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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 10:34 PM
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First time I saw this but here is a "tin foil" to wrap around your heads.
Did the White House plan to 'find' WMD in Iraq until Brewster-Jennings intercepted their shipment? Was that why Plame was in their crosshairs long before Wilson's editorial?

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/4939

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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 10:37 PM
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1. It's inconceivable that they didn't try to plant WMDs.
If they successfully had, they'd have a lot more "political capital" right now.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 10:42 PM
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3. but really
how hard would it be to do that?
1. Go to the desert
2. Bury some old nerve gas canister that you can't tell me we don't have stashed somewhere in Wyoming
3. Schedule a patrol that way
4. "Doo da doo, Holy Shit! Look what we found!"
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 10:48 PM
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6. I guess they were looking for a fancier scenario.
:shrug:

Somewhere, someone's been remprimanded (at best) for screwing that project up.
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drdtroit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 11:29 PM
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7. They got caught ...
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 12:45 AM
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12. You need a large # of weapons to justify a war like this. Such a delivery
would require too many people involved, who could blab.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 12:14 AM
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8. They DID try to plant wmds in iraq. Here is an article that got buried.
Connecticut journalist Marie Coady incredulously reported this to
SPJ-L. To see the full story, go to
http://www.tehrantimes.com/archives.asp and search for March 13, 2004.

U.S. Unloading WMD in Iraq


TEHRAN (Mehr News Agency) – Over the past few days, in the wake of the bombings in Karbala and the ideological disputes that delayed the signing of Iraq’s interim constitution, there have been reports that U.S. forces have unloaded a large cargo of parts for constructing long-range missiles and weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in the southern ports of Iraq.

A reliable source from the Iraqi Governing Council, speaking on condition of anonymity, told the Mehr News Agency that U.S. forces, with the help of British forces stationed in southern Iraq, had made extensive efforts to conceal their actions.

He added that the cargo was unloaded during the night as attention was still focused on the aftermath of the deadly bombings in Karbala and the signing of Iraq’s interim constitution.

The source said that in order to avoid suspicion, ordinary cargo ships were used to download the cargo, which consisted of weapons produced in the 1980s and 1990s.

He mentioned the fact that the United States had facilitated Iraq’s WMD program during the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq and said that some of the weapons being downloaded are similar to those weapons, although international inspectors had announced Saddam Hussein’s Baath regime had destroyed all its WMD.

The source went on to say that the rest of the weapons were probably transferred in vans to an unknown location somewhere in the vicinity of Basra overnight.

“Most of these weapons are of Eastern European origin and some parts are from the former Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc. The U.S. obtained them through confiscations during sales of banned arms over the past two decades,” he said.

This action comes as certain U.S. and Western officials have been pointing out the fact that no weapons of mass destruction have been discovered in Iraq and the issue of Saddam’s trial begins to take center stage.

In addition, former chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix has emphasized that the U.S. and British intelligence agencies issued false reports on Iraq leading to the U.S. attack.

Meanwhile, the suspicious death of weapons inspector David Kelly is also an unresolved issue in Britain.

------Occupation Forces Official Claims to Have No Information About Transfer of WMD to Iraq -------

A security official for the coalition forces in Iraq said that he has not received any information about the unloading of weapons of mass destruction in ports in southern Iraq.

Shane Wolf told the Mehr News Agency that the occupation forces have received no reports on such events, but said he hoped that the coalition forces would find the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction one day.

Coalition forces and inspectors have so far been unable to find any Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. The U.S. invaded Iraq under the pretext that Iraq possessed a stockpile of weapons of mass destruction.



I saved this in my archives when it came out.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 12:36 AM
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10. And here's another reference re: plantingf WMD's
According to a retired Navy Lt Commander and 28-year veteran of the Defense Department (DoD), the US tried to plant WMDs but failed when the operation was taken out by "friendly fire".

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_12-8-2003_pg1_9
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 01:26 AM
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14. Dude, did you just post to an article in a Tehran newspaper?
..as an authoritative source? Um..
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 10:39 PM
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2. I can't wait to tell my mom tomorrow
She doesn't do computers, but she loves the info I feed her from the blogs.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 10:42 PM
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4. I thought Brewster-Jennings worked on Iran...
Either way, they can't let too much truth slip out. It would ruin their preconceived ideas for war.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 10:45 PM
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5. This starts to make a lot of sense - it answers a question I've had
How did Bush, Cheney and Libbey know who Plame was? Normally they'd have no reason to know the name of a particular CIA agent, right? But if that agent accidently stopped a covert operation......
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 12:22 AM
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9. It would be tin foil to think they DIDN'T try this stunt. nt
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 12:46 AM
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13. And Judy Miller was being readied
to blast it all over the New York Times. Then along came Jones...uh, I mean Joe.
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YouthInAsia Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 12:44 AM
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11. havent I been told that Wayne Madsen is unreliable?
Maybe Im thining of someone else/
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 11:15 AM
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15. i recall someone posting that the US took WMDs to Iraq that were stolen
and have fallen into the hands of insurgents or the so-called terrorists. It was posted that Israeli and US special ops had worked together to plant the WMDs and that is why Cheney was so insistent that there were WMDs long after it was proved that none were found. The administration stuck to this story for such a long time because they knew what was supposed to be found. Maybe the US was doubled crossed?
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 11:20 AM
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16. This theory has been talked about VERY intensely by all DU Plame buffs
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KAT119 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 11:41 AM
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17. BINGO!! Valerie Plame & her front company-Brewster-Jennings monitored
the world's nuke traffic, and were well aware of Veeps WMD 'planting' efforts-plus his selling of WMD's to all of our enemies which is strictly illegal & treasonous. This was WH idea of a two-fer=both Valerie & Joe Wilson-ergo-Veeps OBSESSION.
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