Re: Bush Leak: "This isn't Clinton we're talking about."

[KyuzoGator]

"This isn't Clinton we're talking about. This isn't about lying under oath. President Bush broke no law." - Heard on Mike Gallagher's radio show this afternoon.

We're in the spin cycle. The hacks are actually comparing leaking classified information to LYING ABOUT A BLOWJOB. And worse, they are framing it as if lying about the blowjob is THE MORE SEVERE OF THE TWO.

The argument being made is that the President or Vice President are authorized to de-classify any information they see fit. I am not completely sure, but I think this is false (please clarify).

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. They are beyond stupid, aren't they?

[LittleClarkie]

2. Someone on Ed Schultz made a good point

Even if it's true, which I don't believe, that Bush has the right to declassify whatever he wants, and therefore his leak was legal, even so the fact remains that he lied.

Blowjobs are legal too. What they got Clinton on was lying about it.

[rzemanfl]

5. Blowjobs are legal? Crap, my wife has been lying to me for

close to thirty years...

[Gabi Hayes]

11. LOLOLOLOL!!!! actually, they aren't, in many states....more if you're gay

[ClassWarrior]

8. Exactly. What did Bush** and Cheney** tell the Special Prosecutor?

NGU.

[proud patriot]

27. Bingo

of you know the pukes will be hypocrites ...

I really don't like hypocrites .

[BrklynLiberal]

3. All I can say is: WHEN CLINTON LIED, NO ONE DIED!!!!

[Iblis]

4. Actually, this IS about lying under oath.

The most sacred oath he could take:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

And what could be more severe than that?

[ShaneGR]

6. I'd be interested to see some talk show ratings.....

Is conservative radio declining too?

[FARAFIELD]

7. ahhh the CLENIS strikes back

that didnt take long, so let me get the spin right ITS "LIKE" WHAT CLINTON DID JUST NOT AS BAD
its sad for the country but GORE has to be laughing his ass off, he really ought to think about running
he would have it in the bag

[KyuzoGator]

22. Clenis, Destructor of Worlds. nt

[aden_nak]

9. The President can't declassify whatever he wants.

That's a bullshit argument. If that argument were true, the President would be within his power to declassify every sensitive piece of information we have. That'd mean it's legal for the President to purposefully out every CIA agent on the planet.

[tabasco]

10. Yeah, a government employee who is doing a good job, and has

sex in his personal time, is a terrible thing.

But completely exposing and compromising a deep-cover CIA program, in place for years, to detect terrorist nuclear acquisition is no big deal!!! :wtf:

I say again! :wtf:

There is something wrong with anyone who supports this corrupt regime any longer.

The ultra-rich spend a lot on propaganda, because it works. The "liberal" media spin should be very interesting.

It will be strong Bush defense in the media.

The Bush family empire is too powerful to let even the have-mores jettison Junior.

The corporate media will go into overdrive with pro-Junior propaganda and of course play right along when it's ....

TIME FOR A TERROR SCARE!!!

:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:

[Initech]

12. Republican save your ass strategy #1: when all else fails, blame Clinton

Shit, the man hasnt been in office for six years!!! Declassifying intelligence reports is SERIOUS SHIT! Disgusting.

[drbtg1]

13. It would appear that Bush gave false and misleading statements...

...to the Congress in an official report. The State of the Union isn't just a campaign speech. Article 2, Section 3. If there was ever a requirement to give honest testimony, this is it. But Bush gave those 16 words! They want claim lying under oath is the standard? Well, Bushco got that covered too.

Rating the crimes, from least to worst:
-giving false or misleading testimony in a civil case (here's where the bar was set in 1998)
-giving false or misleading testimony in a criminal case
-giving false or misleading testimony in an official presidential capacity
-giving false or misleading testimony in an official presidential capacity THAT LED US TO WAR! (here's Bushco)

[VOX]

14. Clinton MUST be God -- he's responsible for **everything**!! n/t

[Rocknrule]

15. "Bush blew up the world, but at least he didn't get blown by an intern"

That's the logic of these cultists

[agincourt]

20. Cultists is exactly right,

If Bush nuked Washington there would be some blowing buffoon going on about Clinton being worse. There is no end to it, it's like a disease.

[KyuzoGator]

16. kick nt

[KyuzoGator]

17. kick nt

[Catherine Vincent]

18. What a fucking idiot!

[Swamp Rat]

19. Mike Gallagher is a Nazi Reptile from Outer Space

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. They were making the SAME argument on NPR

Juan Williams to be specific... the talking point comes STRAIGHT from Scotty "the Liar" McClellan

[gatorboy]

23. OH, boy. I hope Bush doesn't get a job and try to hide it.

Then the Repugs might really take these other lies seriously! :eyes:

[oasis]

24. "I never had sex with that woman" . How many times has that been played

and replayed. Bush's "We'll take appropriate action on the leaker" is deception on the American public as well. Not illegal, but deception.

Should the corporate media give equal time to the Chimperor's Sept. 30, '03 "I don't have a clue who the leaker is" moment, then
Chimpy will never "spin" his numbers out of their downward spiral.

[Marr]

25. That entire argument is irrelevant. It's about obstruction of justice.

Which Bush and Cheney are both clearly guilty of. They both lied to the investigator, period. End of story. No spin possible.

[mitchum]

26. Clinton may be the oral sex president, but bush is the anal sex president

He must be.
Every time I see him, I yell, "Fuck that asshole!"

[Elnendil Taramon]

28. ...What?

Seems someone is lying out of their ass again.

Oh those Repubbies.

[Independent_Liberal]

29. Typical Republican logic.

I'm convinced the only thing Republicans care about is ruling us all. "Yeah, we own you. We are the law. Do as we say. You can't have blowjobs."

Republicans are the main ingredient that's causing fascism in this country. They're no better than the Nazis in Germany or the Klu Klux Klan. Wouldn't you agree?

[KyuzoGator]

30. Clenis Kick nt