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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 10:10 PM
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A military insider sounds off against war & the "zealots" who pushed it
Why Iraq Was a Mistake
A military insider sounds off against the war and the "zealots" who pushed it
By LIEUT. GENERAL GREG NEWBOLD (RET.)
Posted Sunday, Apr. 09, 2006

Two senior military officers are known to have challenged Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on the planning of the Iraq war. Army General Eric Shinseki publicly dissented and found himself marginalized. Marine Lieut. General Greg Newbold, the Pentagon's top operations officer, voiced his objections internally and then retired, in part out of opposition to the war. Here, for the first time, Newbold goes public with a full-throated critique:


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From 2000 until October 2002, I was a Marine Corps lieutenant general and director of operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff. After 9/11, I was a witness and therefore a party to the actions that led us to the invasion of Iraq--an unnecessary war. Inside the military family, I made no secret of my view that the zealots' rationale for war made no sense. And I think I was outspoken enough to make those senior to me uncomfortable. But I now regret that I did not more openly challenge those who were determined to invade a country whose actions were peripheral to the real threat--al-Qaeda. I retired from the military four months before the invasion, in part because of my opposition to those who had used 9/11's tragedy to hijack our security policy. Until now, I have resisted speaking out in public. I've been silent long enough.

I am driven to action now by the missteps and misjudgments of the White House and the Pentagon, and by my many painful visits to our military hospitals. In those places, I have been both inspired and shaken by the broken bodies but unbroken spirits of soldiers, Marines and corpsmen returning from this war. The cost of flawed leadership continues to be paid in blood. The willingness of our forces to shoulder such a load should make it a sacred obligation for civilian and military leaders to get our defense policy right. They must be absolutely sure that the commitment is for a cause as honorable as the sacrifice.

With the encouragement of some still in positions of military leadership, I offer a challenge to those still in uniform: a leader's responsibility is to give voice to those who can't--or don't have the opportunity to--speak. Enlisted members of the armed forces swear their oath to those appointed over them; an officer swears an oath not to a person but to the Constitution. The distinction is important.

more at:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1181629,00.html
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 10:45 PM
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1. This is a very good op-ed piece and I am recommending it.
But I'm afraid the good general's effort is too little, too late. As long as the military's "leadership" is chosen because of their politics and their "can do!" spirit instead of their intelligence, honesty, and love of country (which means the Constitution) then we will get these weak-kneed Tommy Franks and Colin Powells and others who just say "Yes Sir!" even if the order is to spit on the Constitution. General Newbold sounds like a good man who is being weighted down by guilt; and he should be...
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:44 AM
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4. SO MUCH
is TOO LATE...
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 10:52 PM
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2. Thanks for posting.
I've never seen so many ranking officers speak out against US policy as we are seeing now. This ought to be raising a major red flag to all thinking Americans.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 12:31 AM
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3. meet the new boss, same as the old boss...
Won't Get Fooled Again

We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgment of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

The change, it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they are flown in the next war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
Though I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?

There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Are now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss ...



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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:52 AM
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5. Military Must Say "NO" to Bush....
Or we will be in WW III if they Nuke Iran...

No question about Bush HAS to be removed from office.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 09:01 AM
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6. Agreed. Bush must be removed.
But if Congress won't perform its duty to the Constitution, then what is the option? Just how "disgruntled" is the military becoming?
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 09:29 AM
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7. Another general speaks out. This post sank like an anvil.
Paul Eaton recently retired as a Major General in the U.S. Army having served as the Commandant of Ft. Benning Georgia and most recently in charge of training the Iraqi military from 2003 to 2004. He has been called "The Father of the Iraq Army".

"During World War II, American soldiers en route to Britain before D-Day were given a pamphlet on how to behave while awaiting the invasion. The most important quote in it was this: "It is impolite to criticize your host; it is militarily stupid to criticize your allies."

By that rule, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is not competent to lead our armed forces. First, his failure to build coalitions with our allies from what he dismissively called "old Europe" has imposed far greater demands and risks on our soldiers in Iraq than necessary. Second, he alienated his allies in our own military, ignoring the advice of seasoned officers and denying subordinates any chance for input.

In sum, he has shown himself incompetent strategically, operationally and tactically, and is far more than anyone else responsible for what has happened to our important mission in Iraq. Mr. Rumsfeld must step down. "

Read the rest here:

http://www.al.com/news/independent/index.ssf?/base/news/1144228507230270.xml&coll=4&thispage=3


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=892595&mesg_id=892595
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 09:37 AM
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8. Thanks for the link.
I hope these sorts of things get wide attention.
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:18 AM
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9. K&R
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