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KyuzoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 11:37 PM
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Where is the unified Democratic Party statement on e-voting?
Because you know...pretty much nothing else matters at all if the elections are fixed. You'd think it might be a high priority to our party.

Just asking.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 11:38 PM
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1. That would involve spine.
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KyuzoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 11:55 PM
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2. Chirp. Chirp. (tumbleweed)
nt
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 12:21 AM
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7. Here ya go!


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Leeny Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 12:05 AM
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3. Vanilla
I agree, it should be top priority. Nothing else matters if the elections are fixed/stolen like the last two. It's just not as sexy or interesting to talk about. Too vanilla. We need to keep pushing it to the top of the agenda and keep it in the conversation.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 12:08 AM
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4. That would require an opposition party.
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Leeny Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 12:09 AM
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5. at least one out there
www.debrabowen.com/blog/
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Leeny Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 12:13 AM
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6. okay, one more
just for fun... hope I'm doing these links right

http://homepage.mac.com/rcareaga/diebold/adworks.htm
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 02:54 AM
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8. You want Bushite corporations 'counting' all our votes with 'TRADE SECRET'
PROPRIETARY programming code, and virtually no audit/recount controls, to be a high priority--say, even the top priority--of the Democratic Party leadership in the country? You must be sane.

But the least they could do--for their malfeasance, corruption and collusion in losing us our right to vote--is to fund INDEPENDENT EXIT POLLS in '06, to help the evidence gathering effort, so that we can get rid of these election theft machines.

Request that the DNC and local party officials fund INDEPENDENT EXIT POLLS. The war profiteering corporate news monopoly exit polls are not to be trusted. Exit polls are used worldwide to verify elections and check for fraud--but in the U.S. were handled in such a way as to destroy their verification value in 2004, and this will likely continue to be the case in 2006.

Another thing to keep in mind: Big voter turnout can overwhelm the fraudulent machines, in some cases. Bumper sticker: "Help Us Beat the Machines--VOTE!" Also, urge requesting of Absentee Ballots as a protest against the machines. This growing movement may end up making the machines redundant. It is by no means a full solution (the AB vote results then go into a computer which has secret vote tabulation software), but at least it is PAPER BALLOT, a recountable thing, and will help in gathering evidence. And the number of people requesting them may become newsworthy.

Get involved in closely monitoring election results to help with challenges and lawsuits, and to build the case against these extremely hackable, insecure, unreliable, Bushite-controlled elect theft systems.

Meanwhile...

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SOME RESOURCES FOR AMERICAN REVOLUTION II:

Hopeful signs - latest news:

California voters sue the state over Diebold:
www.VoterAction.org--just announced--is suing the state of California and 18 Calif county registrars on behalf of 25 California voter/plaintiffs, on the illegal Diebold "certification" by Schwarzenegger appointee Bruce McPherson.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2180496

Maryland rejects Diebold:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x418263

Florida - anti-trust accusations against Diebold, ES&S and Sequoia, re: heroic Florida election official Ion Sancho:
(FLA AG subpoenas the companies:)
http://www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/legalissues/story/0,10801,110192,00.html
http://www.tbo.com/news/politics/MGBKSY8W8LE.html
(info & discussion:)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2183630

Utah county clerk fights back!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x419226

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More resources for American Revolution II:

www.votersunite.org (MythBreakers - easy primer on electronic voting--one of the myths is that HAVA requires electronic voting; it does not.)
www.verfiedvoting.org (great activist site)
www.votetrustusa.org (news of this great movement from around the country)
www.UScountvotes.org (statistical monitoring of '06 and '08 elections)
www.solarbus.org/election/index.shtml (fab compendium of all election info)
www.freepress.org (devoted to election reform)
www.bradblog.com (also great, and devoted to election reform)
www.TruthIsAll.net (analysis of the 2004 election)* :patriot: :applause: :patriot:
www.votepa.us (well-organized local group of citizen activists in Pennsylvania, where important legal issues are at stake, including state's rights over election systems)

The Voter Confidence Resolution
http://tinyurl.com/rlnr2 (“We Do Not Consent”)
http://guvwurld.blogspot.com (GuvWurld blog main page)
http://tinyurl.com/amryg (Voter Confidence Resolution

www.debrabowen.com (Calif Senator running for Sec of State to reform election system)
www.johnbonifaz.com (running for Massachusetts Sec of State on strong election reform and antiwar platform)

*Some tributes to TruthIsAll, who is very ill:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x417007
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x417231
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x675477

**Congressional bills:

**Russ Holt's HR 550 requires a paper ballot, bans secret software in "voting machines", and has 169 sponsors, but the audit required is too weak, it promotes centralized power over elections, it promotes electronic voting, and the secret software might be permitted to continue in the central tabulators (the bill is not clear). To sign the HR 550 petition: http://www.rushholt.com/petition.html
**Discussion of the dangers in HR 550 or any bill by the current Congress:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x421136
(Note: Senate Bill-SB 330 and House-HR704 simply require a "voter verified paper audit trail" (VVPAT), which may be best for the moment.)


Also of interest:

Bob Koehler (-- four recent election reform initiatives in Ohio, predicted to win by 60/40 votes, flipped over, on election day, into 60/40 LOSSES!--the biggest flipover we've seen yet; the election theft machines and their masters are now dictating election policy!)
www.tmsfeatures.com/tmsfeatures/subcategory.jsp?file=20051124ctnbk-a.txt&catid=1824&code=ctnbk

Bob Koehler's latest: "Take this box and stuff it" (3/16/06)
http://commonwonders.com/archives/col337.htm

Amaryllis (Diebold, ES&S, Sequoia lavish lobbying of election officials - Beverly Hilton, Aug. '05)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x380340

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Throw Diebold, ES&S and ALL election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW!

:think: :patriot: :woohoo: :patriot: :think:

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"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it." --Thomas Jefferson, The Declaration of Independence
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 05:37 AM
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9. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Edited on Sat Apr-08-06 05:39 AM by Solon
Seriously, this push for electronic/computerized voting is really ridiculous, I don't really see a need for such systems when old fashioned punch ballots and pen and paper worked for hundreds of years. Hell, even throwing colored stones into a basin would be an improvement!

ON EDIT: However, with the push being so overwhelming, I say the message should be, "If we're going to do it, we better do it right." That means secure systems, software whose source is open to the public, standardized hardware used(no proprietary crap) and also that their be a human readable paper ballot printed for every vote recorded.
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