Ousted IDOL contestant will not preform with them for supporters of gays

[Maraya1969]

Mandisa Says She's Not a Gay 'Advocate'
By Associated Press

Fri Apr 7, 7:49 PM

Mandisa Hundley, 29 ...

NEW YORK - Is ousted "American Idol" contestant Mandisa anti-gay? The 29-year-old soul singer and outspoken Christian, who was voted off the hit Fox show Wednesday, says she would not perform at an event held in support of the gay community.

Mandisa, a native of Antioch, Tenn., tells Advocate magazine, "Based on what I believe, I'm not an advocate for (being gay), so it's nothing I would take part in."

Still, she says in an interview in the magazine's Web site, she's "really upset" by speculation she endorses the ex-gay movement _ a collection of Christian groups that seek to alter sexual orientation. The speculation stemmed from comments she made on the "American Idol" Web site praising author and speaker Beth Moore, of Living Proof Ministries. Moore's Web site has links to groups such as Exodus International that discourage homosexuality.

"It broke my heart," Mandisa says. "I live my life by the value system that you treat others the way you want to be treated. I let love be my guide. I absolutely hate no one."

Long a favorite of "Idol" judges, she says her views "could have contributed" to her surprising elimination. "Idol" contestants are trimmed weekly based on fan voting.

"Honestly, I'm not sure," she says. "I've heard a lot of different theories about what could have happened, and all of 'em sound pretty decent to me."

http://www.comcast.net/music/index.jsp?cat=MUSIC&fn=/2006/04/07/363570.html&cvqh=buzz_mandisa

[Maraya1969]

1. Here is her photo

I am sure this woman knows what it feels like to be judged for who you are. I think IDOL needs to ask more questions before they pick out their final 12 contestants.

After she did that preaching thing a few weeks ago I wanted her off the show and I think her preaching helped get her kicked off.

I hope they kick her off the whole tour if she is refusing to sing at certain venues.

This just burns me. :nuke:

[TechBear_Seattle]

2. "I absolutely hate no one."

That's because Talibangelicals do not see their bigotry as hatred. They love homosexuals, and are bound and determine to convert every last one to Christian heterosexuality or kill them trying.

[baby_mouse]

8. LOVING castration

LOVING imprisonment
LOVING destruction of long-term relationships
LOVING denial of the deceased's wishes
LOVING experimental hormone therapy
LOVING attitude re-adjustment camps

LOVE, LOVE, LOVE I feel so LOVED, don't you?

You know, I don't think my idea of love is broad enough to encompass the reality of these people, maybe I should start LOVING them BACK.

:nuke:

LOVING mushroom clouds

[AndyA]

3. Some people are so quick to discriminate against others.

Somehow, they justify it's OK in their own minds. And quite often these very same people are discriminated against because of their skin color, appearance, etc. I don't see the difference. Discrimination is discrimination. And it's always wrong.

I remember a black female radio host in California appeared on TV in the days before the 2004 elections talking out about how gays should not have the right to get married, adopt children, have visitation rights, etc., and I thought to myself, "You more than anyone should see that this is wrong. How quickly people forget."

Sad.

[Zenlitened]

4. "I live my life by the value system that you treat others the way...

"I live my life by the value system that you treat others the way you want to be treated."

:wow:

She wants to be treated like a second-class citizen?

Um... step right up, I guess. :shrug:

[TechBear_Seattle]

14. If you think whines about "persecuting Christians" is bad now...

I shudder to think of how loud and bitter it would be if people started doing unto them as they insist is their religious duty to do unto others.

[Maraya1969]

15. I wonder if there is a concerted way we could "Boycott the Bigots"

The guy down the street from me said he would not watch Broke back Mountain or Will and Grace because they are about gay people. I wonder how he'd feel if I straight up told him he was not welcome in my house because my religion is against bigotry. Or if his kid was selling girl scout cookies and I told him I wouldn't buy them because his family was a bigot family.

[Ian David]

5. Remember Kris Gillespie on the Wife Swap show?

When Conservatives Attack: Wife Swap's Lesbian Episode
by Malinda Lo, February 10, 2005



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Mrs. Gillespie hails from a fundamentalist, Republican family from Texas in which she stays at home to raise three kids, while her husband, Brian, brings home the bacon. Their household is meticulously organized around “excellence,” and involves a lot of obsessive straightening of silverware and strictly timed chores. The Gillespie kids—Michael (age 16), Jackson (14), and Catherine (12)—are frighteningly well-behaved and do their chores without complaint. Although the Gillespie home is impressively mansion-like, it also feels eerily like Stepford.

<snip>

But what’s unexpected is the degree of hostility that Kris Gillespie expresses toward Nicki and Kristine. “They’re depraved,” she says of Nicki and Kristine, “and I really take offense.” The level of her disgust and hatred toward lesbians and gays is shocking and disturbing. Despite the turn toward conservatism that the U.S. has been experiencing during the Bush Administration, openly expressing hatred for gays and lesbians on television is generally taboo, and extremely politically incorrect.

The fact that Kris Gillespie spat out her vitriolic words without apparent fear of repercussion is sad, because it implies that she lives in a world in which her opinion is that of the majority.

But this episode did more than expose the massive divide between conservatives and liberals regarding gay issues. It also brought to light contentious issues about gay parenting; it fumbled through a debate about whether gay rights is equivalent to civil rights; it tackled the decades-old struggle over whether stay-at-home moms are better than working mothers at raising children; and it contrasted traditional child-rearing techniques with new-age ones. Given the fact that Wife Swap is only an hour long (with commercials), none of these issues could be satisfactorily resolved, but it’s impressive that the duo of Kris and Kristine raised so many of them.

<snip>

Kris’s opinions—which seem based in good old-fashioned stereotyping and homophobia—are not backed by scientific evidence. A recent study released in December 2004 by the University of Virginia and the University of Arizona found that children of gay parents were no different than children of straight parents, other than the unexpected finding that they were more likely to be involved in school activities. Other studies of this issue have produced similar results.

<snip>

Earlier in the episode, after Kristine came out to Brian and his children, Brian admitted that “The gay lifestyle is not consistent with our Christian beliefs. But having said that,” he continued, “people should not be treated in anything but an honoring way regardless of their beliefs. I know that in our church, that if our pastor every found anybody treating anyone with anything less than dignity and respect, that he would be extremely disappointed in them.”

If what Brian said is true, then Kris Gillespie’s pastor must be pretty disappointed in her right now.


More:
http://www.afterellen.com/TV/2005/2/wifeswap.html

Yep.

An inter-racially married woman who thinks gays shouldn't be allowed to get married...

See:

Loving v. Virginia
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967), was a case in which the United States Supreme Court declared Virginia's anti-miscegenation statute, the "Racial Integrity Act of 1924", unconstitutional, thereby ending all race-based legal restriction on marriage in the United States.

More:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia



See also:

'Wife Swap' takes a nasty turn

Kevin McDonough
United Feature Syndicate
February 9, 2005

Tonight's "Wife Swap" (10 p.m., ABC) plunges deep into the swamp of the so-called "culture wars." And the results are not pretty.
http://www.s-r.com/features/story.asp?ID=52881


Also:

Hypocrite, Thy Name is Kris – Kris Gillespie from ‘Wife Swap’
by Kara Wild -- 02/14/2005
Wife Swap is well-known for trading between families at polar opposites – rich and poor, religious and non, strict and relaxed. But when they swapped ultra-conservative religious wife Kris Gillespie with lesbian Kristine Luffey, viewers got more than they bargained for. In particular, Kris came off as one of the most mean-spirited, judgmental, and hypocritical people to ever appear on our TV sets.

<snip>

Yet rather than consider that hostility toward lesbian relationships could be as misplaced as hostility toward her own, Kris just insisted that her situation was completely different because Nicki and Kristine could "pass" as straights and be treated as equals, while blacks pre-Civil Rights Era could not. In some respects she had a point, but as Nicki rightly pointed out, why should she want to pretend to be something she's not? Would it change the fact that society discriminated against her for no reason other than the gender of her partner? Did light-skinned blacks who "passed" in white society pre-Civil War ever feel truly accepted?


More:
http://www.realitytvhallofshame.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article1083.art&page=1



Also:

Meet Kris Gillespie
This lovely woman was on Wife Swap last night. A staunch Republican, she was forced to spend a week in a (gasp) lesbian household. She ended up basically spewing hateful bile ("gay people molest children") and really just being a caricature of Texas Republicans. Oh yeah, and she made her new household display a Republican lawn ornament.

<snip>

By the way, the husband "makes a great deal of money" from a fucking telemarketing company!
http://www.tmcnet.com/articles/ccsmag/0699/0699whoswho1.htm#e
(so really they doubly deserve to go to Hell)

The name of company? Destination Excellence. Kris loves the word "excellence".
http://destex.com/Home.html

Anyway, the lovely Kris can be reached by email at [e-mail].
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:c_6GYZe-LDMJ:www.nwaustinrepublicanwomen.org/career-empowerment-pr.htm+kgillespie%40destex.com&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1


Note: Damn, this is almost too easy. It took me about 7 minutes to figure out, from public records of course, their home address and home telephone...LOL!

More:
http://www.frenchbenj.com/blog/2005/02/meet-kris-gillespie.html

[Maraya1969]

9. If you get Tivo can you go back and watch these things after they

air. I would LOVE to see that episode and I have been considering Tivo for a while but I don't know whether I should spend the money.

People say a lot of nasty things about reality TV but some of the things I have seen really blow my mind. I like being able to be a fly on the wall and see how others live their lives.

[Ino]

11. Tivo is great!

But you can't go back and watch something after it's aired unless you recorded it when it aired! That being said, I loooove my Tivo and it's well worth every penny!

[EOTE]

16. Saw that episode...

It was hard to watch sometimes. That republican lady was outright OBNOXIOUS! Apparently she's never read any parts of the bible that mention modesty, because that lady was the most arrogant, boastful person I've ever seen. She was unbelievably mean and rude too. She mentioned in writing that she goes about confronting people in the most respectful manner possible. Absolute bullshit. She was so mean and rude to both of the moms, I wouldn't have had the restraint not to let loose on her.

Luckily, that lady was so bad that she made fundy republicans look as bad as they really are and gave a sympathetic light to the lesbian parents. Much like Ann Coulter, sometimes these people are their own worst enemies.

[Patsy Stone]

6. Let's remember how well

that worked out for Donna Summer. :crazy:

[Maraya1969]

10. Did Donna Summer come out against gays?

Hey I just realized the pun in what I said: "come out against gays"

They are closet homophobes! How many actually will be honest about their FEELINGS unless trapped into a corner or caught?

[Patsy Stone]

13. There was a statement floating around that she

after had found Christ she said something to the effect of AIDS is in the gay community due to a reckless lifestyle. Whether she meant it as anti-gay or not, it took on a life of its own and, now, nothing she says or tries to do about it makes it go away.

[Hobarticus]

7. If she'd won, would she have turned down gay record sales?

Mmmmmmmmm....doubt it.

And if you did indeed get booted for your views...judge not, lest you be judged.

[Maraya1969]

12. Well I will remember if she ever puts out a CD. I'm boycotting her

before she gets started.

And what you said is SOOO true about homophobes. They are so sure of their beliefs that they stay right on the band wagon until the money comes out.

[Richard Steele]

17. "I won't associate with no Gays" + "I plan a career in the music industry"

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