms as an insult or attack on their masculinity...they certainly don't do it as a compliment...

[fond DU]

20. I understand that.

And for the men that do this, I'd LOVE to ask them why they think it's demeaning and hear how they try and explain THAT one.

[11 Bravo]

28. It's more about *'s attempt to demean the questioner ...

than it is about whether or not the man should feel slighted. By the way, how they hanging, fella?

[npincus]

8. he was a little drunk... slip of the forked tongue

[yardwork]

22. It might indicate that he was being prompted - he was probably wired

Somebody was speaking into his ear by wire, telling him what to say. The handler didn't know the sex of the questioner. The handler maybe said "let her speak" and w of course repeated it verbatim.

We know he's wired when he speaks in public. No way does he go out there alone.

[Catherine Vincent]

27. It was probably both. It was a slip up at first and I am sure he realized

after he said it and didn't bother to correct himself.

[Reader Rabbit]

29. Possibly reflects coaching?

Although the consensus is that Taylor was not a plant, I still suspect that Bush's handlers have been preparing him for something like this. Perhaps they suspected that Cindy Sheehan would eventually manage to force a confrontation, and so they coached him in gender-specific responses, in preparation for such a scenario.

That's my theory, and I'm stickin' to it! :P

[bobbieinok]

30. in 70s when my son was in grade school, I helped at a school picnic

there was a small group of boys who were constantly egging each other on to do stuff and calling each other 'you girl, you'.......it really bugged me