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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 08:58 AM
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MORE FILINGS EXPECTED IN CIA CASE (NYT)
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 09:28 AM by kpete
April 11, 2006
White House Memo
With One Filing, Prosecutor Puts Bush in Spotlight
By DAVID E. SANGER and DAVID JOHNSTON

With more filings expected from Mr. Fitzgerald, the prosecutor's work has the potential to keep the focus on Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney at a time when the president is struggling with his lowest approval ratings since he took office.

Even on Monday, Mr. Bush found himself in an uncomfortable spot during an appearance at a Johns Hopkins University campus in Washington, when a student asked him to address Mr. Fitzgerald's assertion that the White House was seeking to retaliate against Mr. Wilson.

Mr. Bush stumbled as he began his response before settling on an answer that sidestepped the question. He said he had ordered the formal declassification of the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq in July 2003 because "it was important for people to get a better sense for why I was saying what I was saying in my speeches" about Iraq's efforts to reconstitute its weapons program.

Mr. Bush said nothing about the earlier, informal authorization that Mr. Fitzgerald's court filing revealed. The prosecutor described testimony from Mr. Libby, who said Mr. Bush had told Mr. Cheney that it was permissible to reveal some information from the intelligence estimate, which described Mr. Hussein's efforts to acquire uranium.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/11/washington/11leak.html?ei=5065&en=bfc9f24ecf86e6b3&ex=1145419200&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print

and -
The Chicago Tribune “gets it” today:
Answers, Mr. Cheney

We now know, however, that the leak itself was anything but solid. In the first place, the charge about Hussein’s quest for uranium was not among the four “key judgments” of the assessment. In the second place, far from confirming that allegation, the report said the evidence was “inconclusive.”

Why would someone in the White House want to perpetrate this sort of deception? Excusing the failure to find the forbidden weapons is one explanation. Another, offered by prosecutor Fitzgerald, is that it was part of a “concerted action” to “discredit, punish or seek revenge” against Wilson.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-0604110280apr11,0,2762625.story?coll=chi-newsopinion-hed
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:00 AM
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1. I hope they're quaking in their boots. Finally! nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:01 AM
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2. There you go!
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:01 AM
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3. just read it - nothing new so to speak, but
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 09:02 AM by stop the bleeding
as long as the right parts stay front and center the better for us.

Mr. Fitzgerald's filing talks not of an effort to level with Americans but of "a plan to discredit, punish or seek revenge against Mr. Wilson." It concludes, "It is hard to conceive of what evidence there could be that would disprove the existence of White House efforts to 'punish Wilson.' "
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:03 AM
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5. That is how I see it also
that was my favorite part too

"It is hard to conceive of what evidence there could be that would disprove the existence of White House efforts to 'punish Wilson.' "
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:04 AM
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6. I agree. This, along with the discussion of Brewster Jennings
needs to stay in the forefront.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:26 AM
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13. Too true about Brewster Jennings - Mr Prez, why did you authorize
that leak when it destroyed the only CIA assests we had that could tell us about Iran's nuclear programs?
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 08:25 PM
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25. YES!!! This is THE question I want someone to ask!
Perfectly short, simple and direct.

"Mr Prez, why did you authorize that leak when it destroyed the only CIA assests we had that could tell us about Iran's nuclear programs?"


Please Please PLEEEZE!
Someone get a hold of the microphone and ask that question.



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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:05 AM
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17. Absolutely. We want people to be aware of this. We can't let
this get lost in the shuffle.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:10 AM
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19. There's some information here that's new to me--
One effort — the July 18 declassification of the major conclusions of the intelligence estimate — was taking place in public, while another, Mr. Fitzgerald argues, was happening in secret, with only Mr. Bush, Mr. Cheney and Mr. Libby involved.

and


Mr. Fitzgerald said he was preparing to turn over to Mr. Libby 1,400 pages of handwritten notes — some presumably in Mr. Libby's own hand — that could shed light on two very different efforts at getting out the White House story.


When will more filings come?!
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:08 PM
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21. I'm guessing sometime in May or early June we will see some
addtional indictments(Rove and Hadley), but we may have a proceedural filing here or there in the mean time.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:02 AM
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4. I want more indictments n/t
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:05 AM
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7. Gigadittoes - Bring the indictments on
Commence the perp walks
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:06 AM
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8. why does the name Libby remind me of LIDDY?
who was G. Gordon Liddy? hehehe
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:16 AM
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11. Nobody would have ever, ever called Liddy "Scooter"
They're totally different people who both worked for psychopaths.

Liddy is your basic paranoid spook - think about the Flagg character in MASH. He could lay a cigarette on his arm and let it burn him while carrying on a conversation.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:20 AM
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12. maybe it's that SPYGATE reminds me of WATERGATE! I hope it ends the same
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:00 PM
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20. I want it to end differently
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 12:02 PM by formercia
I want those crooks to go to jail for a very long time. Nixon got off with just being able to resign. He went on to have a fairly normal life and lived quite well.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:08 PM
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22. There's A Reason For That
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:06 AM
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9. K.&.R.!!!
:kick::woohoo:
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Talismom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:07 AM
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10. Maybe when Diebold gives 'em the 2006 elections anyway,
people will start to ask questions...nah! Ferget it! Just hoping for a minute.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:46 AM
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14. hey chicago trib..here is the answer to your question..........

Why would someone in the White House want to perpetrate this sort of deception?

BREWSTER JENNINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and cheney !!!!!!!!!

read this thread chicago trib..and you might want to tell the american people the truth!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x894299

the chicago trib or none of the media will "get it" until they tell of the treason perpetrated against all who worked under the covert operation of BREWSTER JENNINGS!

fly
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:58 AM
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15. Goody!
What a nice way to start the day.

K&R for Fitz -- who will save America.

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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:59 PM
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26. Here's for Hope
that Fitz will save America, Patsy.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:03 AM
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16. I guess, since Bush was never under oath, he can't be tried for perjury?
Make these bastards testify under oath: Bush, Cheney, Condi, Rumsfeld
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:06 AM
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18. you are correct, but he can still be tried for obstruction of justice -
they both carry a five year sentence, basically they are the same - one is with an oath and the other is without
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:18 PM
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23. I'm imagining this press conference
Something along the lines of:

"Go *uck yourself, next question"

"to suggest we did anything inappropriate would be grounds for having to go *uck yourself. Next question"

"Why did we leak about Iraq and Wilson, but not reveal anything about our secret subversion of the Constitution with domestic wiretapping and spying on the citizenry... the answer lies in the realm of going and *ucking yourself"

"If we hate leaks, why do we organize them all the time? Because we think sometimes ya'll forget just how important it is to *fuck yourself. Mr. Gannon next question."

"Yes, as Vice President, I shouldn't have to deal with an obviously rabid liberal media. I'm going back to the cave and feeding the *ucking penguins"

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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:45 PM
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24. kick
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:59 PM
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27. kick
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