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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:18 PM
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I just saw of clip of Scott M. saying Democrates do not see the distinctio
of releasing documents for national security and those Leaked out.
But nothing else. How did it go this morning. I missed it.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:21 PM
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1. very active thread covered the whole shebang!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:27 PM
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3. hey thanks
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:26 PM
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2. the president is against leaks
they are a serious threat to our national security, let's go after these buggers! But
when a president calmly sits down and declassifies a document, then it is immediately to
be dessimanted to the press or anyone because it's no longer classified. It's legal
and it's not a leak.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:37 PM
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4. What about when a president calmly sits down..
and tells his vice president, to tell his chief of staff, to out a covert CIA agent?
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:41 PM
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5. oh, they weren't outing her, they were declassifying her
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 02:42 PM by MissWaverly
the problem is that the CIA has protection for its covert agents so this sophistry is
meaningless, also I think Fitz will get them on obstuction of justice which is what
Clinton was impeached for. Libby is on trial for obstructing the investigation not
outing Plame.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:50 PM
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6. I think we Democrats understand the distinction very well. In one
case, federal criminal law was broken and then the administration master-minded a cover-up, we every player claiming they were 'authorized' to leak by the higher ups and the higher ups claiming they're above all laws. In the other, there was a legally-protected whistle blower.
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 03:05 PM
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7. If Chucklenuts declassified the info then why did Judith Miller and
Matt Cooper have to be threatened with jail for over a year before brokering a deal with their source? They took it all the way to the Supreme Court and all along it was declassified? I know they were "protecting" their leakers but if there was no need, and Chimpy authorized the leaking, why not save all concerned legal fees, clear the air and move on? Ya think an election could explain it all? Of course, it does.

I mean, if the leaker was given permission by Chucklenuts to give out the information why didn't Snotty Scotty come out immediately and say Chucklenuts is the one who talked to Cheney who talked to Scooter who then, evidently, talked to everyone? Why won't anyone ask Snotty Scotty Puffy McMoonface that?
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