How low can she go? re Cindy Sheehan

[Submariner]

My 'so-called' brother veterans, the bushbots of course, are laying into Cindy Sheehan again, this time about her blowing through some insurance money for a car, etc., and not getting her son a grave marker. They liken her to Hanoi Jane.

"I'm not doing this for Casey. Casey's already dead. I wish I would have done it for Casey before he was killed." - Cindy Sheehan

Of course she's not doing it for Casey. Mother Sheehan has already gone through Casey’s $250,000 insurance payout like a drunken sailor on shore leave, but her poor son doesn’t even have a marker on his grave.

…Cindy Sheehan recently “treated herself” to a brand new Volkswagen Beetle convertible. She still can’t be bothered to buy a grave marker for her son, though.

What kind of mother would leave her son to lie in an unmarked grave? This has to be one of the worst things I have ever heard. It makes me want to cry.

Posted by LindaSoG at March 8, 2006 08:52 PM

http://www.lindasog.com/archives/2006/03/how_low_can_she.html

Any DU'ers have a more factual presentation I can slam these these bigots with...thanks in advance.

[wtmusic]

1. Don't waste your time nt

[sheelz]

2. What's the big deal about an unmarked grave.

I prefer my grave unmarked in simple green burial in a wood or field instead. It's none of their fucking business.

[guidod]

30. I agree!

Wrap me in a cloth and bury me in the mountains near a lake. Mark my grave by planting a tree.

[Scout1071]

3. That story is disgusting.

Cindy has addressed the grave marker. She feels like his grave site may be vandalized or publicized. And she's right. Freepers are sick.

This shit has been debunked over and over again.

[JuniperLea]

11. I've heard her say that as well

It's nobody's business how a mother feels or behaves after a child's death. Personally, I don't think I could bring myself to even pick out a stupid headstone!


They have nothing of substance, nothing real they can hang their hatred onto, so they go for personal insults. That hate they spout will come back to them harder, nastier and more vindictive than they gave it. Karma happens, don't ever doubt that.

[Redstone]

4. Why does the GOVERNMENT allow a soldier to have an unmarked grave?

Isn't it the GOVERNMENT's responsibility, given that he died in the service of his GOVERNMENT's policy?

Ask thos assholes that.

Redstone

[MADem]

21. See post 20 n/t

[babylonsister]

5. That is disgustingly hateful. nt

[movonne]

12. Everyone of these rethugs are disgustingly hateful..

[cynatnite]

6. It's her right to either have a marker or not

It's also no one's business in how a family member chooses to deal with their loved one's grave.

They don't like that and they don't like the fact she bought a car.

Fuck them! This kind of crap deserves no response. There's no way in hell I would lower myself to that much to answer their self-righteous crap.

[Iris]

8. oh - funny - read my post below, cynatnite

Are we on the same wavelength, or what?

[Iris]

7. Fuck them.

She has the right to put a gravemarker on her son's grave or NOT put one there. It's none of their goddamned business. If they want Casey to have a gravemarker, why don't they get off of their fat asses and get one for him?

[bdamomma]

29. very true

this government put Casey there, and plus it is none of their business. they love to impose their will on other people don't they? sickening.

[Iris]

34. welcome to DU!

I don't usually drop the f-bomb, but this one just rubbed me the wrong way!

[OzarkDem]

9. Pardon me if I don't fall for this

Sounds like a lot of crap.

I'm surprised someone would post something like this on DU. Free Republic, maybe, but not DU.

[nini]

10. I thought she said he does have a marker.. though it is small

regardless - what business is it of theirs? Could be they are all so psycho she's afraid they'd vandalize his grave to get to her? Look what that asshole did at Camp Casey when he ran down all the grave markers there - NOTHING is beyond those people :grr:

[dogday]

13. Why do you go there?? it is Gross!!! nt

[Submariner]

26. I go to a submarine veterans message board

for the boat stuff and sea stories with like-minded subvets. However, they are older Vietnam era types like myself and get off on their bushbot rants that I usually ignore, but this rant one sucked bad and I want to rebut it and the link. The post that Cindy did not want a grave marker because of fear of vandalism is good enough for me.

[Hekate]

27. There are a lot of google entries on Cindy, if you want to

Cindy visited Arlington West in Santa Barbara over this past weekend, for the second anniversary of her son's death. We think she's a treasure, frankly.

The SB-VFP is very active locally, and AW is where Cindy came on the Mother's Day following her son's death, and where she vowed to become an activist. She won our hearts the day that she drove all the way from Vacaville to SB with her family, to lay flowers and pray at her son's cross in the sand. And by the way, if anyone you know has a problem with AW, be it known that many, many of the 2300+ named crosses have been visited by people who knew the deceased personally, and who took comfort in this memorial, just as Cindy has.

Did you know that when Cindy left Crawford Texas at the end of Bush's vacation there, she was instrumental is seeing that all of the leftover donations of food and water were loaded onto the bus The White Rose (owned and operated by some VFP vets) and sent directly to the Gulf Coast for the victims of Hurricane Katrina? I think Michael Moore's website did a write-up on the guys of the White Rose.

Hekate

[400Years]

28. IT's none of their godddamn business.

[Fleshdancer]

14. Is there a manual for how a mother is suppose to bury her child?

Because I didn't get one the day my daughter was born. I need to get on the "appropriate way to bury your baby" mailing list. How am I suppose to know what kind of grave marker to buy? What flowers are acceptable to place on the grave of my child? Now with the insurance money, I can't purchase a vehicle apparently so what can I use it for? Is there a list of shit I can't purchase? Will my bank statements suddenly belong to the public if I bury my child AND have a strong opinion about the way she died? What's the protocol exactly?

:eyes:

[Hekate]

19. Gloria gets the prize for best response, imo

[Fleshdancer]

23. why thank you Hekate

obviously sarcasm is my first line of defense when I read something this infuriating. :hi:

[Union Thug]

15. none of anyone's business. n\t

[The Witch]

16. that blog won't let me comment.

rat bastards. :-(

[Hekate]

17. Please don't post without quote marks or > otherwise it looks like you

Please don't post without quote marks or > otherwise it looks like you are the one saying this. And it's really upsetting, to say the least.

Or, maybe don't drag that stuff in here in the first place. Just a thought.

Hekate

[patdem]

18. WOW a $250,000 VW Beetle..never thought I'd see the day!

must be the convertable model?

[ContraBass Black]

22. That's about 10 and a half beetles.

With options.

[DianaForRussFeingold]

25. Cindy like her son is a HERO...

Linda,It is none of your bussiness. Are you A mother of a Dead Troop,If not, then how can you judge...Cindy is a HERO...Here's something for you,lyin dubya Doll ;http://www.peacecandy.com/gwbush/dishonestdubya/

[Crankie Avalon]

31. An $18,000 to $20,000, fuel efficient Volkswagon Beetle, extravagant...

...a $60,000 or $70,000, bottomless gas tanked Ford Expedition, sensible (just make sure there's a ribbon magnet on the ass-end of it). :crazy:

[MADem]

20. Uh, the marker for the grave is provided by the military

It's a standard issue. You can pick between stone and metal, but the selection choice is rather limited. The cost for installation must be paid by the family if, and only if, the remains are interred in a private cemetery. If the remains are in a military cemetery, or a military section of a cemetery that is supported by the VA, then the military pays.

Shows how little they know.

When burial or memorialization is in a national, post, or state veterans’ cemetery, a headstone or marker will be ordered by the cemetery officials based on inscription information provided by the next of kin.

When burial is in a private cemetery, VA Form 40-1330, Application for Standard Government Headstone or Marker (PDF), must be submitted by the next of kin or a representative, such as funeral director, cemetery official or veterans counselor, along with veterans military discharge documents, to request a Government-provided headstone or marker. Do not send original documents, as they will not be returned.

http://www.cem.va.gov/hmorder.htm

When I buried my military parent, it took over a year for the marker to arrive. And we weren't at war then.

[sinkingfeeling]

24. So, LindaSoG, are you Cindy's accountant? How do you how much

insurance money Cindy's spent? Now I can understand about people blowin' through money like a drunken sailor on shore leave....Chimpy loves spending $billions a day.

[proud2BlibKansan]

32. Cindy's response - email she sent out Monday:

I am so tired of the Rovian, heartless, and ignorant smear machine attacking me and my family at every turn of my back.

The latest abomination in their scrutiny of my life is the fact that Casey has no "tombstone." As if it was anybody's business but Casey's family. I am sure every last person who has a problem with this has buried a child and they know what we are going through.

I am being smeared because I have a new car and I have "blown" through "$250,000.00" dollars of Casey's insurance money. I am sure that they have ready access to my bank accounts, too. I know I am writing this to compassionate people who would rather focus on an administration who lies, tortures, kills innocent people using conventional and chemical weapons, spies on its citizens without due process, and is treacherous in outing a CIA operative for petty-high school like revenge thereby endangering her, her family, and her fellow CIA agents. If it wasn't for these criminals my son wouldn't need a tombstone.

I will tell the world why Casey has no marker yet. In the first place, does anyone who is attacking me know how Casey was brought home from Iraq? We picked him up in the United loading dock in a cardboard box and he was off-loaded into a hearse without one honor guard. We had to wait for about a half hour on a curb near the United freight area while we waited for his one escort that rode from Dover Air Force Base in a seat, while Casey was treated as an over-sized piece of luggage. Has anybody held their other sobbing children while sitting on a curb in San Francisco waiting for the remains of their big brother to be carried over to the dock by a forklift?

Our so-called, illegitimate president has never attended a funeral nor can families see the pictures of their loved ones as they are hauled like freight with flags on them from an immoral war zone. WE don't see them because Mama Bush doesn't want to "bother her pretty mind" with the images. America doesn't want to be bothered, either. We had a Casualty Officer who abandoned us when our mortuary refused to pay the cemetery and told us that the "government sent the money to the mortuary, so now it is your problem. You may have to sue the mortuary." Our government discards and dishonors its own.

My Casey wasn't always a soldier. He was a son and brother whose murder has left an aching hole in our lives worse than an amputation. Sooner, or later, amputations heal and quit throbbing, this hole never will, or can, heal.

For the first year after Casey was killed, I didn't want to believe it. I didn't want to place a TOMBstone on my son's grave. I didn't want one more marble proof that my son was dead. I couldn't even call where he was buried a "cemetery," I had to call it "Casey's Park." I placed fresh flowers in the cup every week and journaled there almost on a daily basis, and often laid on it and fell asleep and dreamed of my needlessly killed son. Have any of these people who claim that I am pissing on my son's grave even visited him? Have they visited the grave of any soldier needlessly or senselessly killed in George's war of choice for oil and profit? Have they sobbed uncontrollably for my first born who shouldn't even need a gravestone? No, all they want to do is attack a mother who wants to prevent other people from having to bury their own child. They want to perpetuate a war that has already killed many thousands of our fellow human beings for absolutely nothing.

Casey's shell is buried in Vacaville, California, not his spirit. He lives with me and he is constantly with me as I travel the world so other families, Iraqi or American do not have to bury their children. Casey lives in the hearts of everyone who wants peace and works for peace. He will never truly die.

There are many people who the Bush regime have killed either directly, or indirectly, by their murderous policies: there are people buried under rubble of Iraq and were buried under the rubble of the World Trade Towers and if their families were lucky could find small parts to bury, before their remains were carted away in the enormous trucks and barges; there are people still unaccounted for in the swamps of New Orleans and in refrigerated trucks in Mississippi that will never even have graves, let alone gravestones. The Bush regime is good for business, all right, especially the funeral business.

I know these people are searching for proof that I am a horrible person and it must be evidence that I didn't love Casey if he doesn't have a marker. I know that they can't support a criminal regime that is slipping into fascism, so they have to attack a mom for the "crime" of being broken hearted and trying to save lives.

What they don't know is that they can't stop me from trying to save lives. No matter what they cook up next.

It is too important. No more needless gravestones. No more wasted lives.

[bunkerbuster1]

33. "It makes me want to cry." Yeah, sure it does.

Nothing more pathetic than a phony dose of "compassion" from a ReThug.

What a pig.