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Dr. Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 10:10 AM
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Securing the Border as a National Security/Terrorism Issue: LIHOP? -->
Some may argue that open borders between the U.S. and Mexico are a good thing. However, there is a significant probability that terrorists have infiltrated our country via our open, pourous borders that are simply not enforced.

If you ascribe to the LIHOP theory, this may make sense. Leave an open border in the South in order to allow terrorists to infiltrate our country, then prevent FBI from tracking and surveilling such terrorists.

Woot! Now we need warrantless wiretapping. Now we need the Patriot Act to take away our civil liberties and allow the Bush admin to arrest you out of your home for no reason and with no Miranda rights. Now we have them reading our emails and peering down at us from satellites. The terrorists are among us, they say - and we need the tools to track them down. However, one problem - it was Bush open-border non-enforcement policies that created this problem in the first place!

LIHOP.

A perfect Orwellian plan for the subjection of the United States (and the world) to a tyrranical, oppressive regime using fear and manipulation of the masses.


US-Mexican border as a terror risk
Recent intelligence gives the most evidence yet of terrorist plans. Lawmakers push for tighter security.

By Faye Bowers | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

WASHINGTON – Concern is growing at the top levels of government about the US-Mexican border becoming a back door for terrorists entering the United States. While Al Qaeda infiltration across the nation's southern border has been a constant concern since 9/11, US officials cite recent intelligence giving the most definitive evidence yet that terrorists are planning to use it as an entry point - if they haven't already.

As a result, a number of Republican and Democratic lawmakers - mainly from border states - are pushing to tighten checkpoints and other ways of monitoring the porous 1,400-mile boundary. The subject will also be central to President Bush's summit in Texas Wednesday with Mexican President Vicente Fox and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin.

One of the biggest concerns is that terrorists may exploit the current crossing procedures to make their way into the US. One way they might do this - and members of Congress say evidence is mounting that terrorists are trying this - is by paying smuggling networks, especially organized gangs.

The other is through a loophole in the system to separate the large number of illegal Mexican migrants, who are automatically turned back at the borders, from citizens of other countries who are allowed in, pending immigration hearings. These others are referred to as "other than Mexicans," or OTMs, by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). They come from other Latin American countries as well as other parts of the world, many of them designated by the government as countries of "special interest." In 2004, some 44,000 OTMs were allowed into the US.

Source: http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0322/p01s01-uspo.html
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Montagnard Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 10:13 AM
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1. If I have to disrobe to get on an hour flight
we should at least know who is coming over the boarder.
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Dr. Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 11:32 AM
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2. Yes, we should!
Edited on Sat Apr-08-06 11:34 AM by Dr. Jones
I'm not necessarily in favor of a wall, but greater surveillence and enforcement is a must FOR SURE. Something just be done to secure our borders - most Dems AND Repubs seem to agree on this basic point.

A physical wall would certainly keep out illegals, but the symbolism is that of isolationism and the attitude of, "We don't want you in our country anymore."
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