What If They're Trying To Provoke Iran Into Hostile Action?

[cali]

Mostly a devil's advocate argument because I find It difficult to believe that Sy Hersh was duped. His history of accurate stories seems to belie that. But what if he was? What if the admin is trying to provoke Iran and its non too stable President into launching an attack, either on Israel or American Forces in Iraq or in the Gulf Region, say on an aircraft carrier in the area? Then he'd have an excuse to launch an attack, even an attack using nuclear tipped bunker busters, on Iranian targets. If Iran attacked an ally or our forces, it would be easy too stir up the requisite fear and nationalist fervor that would enable them to initiate such an attack with the backing of the American people and without overt hostility from much of the rest of the world.

According to reports, the U.S. is conducting over flights in Iran, supposedly to pin point targets. What if the Iranians shoot down an American fighter jet? In any case over flights are seriously provocative. Maybe they're not happening, but if the Iranians believe that they are, such belief could seriously up the paranoia quotient.

All I really know is that bush is seriously crazy. He's a megalomaniac with a messiah complex. What could be more dangerous than that?

[Pavulon]

1. Another one

in Iran. He is waiting for an imam to pop up out of his hole. Like a groundhog, but he needs all kind of destruction and death to come save the islamic world.

If this were a Nash Equation we are fucked on the sanity part of both players.

[Lerkfish]

2. most certainly. They wanted to do the same in Iraq with planes painted as

UN planes.

[thinkingwoman]

3. It worked pre-9/11

Remember "carpet of gold or carpet of bombs"?

Buscho knows they can't sell going into Iran without something happening first. If they can just provoke Iran into firing first...

[BiggJawn]

4. That could be a very real possibility.

Look at like this:
Some guy moves in across the street from you. He has what looks like a shotgun pointed at your house from every window, stands out in his front yard shaking his dick and screaming at you, and writes LTTE and calls local radio shows with tales about how you're a danger to the community and must be run out or burned out.
You can only ignore him for so long, especially when he walks into your bathroom while you're taking a dump, claiming to be looking for your "bomb".

Oh, did I tell you he's the police chief of your town, and his brother is Mayor and just as batshit as he is?

[KoKo]

12. ROFL! That is so funny....Thanks!

:rofl: The imagery in that expresses the situation so well...sadly.

[sadiesworld]

5. Perhaps our dem reps need to start asking questions?

Just a thought.

[CrispyQ]

6. I think he's itchin' to nuke someone.

And his base is too.

[HereSince1628]

7. Actually seems they are cutting off opportunities for diplomacy.

Iran can't respond favorably to being bullied and the company knows it. Just as with Iraq, every step that BushCo makes reduces BOTH countries' degrees of freedom in choice making.

Iran is quite unlikely to move on the United States first (albeit a clandestine attack by the US might provoke an overt attack on US shipping in the Gulf by Iran). The plan is and has always been to destroy Iran's military capacity which the 51st state deems threatening.

They established the precedent of pre-emptive war with Iraq, and the US got away with no sanctions for that breach of international law. What BushCo is working towards is reducing the public's perception of options to "no other option."

[cali]

8. Thanks for your well thought

out response. I agree. Whatever else it does, this information certainly diminishes the opportunity tor a diplomatic resolution.

[rvgwinn]

9. Bush in trouble

EVERYTIME BUSH GETS IN TROUBLE A MAJOR EVENT HAPPENS TO TAKE THE SPOTLIGT OFF OF HIM! ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN RIGHT NOW. ITS A SORRY PLACE WE LIVE IN RIGHT NOW. O FOR THE GOOD OL DAYS!

[C_U_L8R]

10. It's all playground politics

yeah they're talking smack and getting all up in their (smaller) opponents face.
How else do you expect a republican schoolyard bully to behave?
And don't forget these clowns have penises.. tiny penises (even Condi)
and that makes for a particularly obnoxious bully.

Also it's a good bet that there's a whole boatload of diversioning going on...
they want to take the spotlight off their own incompetence (and crimes).
They operate best in a cloud of confusion,

The only way to deal with a bully is to join forces and take em down.
A good direct punch to the nose does wonders. Bwaaaaaaaaaa.
At heart, these chickenhawks are chickenshit.

[DrDebug]

11. Of course. Remember Panama

The reason for the invasion was the death of a U.S. soldier in Panama at a Panama Defense Forces roadblock on December 16. On December 20, 1989 the United States invaded Panama.

Yeah right, 4 days after the "incident" which according to many was one of many provoked incidents, the invasion of Panama started.

[Hubert Flottz]

13. Well They Do...

Have an election right round the corner! And...If they lose Bush will be history! So yes, for political reasons I think they would start a war with another country.