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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:54 PM
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Could Bush be 'drafted' and then face a Court Martial for Treason ?
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The military may want to consider drafting our Commander In Chief simply to put him before a court martial court ! The entire Plame affair, the Domestic Spying operations...the list goes on and on. Endlessly.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:58 PM
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1. Impossible. The Commander in Chief is in charge of the military
He ain't gonna draft himself. The only way to bring him to justice is impeachment in the House, and trial in the Senate. A censure is just a wrist slap. Naughty boy, don't do it again...
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 03:40 PM
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2. Oh, by all means. After he either resigns or is impeached. Then
he could be drafted. I've seen old movies, one by Don Johnson as a former Viet Nam vet who is reinstated into the military specifically to face trial. Can't remember the name of the film though.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 03:45 PM
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3. That happens rarely, and they convener has to be of equal rank
or greater. Monkey served as Commander in Chief. The convener would have to be a sitting president. You cannot have juniors passing judgment on seniors. It's simply an impossible scenario.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 03:55 PM
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4. "CIC" is a civilian rank, what was Bush's rank in TANG when discharged?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:02 PM
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5. You can't get someone in the fashion you propose
You can't pick and choose the rank you use. There is also an issue of timeliness--if you were trying to get him for crimes in the Guard, you'd have to go after him in a timely fashion. His counsel would prevail handily on the issue of timeliness alone.

If you are going after him for his job as CinC, you need a senior enough convening authority, IF, and it is highly unlikely, you could get anyone to even consider the argument--it's a total stretch, a fantasy. Civilian control of the military is enshrined in our Constitution, and is just that--CIVILIAN control. What you propose is to flip the equation, and it's just a non-starter.

I've sat on a veritable shitload of CMs. It just cannot happen.

The venue for presidential justice remains impeachment in the House, trial in the Senate.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:26 PM
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6. The Don Johnson movie's scenario was warcrimes committed in Vietnam
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 04:28 PM by EVDebs
over thirty years ago. Timeliness ? War crimes and murder don't have statutes of limitations if I remember correctly. Never say never, I've seen the "impossible" happen before, sir. If you mean impossible with a R controlled House and Senate, you may be right but things change.

I never dreamed the US would be under martial law. We may as well make use of it, eh ?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:34 PM
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8. Look, Don Johnson never served in Vietnam, and that was FICTION
By that standard, they could go after Bob Kerrey. They haven't. They won't, either. You'd see the Monkey in the Hague before you'd ever see the scenario you propose, and that too, is unlikely.

It's an amusing fantasy, but that is all it is. We need a Democratic House and Senate. Then we can, at minimum, box the Monkey in until we toss him to the curb, or take even sterner measures.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:48 PM
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9. How about a court martial for going AWOL when he was in the TANG
Is there a statute of limitation on that? I read of a few cases recently of people being arrested who went AWOL during the Vietnam War.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 11:11 PM
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11. They've already given him his discharge--that ship has sailed n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:32 PM
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7. Or justice by a device of French design; a simple machine for a simple man
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:58 PM
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10. Too bad the French retired it in 1988
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