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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:01 PM
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Best. Dittohead. Slapdown. Ever.
MICHAEL SAYS: 3. They do not register for selective service and do not serve in the military - forcing legal Americans to defend them.

ALISA SAYS: Sigh. According the U.S. government, all male immigrants – legal and otherwise – are required by U.S. law to register for selective service.

According to the National Center for Immigration Law, one in ten U.S. soliders who have DIED in Iraq have been immigrants. Five percent of those serving in our military are illegal immigrants.

The first soldier to die for the United States in the current war in Iraq was Marine Lance Cpl. Jose Gutierrez, an illegal immigrant from Guatemala.

He died for you.

You are not in Iraq fighting for anyone. You are home, sending lie-riddled missives to strangers at 3 a.m. on your computer.

Enough said.



The entirety of the carnage is here at La Queen Sucia's Blog.

That absolutely freaking rocked.
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:03 PM
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1. you cannot serve in the military if you are illegal
but you can if you have legal status as a non citizen...it might not be the best slapdown actually.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:13 PM
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2. Foreign nationals can join the US military, though
and use that as a stepping stone to becoming legal immigrants.

I know several who did that in the 80s.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:16 PM
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3. Well, you are not SUPPOSED to serve in the military if you are illegal
But let me tell you, it happens. Best way to slide by is to find a kid who is illegal, has very good forged paperwork, no arrests, and is inducted in an area that is not SWARMING with illegals.

The ENTNAC comes back clean, the FBI check comes back clean, so long as he is in a specialty that does not mandate anything beyond a confidential clearance, he's in like Flynn.

It happens. Some get caught--and plenty don't:

The report says an investigation began on August 11, 2004, after an intelligence report by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency revealed that a Marine at Camp Pendleton in California, who had admitted to entering the United States illegally and enlisting with a counterfeit green card and stolen Social Security number, identified Lucas as the individual who charged her $250 for the documents for the purpose of effecting her fraudulent enlistment in the Marine Corps.

During an interview, the Marine told immigration authorities that she bought the counterfeit documents from people in New York City who told her they’d be delivered to a specific hotel in Miami and to await further instructions. Those eventual instructions were to enlist at the Marine recruiting sub-station in Perrine in Miami-Dade County, Florida. According to the report, the recruit also said she “engaged in a consensual sexual relationship” with Lucas. (One of the charges against Lucas is that he housed one or more prospective recruits in his personal quarters.)

Her accusations prompted a review of recruiting activity at the Perrine sub-station. According to the report, investigators found 23 recruits who may have fraudulently entered the Marine Corps. Twenty suspect alien registration numbers, along with Social Security numbers for all 23 recruits, were queried through federal databases. It turned out that every single one was “either completely fraudulent or assigned to a different person.” The investigation later identified three more alien recruits suspected of fraudulently enlisting.

The charges against Lucas span from late 2001 to mid-2004, and include fraudulent enlistment, conspiracy to commit fraud, and dereliction of duty. Potential sanctions include dishonorable discharge, several years’ jail time and forfeiture of pay, according to a Marine Corps spokesman.


http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0540,gillison,68594,2.html
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:30 PM
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4. Like being an illegal immigrant is going to stop today's
quota-hungry recruiter seeing another bonus slip away . . . we already have it on tape how they would get around drug convictions . . . what's a lack of a green card between "friends"?
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