With globalization afoot, why are there illegal immigrants at all?

[Deja Q]

If we are globalizing to make life better for all (so they say), why do others still want to come here? Especially with things falling apart.

[havocmom]

1. Some US employers don't like to travel?

:evilgrin:

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. Globalization means no borders

[The2ndWheel]

3. For corporations, nt

[proud2BlibKansan]

4. Clinton said that

when he was promoting NAFTA. Maybe he meant for corporations but I don't remember him saying that.

[bullimiami]

5. globalization = global exploitation

obviously it isnt working so well for the mexican workers.

[niallmac]

6. I know he got a little nuts there at the end but

shouldn't there be a statue of Ross Perot in a park somewhere?
It should be inscribed "I told you so."

[1932]

7. Because globalization is about shifting work abroad, profits home.

And the work abroad is exploitative. So, many people abroad would rather follow the profit back to America and try to find other ways to get it (like, being gardeners, cooks, and nannies for the CEOs making so much money off exploiting the resources and labor back in their home countries).

Globalization hasn't evened things out. It has increased the disparities. Immigration is the natural result of people watching where the power is flowing and following it.

[fasttense]

8. On the surface globalization and no borders,

with no illegal immigrants sound good. The problem is in implementing such a huge change in a fair and equatable manner.

You and I hear the term and we think it is a good idea. We can bring jobs to the poor and improve the standard of living in third world countries.

Republicans hear it and think it is a good idea. They can pay a worker in India $260 a month instead of $2,600 a month here in the US and make billions. Eventually the cheap labor pool will dry up because the workers will smarten up but for now they will make a killing. As they steal more money, they get more powerful and tighten their control over that cheap labor pool. With the money and power they ensure the continued poverty of those workers.

The biggest, dumbest mistake Clinton ever made was to NOT put into NAFTA very strict, observable controls on fair wages and working conditions. This happened in the 1800s when no controls were put on business. Companies used five year old children to clean under equipment that with one misstep would cut off their leg or arm. They took 12 year old girls locked them up in huge warehouses and made them sew 20 hours a day. Not until Unions began standing up did any of this abuse decline. Well, guess what folks, there ain't no Unions in communist and dictatorial countries.

Why are the number of illegal immigrants from Mexico increasing in the US since all those great corporations have moved their jobs to Mexico? Because businessmen are doing what they did in the 1800s. They are exploiting children, prisoners, the poor to make billions and buy off Congressmen and the pResident. Eventually the workers will catch on. This is what Cesar Chavez was warning us about. But in the mean time, billions are being made by stealing the labor of impoverished societies.

[Jade Fox]

9. Read this.....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/the-taboo-subject-at-the-_b_18344.html

[LiberalEsto]

10. Obviously NAFTA didn't acomplish much

except to take away American jobs. It was once touted as a way to stop illegal immigration.

[Hidden Stillness]

11. Globalization is Only Capitalist; It is the Death of Nations

"We" are not globalizing, they are. If "we" were all globalizing, then why can't "we" offer our services as cashiers and baggers, hamburger-flippers, etc., globally, and let all corpporations bid our salaries up, "in a competitive marketplace"? Only the rich capitalist's investment money moves around, changing countries, even selling out currencies, any old time they want to exploit someone else's tragedy. We want immigrants, borders, laws, etc., because we still want a sovereign Nation based on something other than the commercial marketplace and some corporation's profit-making. If they want globalization, then let us globalize all the biggest labor unions.

[Trillo]

12. Interesting thoughts that reminded me to share this one of mine:

Why, when graduating from high school, aren't citizens granted full and legal corporate status and issued a corporate taxpayer ID?