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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 08:57 AM
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Why didn't Bush come out years ago and admit to being the leaker if its OK?
Edited on Sat Apr-08-06 09:21 AM by NNN0LHI
Why did Bush let Fitzgerald investigate this all this time if he thinks what he did was perfectly legal?

Why hasn't the media been asking this logical question?

Lou Dobbs was complaining about what Fitzgerald was doing to his dear friend Judith Miller by keeping her in jail. It wasn't Fitzgerald who was doing anything to Miller after all. It was Bush who caused all this because he was like a little kid hiding under his bed all this time.

Why didn't Lou mention that?

Dobbs was also complaining how long Fitzgerald was taking on his investigation. Well now we find out that wasn't Fitzgerald's fault either. It was Bush's fault.

All Bush had to do was fess up to what he says he did "legally" years ago as he is doing now and this would have all been avoided. Right?

Don
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 08:59 AM
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1. Yeah, he could have raked in a lot of dough as a 'Dependz' spokesperson!
:D

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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:01 AM
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3. Great Photo-shop...
:thumbsup:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:09 AM
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12. Thanks. Here's my gallery in case you would like to see more:
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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:19 AM
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22. Thanks
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 11:48 PM
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43. Bush's facial expression isn't photoshopped though.
That's real and it's.......SCARY.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:11 AM
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13. Excellent!

You could not have selected a better photo of the dimson. Everytime I look at him, I see this expresion. Even if he's laughing, all I see is that mean-spirited, nasty "You can't touch me!" look.


:hi:

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:18 AM
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20. Folks started photoshopping it right away but I held onto it for while,
waiting for the best moment to use it. After deciding on the "Leaker-In-Chief motif, I went though hundreds of photos Bushler photos and came back to this one. What caught my eye was the urine-colored backgrop. :think:

This one is a bit more 'Eastery': :D



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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 10:39 AM
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31. OMG, Swamp Rat...
Doesn't he look like a dumb, perplexed Chimp in that picture, "umduayyyy"! :7
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 02:54 PM
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37. Boy you are fast!!
Bowing to the master of Photoshoppery!!
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:19 AM
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21. Yeah, it's that 'mean oldest brother' look
That look Jeb probably saw right before the wedgie and then the fart-in-the-face gag.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:17 AM
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18. OMG Dependz spokesperson.... I don't think I've heard a better one
Edited on Sat Apr-08-06 09:17 AM by lonestarnot
for some time :rofl: You just made my fucking day! THANKS SWAMPIE! :hug:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:20 AM
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23. In the other thread I posted a larger version for your truck.
Just for you. ;)


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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:24 AM
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25. All he needs is a Native American headdress.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:01 AM
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2. It appears they've lied themselves into a corner
and that will be check MATE.

the next moves by both sides will be VERY interesting
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:04 AM
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6. ONly Scott has spoken thus far. We have not heard this from the mouths
of either bush or cheney. I am waiting for that.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:05 AM
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7. and Bush did not admit to NSA spying till it was in the press
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 11:25 AM
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32. Now we know why b and c were interviewed together- without oath.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:02 AM
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4. Yes, this gets me too
Why did he lie to us about this for so long and allow so much of our taxpayer dollars to fund this investigation? Even if they find some legal way to defend the leak, how can this public deception and waste of money be justified?
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:09 AM
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11. Uhhh, why did they lie to the FBI in the first place!
Edited on Sat Apr-08-06 09:13 AM by Zen Democrat
Because ... Valerie Plame was a NOC and 10 years in the hoosegow didn't look appealing. I keep hearing that there's nothing in Fitzgerald's court filing that says Libby testified that Bush leaked Plame, as if that's exculpatory. But Fitzgerald was not laying out his entire case, just making the point that the administration was burning for revenge on Joe Wilson - and that Libby testified falsely that he had "forgotten the facts due to being consumed by other matters" - because it looks like the White House was completely consumed with destroying Joe Wilson. That's my take.
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Infomaniac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:38 AM
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29. Nominated. It's the waste of tax dollars that gets me too.
Edited on Sat Apr-08-06 09:39 AM by Infomaniac
It's OK to waste a huge amount of time and tax dollars so he can bring honor and integrity back to the White House.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:03 AM
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'04 election....
what can ya say?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:03 AM
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5. Cuz it was national security!! He was protecting the country!!!
Project X was all important, no matter the cost!

Secrecy was essential!!!! WE HAD TO WAIT THOSE TEN DAYS TO DECLASSIFY! FOR THE CODE!!!

Wait, no,

Our Great Leader had already declassified those forgeries perfectly legally before passing them on to authorized personnel only!!!

Wait...

Our Great God er leader Can NEVER commit a crime so stop saying that!

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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:06 AM
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8. And all the god fearing "conservatives" in our country
are feverishly working up a response to your on the mark question. No doubt they will be able to explain it all away soon, and most likely the bad guy will be a liberal or a democrat or most likely Clinton.

If a Seaman Apprentice in the admin department left a secret message unattended for two minutes he would be court martialed. Such accountability is not part of the gop modus operandi; nor for their base.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:07 AM
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9. its a backup lie.
Edited on Sat Apr-08-06 09:08 AM by bullimiami
they create lies on the fly. lies and excuses. deny, deny, deny, lie, lie, lie...

like an elephant stole my homework, uh it got wet and dissolved in the big rainstorm, uh I dont have to do homework because im the president.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:07 AM
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10. The media et al are completely ignoring the fact Bush LIED about leaking!
He said several times that he wanted to know who had leaked and he would then deal with the person....ALL THE WHILE IT WAS HE, HIMSELF, GEORGE BUSH who was the leaker and he was hiding that fact....If not criminal, that is at the very least extremely dishonest and unethical!
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:14 AM
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16. He has lied about so many things & is never called on it.

There's a bumper sticker that says:

Will somone just give him a blowjob so we can impeach him already?


I'd be :rofl: if it weren't so :cry:
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:11 AM
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14. Had the invasion gone well, none of this would have come out.
We can thank the Iraqi resistance for this.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:13 AM
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15. Because it was a secret.
And there is nothing he values more than keeping secrets.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:15 AM
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17. Dobbs and the rest of the media will be SHOCKED
when bush is charged with obstruction of justice for lying to Fitz in his interview in 2004. They are avoiding the OOJ issue like the plague right now.
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mia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:21 AM
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24. Was he lying under oath
or were his fingers crossed?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:24 AM
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26. he wasn't under oath
neither were cheney or gonzales. It is perjury to lie under oath, OOJ to lie to a federal prosecuter. The charge is equally bad either way as far as I can tell.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:18 AM
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19. John Dean has a new (long ) article from yesterday-thinks this is serious


The Meaning of Libby's Revelations - and Their Possible Consequences

....Libby's statements regarding the President are clearly hearsay; he was repeating to the grand jury what he claims Cheney told him. Accordingly, Bush is probably still protected by Cheney.

Presumably, Patrick Fitzgerald asked both Bush and Cheney about their actions when he interviewed them. But what they said, has yet to be revealed. If Cheney lied to protect himself, in the interviews, then he could also have lied to protect the President. Or Cheney could have opted to take the fall, and leave the President out of it.

Many commentators are dismissing this situation as run-of-the-mill presidential/vice presidential politics. But I believe it is more serious.

From a political perspective, separate from the illegality, there is the hypocrisy: The Bush Administration has prosecuted and sent to jail officials who leaked far less serious information - as I discussed in detail in a prior column. It is actively, and currently, threatening to prosecute others who have leaked information about the president's illegal electronic surveillance of Americans.



http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20060407.html
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 02:46 PM
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36. Great article, thanks.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:22 PM
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40. There is a cancer on Bush's presidency.
Damn, Dean is great. He's got a powerful handle on all of this. He's been there before.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:34 AM
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27. Cheney just recently TOLD him he did it cuz pResidents can do anything
Up til then, DimSon didn't know he did the leaking himself. See, anybody else might go to jail or sumthin! So it had to be him.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:37 AM
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28. Silly, it WASN'T ok before it WAS ok................ flip-flop-flip-flop
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mia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 10:23 AM
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30. Plame and David Kelly attacked in the same week
Where does Bush's declassification of the documents fit into this timeline?


Jan 28th 2003 - Bush delivers SOTU with Niger claim in it

March 19th 2003 - War starts

April 10th 2003 - Baghdad falls to coalition forces

May 1st 2003 - Mission Accomplished

May 6th 2003 - Nicholas Kristof mentions 2002 trip to Niger to investigate claims, claims deemed not credible in 2002

May 28th 2003 - BBC publishes claims Downing Street "sexed up" Iraq dossier to help Blair's case for war

July 6th 2003 - Wilson publishes "What I didn't find in Africa

July 9th 2003 - Dr Kelley named as mole to BBC story

July 10th 2003 - Novak starts working on his article about Wilson / Plame

July 14th 2003 - Robert Novak, a Right-Wing pundit and reporter for the Chicago Sun-Times publicly "outs" Valerie Plame as a CIA operative

July 17th 2003 - Dr. David Kelly started out on his usual afternoon walk. About 18 hours later, searchers found his body, left wrist slit, in a secluded lane on Harrowdown Hill

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/7/24/4544/49231


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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 11:25 AM
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33. Thats simple. Because it's NOT ok, and he trying to cover his ass now.
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Heywood J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 02:25 PM
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34. I'd K&R if I could.
That's the same thing I've been thinking - also for the blowjob bumper sticker. Obstruction of Justice was one of the charges levelled against Clinton.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 02:30 PM
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35. Ummmm, cause he's a lying son of a bitch? My question exactly
Why did the shithead let Judy Miller sit in jail?

Why did the shithead let Ol' Scooter get indicted?

Why didn't he just tell Ol' Fitz that he gave everyone permission therefore roll up your tent and head back to Chicago?

CAUSE HE'S A LYING SONOFABITCH.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 02:55 PM
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38. Because it was Karl, not George who leaked?
Just a guess.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:06 PM
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39. Bingo. That one question sinks our Fearless Leader's boat.
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 08:12 PM
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41. Because he loves to waste the taxpayers' money?
Glad you've brought up the Dobbs position on the entire Leak investigation. His little spiel at the end of his show every day, for 85 days last year, about that nasty Fitz tormenting "an esteemed journalist" had me :puke:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 11:38 PM
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42. Oh, I've been asking myself this question. :)
Edited on Sat Apr-08-06 11:38 PM by Patsy Stone
My theory: It's easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission. After you get caught you just let people know that you interpret the law in such a way that it's okay. Oy.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 11:54 PM
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44. Bush coming out?
phew - on first reading I thought all will revealed on Bush 'coming out' but alas it's the Plame case! :evilgrin:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 11:58 PM
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45. That's the $64,000 question...
If he thought it was legal at the time, why did he let so many people suffer in jail and under scrutiny of investigation?? Something very wrong with that picture. Excuses I've heard do not make sense, neither from reporters or from the White House.
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 12:02 AM
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46. I've been wondering the same thing. n/t
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 12:09 AM
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47. Remember this, it wasn't the Plame leak- it's the Plame leak lie...!
that the chimp was/is guilty of!
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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 10:17 AM
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48. I'm so glad our leaker in chief
lied to us. I'm going to have fun repeating this over and over.
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