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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:32 PM
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I wrote the "Taylor is a Plant" post without knowing the information.
If anyone has any mercy whatsoever, they'll kick this correction to Greatest.

I wrote that post last night before knowing of the Daily Kos article or any of the followup interviews. I was debunked pretty quickly, but now, after the edit period has expired, the post has suddenly appeared on Greatest, and I can't do a durn thing about it!

Knowing what I now know, I would not have posted it. I'm glad I'm only a copy editor and not a journalist -- I now know what Dan Rather must have felt like.

I wish that posts could be edited for as long as they can be recommended.... :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:34 PM
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1. Don't worry about it, please.
Sometimes people here can be meanies.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:34 PM
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2. Nobody could blame you for being suspicious.... n/t
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:34 PM
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3. HAHA! SUCKA!
Just kidding! :hug:

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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:34 PM
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4. You are not alone in this wish, I am sure! DUers are forgivers!
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 04:35 PM by coffeenap
:hug:

Ok, well, of our own mistakes, anyway!:)
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:34 PM
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5. K&R
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:34 PM
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6. Can you ask the moderators or administrators
to do something about it?

Meanwhile, can you post a reply to your original in big, bold headlines?

Things happen.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:35 PM
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7. K&R
:kick:
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:35 PM
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8. You could probably alert on yourself
And ask the mods to delete it.
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:11 PM
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50. I did.
thanks.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:35 PM
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9. Okay, now enlighten me. I only know the broad outlines of this story.
NGU.


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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:35 PM
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10. I admire you even more for writing this.. It takes a big person to
admit a mistake.. K&R
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:35 PM
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11. A lot of people were suspicious
Even me. Then I read the KOS post AND the followup.

K&R.
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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 11:14 PM
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72. K&R
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:35 PM
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12. Done. It Isn't Mistakes That Matter, It Is Owning Up To them And Learning
from them that's important. You have my utmost respect for doing so. :)

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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:36 PM
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13. Nothing wrong with being vigilant.
Didn't some wise man say it's the price of democracy? :)
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timber84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:36 PM
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14. Witch
Really it's ok. even if you still had that opinion of Mr. Taylor it's ok. That's what makes this world a great place to be, different ideas different opinions. if not it would be rather dull.
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Brazenly Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:39 PM
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15. It takes guts and decency to say "I was wrong" K&R
wish I could recommend it more than once.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:39 PM
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16. You had a good analysis.
Go alert on yourself and ask the mods to lock it AFTER you cross post this.

It was a very curious exchange. I'm not a tinfoil hatter as a rule but Bush scripts so many events that it's hard to resist the urge to see one here.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:40 PM
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17. I will happily recommend this post
and commend you for its gracious tone! Thanks.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:40 PM
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18. Well this maladministration has made skeptics of us, how are we too
know? I mean they lie,spin and cause us too doubt them at every turn. I doubted Mr. Taylor also. I apologize for that.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:41 PM
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19. Hey, no problem at all
We know that you hate freedom.

(I'm kidding)

I'm wrong 1/12 of the time myself.

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:43 PM
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20. You're easily forgiven ...
No one is perfect on this message board after all.

We should be happy to be able to have enough humbleness and good character to admit a slip-up

But never me! I'd never go off half-cocked before confirming my research sources. :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

:rofl:

You have a great Rep here - at least from the small circle of DUers I PM with so IMO, Forget about it! :hug:

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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:45 PM
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21. Quit beating yourself up.
Somehow, you have the notion that you were debunked; you even say so.
Your analysis was debunked, not you. You are fine--get over it and learn from it--no more public mea culpa self flagellation.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:52 PM
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25. You get my vote. And please do not hesitate to make posts like that
We need them here.
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:15 PM
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54. So true.
I do this stuff all the time. I'm also extremely good at making it all about ME. So thanks for that -- it's true.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:46 PM
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22. K & R.... and
:grouphug:
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:49 PM
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23. The times we're in make us all suspicious.
Please don't beat yourself up.:pals:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:51 PM
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24. welcome to the world of the anti-McKinney thread
at least you admit you didn't have enough information.....

and....how the fuck much is a half a bunch of cilantro, anyway?
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:53 PM
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26. don't fret about it.
It's a fact most anything we see on corporate news is a setup and sometime they slip something genuine by. so keep on truckin' on being suspicious.

;-)
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:54 PM
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27. You were not the only one who was suspect
Read the first response on Head On Radio:
http://headonradionetwork.com/2006/04/06/head-on-radio-special-report-from-charlotte-nc

cb
Apr 6th, 2006 at 10:08 pm

Gotta love the guy, but Bush’s attitude and response was too smooth. I actually think he could have been a plant to make the very notion sound silly to believers. The crowd was not with this guy. The nation was, but the people in the room were not.

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:54 PM
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28. I saw your post and stifled an angry rebuttal
because we all know that this gang in power is perfectly capable of offering raw meat up to a tame fundy crowd to garner sympathy for the boy emperor.

I don't blame you for suspecting as much.
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:54 PM
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29. It sparked a good debate and there WAS something odd about it
I had only heard the audio until I saw your post. I wanted to go see for myself after reading your post. I wouldn't put anything past Rove, so I had to see it. As I tried to explain on that thread, even though he wasn't a plant, there was still something that seemed "not quite right" about it- Shub's over confidence, as if he knew it was coming. Perhaps you felt it too but just reached the wrong conclusion.

Don't beat yourself up about it . :)
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:56 PM
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30. You're actually admitting that you were mistaken.
Yet another proof that you aren't a Republican! (Not that I thought you were.)

Congratulations!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:01 PM
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31. Well then, I guess you're not a very good witch are you
If you were any kind of witch couldn't you just wiggle your nose or cast a spell or something? :evilgrin:
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:02 PM
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32. You're great and you think!
I agree with all the praise here. How great it is that you can speak, listen, change your mind. That's the big think called democracy we're all together fighting for!
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:02 PM
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33. We are all mistaken, misspeak ... or whatever.
We do NOT all have the grace that you are displaying.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:11 PM
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34. Fuhgeddabouttit!
Whattya, kiddin'? Forgive what? An honest mistake?
:pals:
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:17 PM
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55. Nice avatar.
11-0 in mid-6th babee! :woohoo:
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:11 PM
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75. And Papelbon saves another one-run game tonight!
I'm liking the start of the season. :applause:
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:12 PM
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35. I love a person who can admit that they may have made a mistake
In search of the truth sometimes we make mistakes
peace.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:13 PM
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36. It was a logical question.
Not your fault people voted it to greatest. Oh well.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:17 PM
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37. If we had a President with even 1% of your ethics and willingness ...
... to admit an error -- well, many, many people wouldn't be dead or maimed, just for starters.

I respect your diligence to correct your error.


Peace.
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:17 PM
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56. So should I run for President then?
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 08:18 PM by The Witch
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

(oh yeah, and :sarcasm:)
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:21 PM
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38. Hey, don't worry about it. After all, we all "know that
there are known knowns; there are things we know we know,"

"We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know."

It is all very simple.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:21 PM
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39. In this day and age, suspicion of all BFEE matters is very understandable.
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 05:22 PM by BrklynLiberal
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:25 PM
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40. tHAT'S OK most of us knew you were wrong
I am going to go recommend that thread if I still can. but not this one. HAHAHAHA teh innernet is fUN!!@!
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:30 PM
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41. Copy editor here, too.
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 05:33 PM by RebelOne
I have learned to be very careful before making any drastic changes in an article. I always make sure that I have all the facts. Google is my friend.
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:32 PM
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42. CRAP the admins deleted it?
I DEMAND MY FIRST AMENDMINT RIGHTS TO THERORIZE FLASE INFROMATION!!!@
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:33 PM
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43. Happy to do it for you...
I have been in your shoes.

:hug:
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:34 PM
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44. OMG Witch, I've done this kind of thing so many times.
Please don't feel bad. :hug:
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:34 PM
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45. GROUP HUG!
:grouphug:
it takes a big person to admit they made a boo-boo.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:36 PM
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46. It takes a strong, and humble, person to admit they were wrong
And I admire you very much for doing so. It's perfectly understandable that you thought Taylor was a plant -- I mean, how many times have we seen what he did at a Bush "event". I think this is the first time ever. So kudos to you. :hug:

Recommended.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:36 PM
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47. Oh for gosh sakes, it was a great post. I thought he was a plant as well
due to *'s congenial behavior towards him. I think in hindsite, they just prepared Bush for many questions/statements and he was on his toes.

K and R.

:hi:
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whopis01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:00 PM
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48. kick n/t
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:22 PM
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49. It's understandable
with this MISdministration anything is possible and it's a good thing to ALWAYS be skeptical and questioning.
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:12 PM
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51. WOW! everyone, THANK YOU!!
I had to be away from my desk for a long time and came back to 46 recs?! Whoa, you can stop reccing now, thank you :cry: :cry: :cry:
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:13 PM
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52. I still think you're a genius.
;-)
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:15 PM
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53. It's cool I have done way more bonehead moves than that
What would we do without The Witch:beer:
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:19 PM
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57. Only by being suspicious have we forced this criminal bunch to...........
....come out with the truth.:bounce: So you have plenty of reason to be suspicious:pals: and I'd say don't give up that suspicious nature now either.:pals: Remember, there are months to go and also another "election/theft" to go through.:spank: So keep it going!!!! :hug:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:21 PM
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58. I just alerted and asked the mods to find your thread
and delete it for you, if that's okay.
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:22 PM
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60. thanks. they didn't seem to listen to me, but...
maybe they will delete that thread and this one in one fell swoop.

I call do-over! :P
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:40 PM
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62. They just locked it a few minutes ago
Ta Da!
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:22 PM
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59. You exemplify the difference between us and them.
they'll never admit they were wrong

(they meaning bush and the bots)
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October Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:23 PM
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61. Forgiven!
:)
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:50 PM
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63. I had the SAME THOUGHT at first -- you are forgiven
When I first heard the exchange replayed on the radio, I thought if the guy was for real he would've been hustled out of there in handcuffs by the SS. How low the presidency has sunk in our eyes.

I'm very gratified to read that the man is what he said he was.

Hekate
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:51 PM
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64. Except Dan Rather Was Probably Right
and Karl Rove just screwed him

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:38 PM
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68. Dan Rather was right.
He had the wrong documents to prove it. One of these days I hope the right docs show up and vindicate him.
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 02:15 PM
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73. dan rather was right I printed the same documents about
awol bush and bath both being suspended in aug 1972 from the military's own site. so fearless dan wasn't off the mark he just used the wrong printer to print that story.

way to go dan rather..
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:26 PM
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65. no problem really ...
I think you put out a reasonable theory in these crazy times. Asking for feedback is OK.

Our fearful leader did seem awfully quick on the uptake. I think he might be practicing the art of deflection for occasions such as this. I'm glad Harry turned out to be what he appears to be, but these days you can NEVER take anything for granted, so I completely understand your initial skepticism. Gave me something to think about. Not "wrong" to post it. :)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:30 PM
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66. It's all right, The Witch. I had the same thought, too.
:hi:
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:36 PM
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67. Ahh The Witch ....
we all have our days.

And besides, you always get my jokes, so I gotta have your back! :hug: Ain't no big thang!
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:39 PM
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69. Chill. You've done the right thing.
If I could have a nickle....
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:40 PM
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70. Don't lose any sleep over it.
In these "interesting times" it's hard not to be suspicious of EVERYTHING.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:43 PM
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71. K & R. nt
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:26 PM
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74. Like many others--I thought the same thing!
Even though Taylor seems sincere---I'm still sure that shrub had been rehearsed for such a scenario!
But that's just me.
K&R
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