Trouble in Freeperland...

[janx]

:rofl:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1612942/posts


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1613055/posts


and


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/browse

(See the poll at bottom right for this last link.)

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Please post quotes -- most of us won't go there.

[janx]

2. OK--give me a minute...

:rofl:

[NVMojo]

How old is your cute puppy? We have one and she is almost 18 months

I love these dogs! Weimaraners, that is. Not freepers.

[janx]

9. He's almost six now!

I've never had a better dog and am considering getting another one so that he won't be lonely when I'm at work.

[Roon]

52. Janx

My parents raise these dogs and I can tell you right now that getting another one would be a big mistake. Weims are attention starved and if they think they are getting shorted on attention, they get mean.

I would recommend keeping the one so it can get all the attention and doesn't have to compete for it.

[janx]

6. Here's one from the site's founder--a guy who was a Dem

in 1990 or so...He seems worried that some freepers are abandoning the GOP.

Just a reminder: Free Republic is a conservative site. We fight for conservative principles, values and causes. We defend the Constitution. We defend our borders. We defend our God-given rights. We are opposed to the liberal/socialist/Marxist agenda for America. We do not willingly give up ground to the Marxists.

It's true that the illegal immigration issue is very discouraging, and I don't know if anyone has a solution that will appeal to conservatives and yet manage to get by Democrat obstructionism, ie, a filibuster, but I don't see that as any reason to give up everything. We should not allow it to rip us apart and destroy the movement. We fight on.

We hold the majority. We continue working as hard as we possibly can to elect as many conservatives as we possibly can. We build a conservative majority that can overcome the Democrats and the RINOs. We do not willingly give up any seats to Democrats. We add seats. Preferably, conservative seats.

I would also like to remind everyone, that Free Republic does not condone racism and does not advocate violence. We exercise our first amendment rights to free speech and peaceable assembly. We do not condemn people because of their race, religion, ethnicity, skin color, etc. We do not advocate civil war, anarchy, or an overthrow of the government. We do not advocate shooting illegals or mining the borders. We do not appreciate people coming across our borders illegally, but as conservatives, we do not issue racial epithets or threaten them with violence or bodily harm.

And, yes, we are at war. And we do support our troops and their mission. We also respect our commander-in-chief and are mindful that when people disrespect him, it hurts troop morale. We do not appreciate the mainstream media's attempts to destroy America's will to fight and we do not do anything to assist the Democrats and their accomplices in the media in their treasonous mission of undermining the war effort by providing aid and comfort to the enemy.

[KansDem]

14. What "rights" did God give us?

We were at the mercy of every King and potentate that ruled over us. Where was God then? The Charters of Freedom gave us our rights, not God.

on edit: "We defend our God-given rights."--This freeper needs a lesson in US history.

[janx]

16. It doesn't matter!

:spank:

It sounds good, so it doesn't matter!

[novalib]

45. From The Declaration of Independence

"We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that amonmg these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

I think that some might argue that that suggests that God gave us the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

[Iris]

76. But did God write the constitution?

Jeez. I'm so sick of people acting like America has a special place in God's heart just because we say it does.

[question everything]

18. My immediate reaction, too

The only rights that we have are the one spelled in the Constitution and in the Bill or Rights and those not specifically prohibited.

As much as they would like to place their bible, their god (which one, the one that promises eternal salvation to suicide bombers) has the final say, not in this country. Yet.

[KansDem]

25. Hey, QE...did you every notice that there has been no mention...

...regarding the safety of the Charters of Freedom on 9/11? Who knows if the attackers might have been aiming for the National Archives. Imagine the propaganda value of taking out the very documents that brought democracy to the American people.

Yet in all the news reports and articles of pundits and politicos' talk shows across the political spectrum, not one mention (to my knowledge) of someone reporting on what happened on that tragic day to assure the Charters were secure.

I find the absence of any reports regarding the safety of the Charters to be disturbing.

[davepc]

27. Thomas Jefferson would disagree with you.

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/


The Enlightenment concept of natural rights is fundamental to our system of government.

Jefferson was a humanist, and didn't have much use for the Christan concept of god as recognized by modern day fundies, but he and his peers weren't drafting a government based where rights were only what the king/mob/law book said they were. Rights are non-negotiable. We have them because we are, not because some person or group of people or piece of paper grants them.

[KansDem]

32. Does "God" and "Creator" mean the same thing?

I notice the statement wasn't written as that they are endowed by God with certain unalienable Rights but rather "their Creator." It appears Jefferson wanted each of us to be able to acknowledge our own origins, rather than a single God--one of which was used for millennia to suppress human rights.

...not because some person or group of people or piece of paper grants them.
But at the same time, it's nice to have a contract that spells out our rights in writing, just to refer to when needed...:)

[kay1864]

37. Unfortunately, the Declaration of Independence

has no legal bearing. Otherwise you'd have lawyers arguing in the Supreme Court that we have the legal right to the pursuit of happiness.

So question everything's post is correct.

[Bandit]

38. Funny during this time God didn't include black people

It took the US constitution and a Civil War to grant these rights to all Americans not just white men over twenty one. The US constitution grants me my rights not God....

[davepc]

49. If your rights come from a piece of paper...

what happens when somebody tears up that piece of paper?

The rights of man existed before god, kings, constitutions, and democracies, and will exist afterwords, until mankind no longer exists.

That governments conspire to infringe on those rights for their own purposes does not negate them.

If rights are derived from a consensus, or a dictate then they ebb and flow and can be changed. Did the black South Africans not have rights because their government say they did not? Did the Jews in Nazi Germany not have rights because the German Constitution said they didn't?

Or were their rights take away by the force of government, backed by violence?

[BOSSHOG]

21. "We Defend the Constitution"

That's a fucking lie. "Conservatives" don't give a flying dog fuck about the constitution because it dares give liberty to all citizens. "Conservatives" are the number one domestic enemy of the constitution. Our kids are dying so fuck sticks who call themselves "conservatives" think they can prevent all americans from having freedoms. They are scum who do not deserve constitutional liberties.

[seabeyond]

43. this is what "we" do get in lockstep with "we". lol lol lol i would

be going after the we...... listing out what we are suppose to be. we as in me, make my own judgements and decisions, there is no "we" anywhere in the mix. that is funny

good to here their "we" doesnt advocate murder. "they" need to talk to at least one radio dude in az

[malaise]

44. Has it dawned on them that

they've given up the lead in the polls. They are now the minority. It's over Freepers. Newt says it's time to pull out of Iraq :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Edit add.

[WilliamPitt]

53. "the mainstream media's attempts to destroy America's will to fight"

CNN's viewership went up 500% after 9/11. They made their bones, so to speak, covering the first Gulf war. NBC, CNBC and MSNBC are owned by a large defense contractor.

These networks are going to destroy our "will to fight" and thus deprive their owners of their most lucrative, most-watched content?

Yeah. Watch me hold my breath.

[fleabert]

61. disrespect + lowered morale of the troops? wtf?

I'll tell my Navy brother that next time we talk- he'll laugh his ass off!

[janx]

10. The Constitution Party is advertising in Freeperland...

trying to peel off some votes.

!

The Constitution Party on the War on Terror
The Constitution Party ^ | 4-11-06

Posted on 04/11/2006 8:31:43 AM MDT by SJackson

Since third parties, specifically the Constitution Party, have become an issue

Constitution Party on Immigration

Constitution Party gains strength, could hurt Republicans

I thought it might be helpful to look at issues other than immigration. The entire platform is in post 1, since there are issues other than the WOT and immigration.

Terrorism and Personal Liberty

America is engaged in an undeclared war with an ill-defined enemy (terrorism), a war which threatens to be never ending, and which is being used to vastly expand government power, particularly that of the executive branch, at the expense of the individual liberties of the American people.

The "war on terrorism" is serving as an excuse for the government to spend beyond its income, expand the Federal bureaucracy, and socialize the nation through taxpayer bailouts of the airlines, subsidies to the giant insurance corporations, and other Federal programs.

We deplore and vigorously oppose legislation and executive action, that deprive the people of their rights secured under the Fourth and Fifth Amendments under the guise of "combating terrorism" or "protecting national security." Examples of such legislation are the National Security Act, the USA PATRIOT Act, and the proposed Domestic Securities Enhancement Act (colloquially known as "Patriot II").

The National Security Act is used by the federal government as a shroud to prevent the American people and our elected officials from knowing how much and where our tax dollars are spent from covert operations around the world. The National Security Act prevents the release of Executive Orders and Presidential Decision Directives, e.g., PDD 25, to the American people and our elected representatives. Not only are many of these used to thwart justice in the name of national security, but some of the operations under this act may threaten our very national sovereignty.

The USA PATRIOT Act permits arrests without warrants and secret detention without counsel, wiretaps without court supervision, searches and seizures without notification to the individual whose property is invaded, and a host of other violations of the legal safeguards our nation has historically developed according to principles descending from the Fourth and Fifth Amendments.

Since we will no longer have a free nation while the federal government (or the governments of the several states, as the federal government may authorize) can violate our historic rights under such laws, we call for the rejection of all such laws and the ceasing of any such further proposals including the aforementioned Domestic Securities Enhancement Act.

The Constitution Party is unalterably opposed to the criminal acts of terrorists, and their organizations, as well as the governments which condone them. Individuals responsible for acts of terrorism must be punished for their crimes, including the infliction of capital punishment where appropriate. In responding to terrorism, however, the United States must avoid acts of retaliation abroad which destroy innocent human lives, creating enmity toward the United States and its people; and

In accord with the views of our Founding Fathers, we must disengage this nation from the international entanglements which generate foreign hatred of the United States, and are used as the excuse for terrorist attacks on America and its people. The 'war on terrorism" is not a proper excuse for perpetual U.S. occupation of foreign lands, military assaults on countries which have not injured us, or perpetual commitment of taxpayer dollars to finance foreign governments.

----------------------

Peroutka’s Plan for Iraq
April 16, 2004

"I like President Bush personally. He is a sincere man. I respect his office. But, it is becoming painfully obvious that he has no plan to get our country out of the un-Constitutional, bloody, deadly, mess going on in Iraq. In fact, Mr. Bush and John Kerry both favor putting more troops into Iraq. In his recent press conference, Mr. Bush said our troops would be in Iraq 'as long as necessary,' 'for a while,' until Iraq is 'a free country.' He said Iraqis would provide their own security 'eventually.' I strongly disagree. As President, I would move immediately to withdraw all our troops from Iraq in a way that would provide for the safety of those Iraqis who worked with us during this illegal, wrong-headed war.

"I, like President Bush, hope that the Iraqi people, and all people, will be free from tyranny. But, unlike President Bush, I realize that, Constitutionally, as President, it would not be my job to use our military to spread 'freedom' everywhere in the world. Unlike President Bush, I, as President, would realize that I had been elected President of the United States, not President of the World.

"In 1821, John Quincy Adams said, of America:

'She goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.'

But, ignoring Adams' wise advice, President Bush, using our military, has gone abroad and destroyed the monster Saddam Hussein who posed no threat to the vital national security interests of our country. The result: We are bogged down in a bloody and expensive mess with no end in sight. If elected President, however, I would move immediately to end our involvement in Iraq. I am not one who believes that when you are in a hole you should not be in, you should keep digging. "

For God, Family and the Republic,

Michael A. Peroutka

----------------------


Withdraw from Iraq-no democracy through warfare
Should the United States withdraw its troops from Iraq? A: Yes.

Peroutka says, "Article I.8 of the US Constitution does not grant to Congress the power of "nation-building." If I am elected President, no longer will these United States seek regime change nor the concept of spreading democracy through warfare, and the children within these United States will not be committed to engage in a war to `free' any people."

Michael Peroutka on VoteMatch

[TheBaldyMan]

67. We support marriage - one man, one woman

as long as it's brother and sister ?

I know it's childish to call someone names, especially those creepy, ignorant, lying pieces of crap that wrap their stinking carcasses in the flag but I couldn't resist it.

[KingFlorez]

3. I'm hoping the Constitution Party chokes off their vote

They are what will put an end to Republicans winning anything

[janx]

4. They want to pull out of Iraq.

They know the war is both illegal and immoral.

[janx]

11. LOOK!

To: SJackson
We call for the repeal of all federal firearms legislation, beginning with Federal Firearms Act of 1968.

We call for the rescinding of all executive orders, the prohibition of any future executive orders, and the prohibition of treaty ratification which would in any way limit the right to keep and bear arms.

This warms the cockles of my heart, as does the rest of this document. I truly hope these folks start rising in the ranks of gov't. It's time for a revolution in government, and the CP seems to be worth a look.

I'm sorry if everyone feels that they're barking up the wrong tree, but they espouse everything about this country and its laws that I agree with and wish the Republican'ts would see to.

Their tax platform is revolutionary, but I'm not sure if implementation would come with ease. I agree that the implementation of the current tax system is, in part anyway, unconstitutional, and I'd love to see the repeal of feel-good 20th century legislation that transformed this country into the pre-socialist utopia in which we live.

We're merely steps away from voting in a socialist majority in all branches of gov't, and barring a groundswell of support for radical change, we're going down the path of the EU and towards total takeover of American culture by the world's muslim and hispanic masses.
15 posted on 04/11/2006 9:20:01 AM MDT by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / Molwn Labe!)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1613055/posts

[NoPasaran]

29. "We're merely steps away from voting in a socialist majority"

You just can't beat hot cockles!

[janx]

30. They ARE steps away from losing Congress,

hyperbole aside...

[giant_robot]

50. I love this part:

I'd love to see the repeal of feel-good 20th century legislation that transformed this country into the pre-socialist utopia in which we live.

I guess that means a conservative dystopia is preferable to a pre-socialist utopia?

[janx]

23. ...

To: SJackson

I voted CP in '96 and '00. Peroutka in '04 called the Iraq action "immoral."

That tore it for me.

45 posted on 04/11/2006 9:51:37 AM MDT by sauropod ("War is the Devil's way of teaching Americans geography" - Ambrose Bierce)

[KingFlorez]

36. The truth tears it for them

It's not the right or left issues, it's about doing what is right and the war is just wrong

[Cleita]

55. From their website.

The Constitution Party. I went to their website and this is what they said:

The Democrats and Republicans have squandered the Founders' legacy of liberty and justice under the Constitution. Countless government officials in the legislative, executive, and judicial branches of government ignore their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution.

Join the Constitution Party in its work to restore our government to its Constitutional limits and our law to its Biblical foundations

http://www.constitutionparty.com /

That "...and our law to its Biblical foundations" really doesn't differentiate them from the neo-cons. However if they spoil the Republican vote, all well and good. They think they can upset the Repuke majority in Congress.

[Never Forget]

5. They march in lockstep...

It makes me sick how they all suck up to the owner Robinson. Bunch of asskissers! What's up with all that money he collects too? I don't buy those numbers for a second.

[marmar]

7. Reality is clearly causing some nervous breakdowns in right wing world...

Just a reminder: Free Republic is a conservative site

Posted on 04/11/2006 3:33:35 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Just a reminder: Free Republic is a conservative site. We fight for conservative principles, values and causes. We defend the Constitution. We defend our borders. We defend our God-given rights. We are opposed to the liberal/socialist/Marxist agenda for America. We do not willingly give up ground to the Marxists.

It's true that the illegal immigration issue is very discouraging, and I don't know if anyone has a solution that will appeal to conservatives and yet manage to get by Democrat obstructionism, ie, a filibuster, but I don't see that as any reason to give up everything. We should not allow it to rip us apart and destroy the movement. We fight on.


We hold the majority. We continue working as hard as we possibly can to elect as many conservatives as we possibly can. We build a conservative majority that can overcome the Democrats and the RINOs. We do not willingly give up any seats to Democrats. We add seats. Preferably, conservative seats.


I would also like to remind everyone, that Free Republic does not condone racism and does not advocate violence. We exercise our first amendment rights to free speech and peaceable assembly. We do not condemn people because of their race, religion, ethnicity, skin color, etc. We do not advocate civil war, anarchy, or an overthrow of the government. We do not advocate shooting illegals or mining the borders. We do not appreciate people coming across our borders illegally, but as conservatives, we do not issue racial epithets or threaten them with violence or bodily harm.



:nopity: :nopity:

[Nickster]

8. Heh, heh, heh......

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=146

Vote, page back, vote, page back, vote, page back....hmmm wonder if that works.

83...84....85.....

[shenmue]

12. Thanks for the warning

It's comical how they're falling apart.

[yellowcanine]

13. Wow - only 46% of Freepers will vote Republican if they are pissed off

about the immigration issue. Amazing if it were true. My guess is come November their lips will once again be locked tightly unto Republican butt.

[Bassic]

15. ???

would also like to remind everyone, that Free Republic does not condone racism...
That alone should tell liberals not to post here.


6 posted on 04/11/2006 3:37:43 AM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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:wtf:

[Alamom]

17. Responses to PEP TALK & the Poll Results

I would also like to remind everyone, that Free Republic does not condone racism...
That alone should tell liberals not to post here.



Do not get so discouraged that we give it all up. It could take generations to get it back. If ever..



Thanks for the encouraging words. However, its hard to feel encouraged when forced to choose between the 'Rats we know and "Republicans" we don't know. I voted for Bush TWICE. I have been a loyal and faithful Republican voter for 20 years. But now I don't know the party any more. That concerns me more than risking one or two elections.


POLL

Free Republic Opinion Poll: If the White House and GOP controlled congress does not act immediately to seal the borders, penalize employers who hire illegals and deport illegals when caught, how will it affect your vote in November?

I will continue to vote GOP

I will vote for the Democrat

I will vote third party

I will stay home



RESULTS

I will continue to vote GOP... 41.3% 875
I will vote third party........... 32.7% 693
I will stay home.................. 21.8% 462
I will vote for the Democrat ....4.2% 90
100.0% 2,120








:silly:



Edit: sp

[janx]

19. This individual voted for Bush TWICE and is now complaining?

?

[Kingshakabobo]

20. Freudian slip:

>>>I'll list a few issues (by no means and exhaustive list) that will be adversely affected by Marxist/Democrats in power:

Islamofascism/terrorism<<<<<

Is he saying Dems in control would be bad for Islamofascism/terrorism????

I agree.

Rim Job isn't the brightest bulb in the box, is he.

[janx]

22. YES.

That is what he wrote.

[Catrina]

24. They've been fighting over the port deal and immigration for months

Freepers are being thrown off the board every day and are going to other sites, like this one:

From a banned Freeper:

Up until tonight I was known on FR as "Flux Capacitor". I was finally banned for saying that I'd have no problem with seeing Bush impeached. At least, I think that was what it was for. I'm not sure.

'Cause I've been vocal against El Presidente for quite some time, and survived in this incarnation (this is my second banning) for two and half years. What's happened on the immigration front over the last week has awakened previously untapped reservoirs of outrage within me, though, and tonight, on my profile page, I posted the official White House portraits of Bill Clinton and George W. Bush alongside one another; I captioned the Clinton pic OUR FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT, and the Bush pic OUR FIRST MEXICAN PRESIDENT. I wonder....

Anyway, Jim Robinson showed up in the impeachment thread to assert, in one of the mouth-breathing one-liners for which he has become famous, that no advocacy of the impeachment of President Bush would be tolerated, period. Forget selling the country to Mexico; it seems that ol' George could kill a man with his bare hands live on national television, and the cult of personality that likes to call itself an open discussion forum on conservatism will still go to the mat for him. Thirty seconds later, I was history.

I'm surprised I lasted as long as I did, so blunt was I with the people who had traded their souls for two terms of hero-worship. Howlin was one of my favorites to deal with. I actually enjoyed sparring with that tiny-minded little North Carolinian ball of rage. She would show up on threads to which I was posting, throw out her typically snarky five-word dismissal of the subject and all who agreed/disagreed with it, and then tell me that I was "stalking" her. Then she'd alert the Official FR Sewing Circle (a group including but by no means restricted to posters such as onyx, ohioWfan, sinkspur, and many other sycophants) and the piling on would begin. Then I got the chance to tweak an entire group of Howlins. Good times.


http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-20911.html

This poll says that 14 Freepers will vote Dem next time.

I bet JimRob will offer an amnesty to bounced Freepers soon before the whole board goes down ~ they're leaving in droves~ They think he's being paid by Rove. For once I agree with them. :rofl:


Free Republic Opinion Poll: If the White House and GOP controlled congress does not act immediately to seal the borders, penalize employers who hire illegals and deport illegals when caught, how will it affect your vote in November?

Composite Opinion
I will continue to vote: GOP 41.2% 875
I will vote third party: 32.6% 693
I will stay home 21.8%: 462
I will vote for the Democrat: 4.4% 93
100.0% 2,123

Member Opinion
I will continue to vote GOP: 45.9% 503
I will vote third party: 32.8% 359
I will stay home: 20.1% 220
I will vote for the Democrat: 1.3% 14
100.1% 1,096

Non-Member Opinion
I will continue to vote GOP: 36.2% 372
I will vote third party: 32.5% 334
I will stay home: 23.6% 242
I will vote for the Democrat: 7.7% 79
100.0% 1,027

[janx]

28. I'd like to have a beer with that poster!

:rofl:

[Monk06]

39. Freepers are being thrown off the board every day

As someone who was recently banned from FR I can vouch for that.

JimRob banned several hundred members on Crevo threads alone.
Now he's moved on to Economic contrarians who don't drink the
strong economy koolaid. Most recently WillieGreen got the boot.

His crime? Well researched posts on the unsustainablity of US
deficits.

I got banned by FReeper stalker Godebert/Alan Gotlieb of
www.keepandbeararms.com fame for having the gall to say raffling
AK 47's on a University Campus was not in the best interests
of higher education.

I had good relations with a handful of sensible FReepers for
almost two years. I even had a few laughs on the way. Now they
are all gone, yours truly included.

[Catrina]

41. Hi welcome to DU ~

Do you think, like some of the other Freepers, that their funding is in bad shape, but they are getting money from the RNC? I noticed their fund-drive is still going on. Some of the ex-freepers think Rove is funding them now.

Scary, the reason you were banned ~ so they think kids should be carrying AK 47s to College? God, these people really are nuts.

There won't be anyone left if he keeps throwing them off ~ they seem to be on a rampage.

[Monk06]

48. Freeper Funding

JimRob may be having trouble raising money through FReepathons but
I don't think it's critical. I do think he's alienated a large number
of his best informed and loyal members/customers with the recent Zot wars.

He is now floating the idea of dropping Freepathons in favor of a
$5.00 per month subscription/donation. The previous FReepathon had
a $64,000 target. This time the target $54,000 and only 80% there
after three weeks.

Right now he's raking in $120,000 per year give or take.
If 100,000 members kick in $5.00 per month that's a cool
$6 Million per year in undeclared PAC money. If 22% contribute
that's still a mil.

Make no mistake FR is a Republican PAC.

Personally I think JR wants to drop the funding drives because
only a few high buck Republican operatives are contributing.
Just look at the sudden jump in contributions from 18$ to 30%
to 60%. Some big donors are using FR as a front.

Also with all the Zotting FR has turned into a drive-by echo
chamber of talking points and political slander not to mention
overt racism as recent anti-immigrant posters have demonstrated.

The knuckle dragger's have taken over the site and the big money
boys are not happy.

[Catrina]

56. Thanks, but how does anyone really know how many members

he has? You're right that if he does have 100,000 he could take in quite a bit the way you outline.

If the 'big money boys' aren't happy with the site the way it is now, then why is he throwing people off?

I do agree that FR is a Republican pac and a very active one ~ or was. I read over there last week that several Fox 'news' commentators are freepers, at least three that I could see. So much for Fox's claim to be fair and balanced.

Do they pressure people to donate? They seemed to be doing that last time I looked, even new people. I wouldn't stay on a site that demanded a donation the minute I got there ~ seems like desperation tactics to me.

[Monk06]

57. why is he throwing people off?

It may have come to your notice (it did to me) that JimRob is not
the smartest chimp in the cage.

His personal posts read like a civics essay written by a less than talented
high school sophomore.

His latest post is an exercise in fire control because the site has been
taken over by a cabal of anti-immigrant racists who don't shrink from terms
like 'wet back'.

He wanted to emphasis that FR is more than a single issue site. He also stated
in the same post that ANY criticism of Bush would result in an immediate ban.

Yes, he said that out loud, on the Internet for all the world to see even though
a healthy 30% to 40% of Freepers are now anti-Bush. This group includes Libertarians
and Born Again Evangelical Rapture Monkeys. How's that for an unlikely coalition?

The response to his dire warning? Freeper revolt.

One FReeper posted an IBTZ and another replied that posting 'vanities' in
'breaking news' was against the posting rules.

Ouch!!!!!!! That's gotta leave a mark!!!!!!!

For my own part, as revenge for banning me from FR, I emailed JR and told him
I was banning him from the ENTIRE COUNTRY OF CANADA.

Toward this end I emailed the PM's office and advised Prime Minister Steven Harper
to avoid all contact or offers of support from Jim Robinson, Alan Gotlieb or
anyone else associated with Free Republic.

On a related note, after being banned from FR I joined Free Dominion, FR's sister
site in Canada and was banned before I even posted. It turns out that Free Rebublic
has taken over Free Dominion. If you're banned from FR you are automatically
banned from FD. Free Dominion is now hosted in the US and should no longer be
considered a Canadian site.

Freaky huh?????

[Catrina]

58. *lol* ~ from the little I know of him, I have to agree, JimRob is not the

brightest, or the most consistent individual in the world. I also remember reading that he was involved in some sort of sordid sex thing before he started FR.

Just trying to stop any negative comments about Bush right now is a pretty hopeless excercise. Having one small site with a few radicals who still support him, won't help much, imo.

I read a post by one of the ex-freepers which quoted JimRob from before the 2000 election on Bush. Someone should post that there now, he slammed bush, calling him a 'cokehead' and saying he had enough of 'cokeheads' in the WH! It was amazing. I wonder what changed his mind?

I've also discovered from FR, that JimRob used to be a Democrat! :rofl:

May I ask why you posted for so long on FR? Were you a mole, or are you a conservative? I'm not sure what to think about what's happening on FR. JimRob sounds posively liberal on the Immigration issue.

So, JimRob runs a Canadian site as well as this one? Interesting! Sorry you weren't able to carry out your threat! :-)

He claims he is not funded by anyone, that he operates completely on donations from members.

Some of the freepers are accusing him of being paid by Karl Rove. Maybe Rove posts there and donates big amounts of money during the fundraisers

I've never seen FR like this ~ I read some of the posts there and some have left, rather than wait to be banned. It seems he kicked some off for advocating violence at the border. I would have to agree with him about that.

Btw, what does IBTZ mean? :-)

[Monk06]

59. May I ask why you posted for so long on FR?

On some of the energy and business posts there used
to be a few posters with an education and a brain in
there heads but they're all gone now.

I also hate Canada bashers who know nothing about Canada
but continually post BS about Canadian Medicare and Trade
issues.

IBTZ means In Before the Zot.

It's a game FReepers play.
The object is to get a post in before a Troll is banned.
The poster in question was basically calling JimRob a Troll
on his own website. That be some serious disrespectin' o' the boss
and very funny. The poster wasn't banned for saying it so I
guess JR was too embarrassed or else too ignorant to get the joke.

"Sorry you weren't able to carry out your threat!"

I did carry out my threat. I emailed Steven Harper and named
names. JimRob and Gotlieb. I left out Jeff Gannon because Stevo
Harper is a little shy about male prostitutes in high places.

Speaking of sex. I recall the JR sex scandal.

JimRob started a nude wheelchair stick hockey league but had
to disband it because his stick wasn't long enough to reach
the ground. Knowing his personality, he would never play a
game where he had the shortest dick....er....stick.

He is also a Viet Nam Vet. He spent two months in-country de-worming
Gen Bill Westmoreland's pet poodle.

After that cushy gig he was reassigned to Kerry's swift boat and was
put on galley duty and had to clean the head.

He also flipped out when Kerry crossed into Cambodia and John Boy had
to slap him around a bit. That's why Jim has such a hate on for Kerry
and denies til this day that Kerry was in Cambodia on Christmas.

[Catrina]

77. *rotfl* ~ that's quite a mental image you just painted ~ glad I'm not

eating at the moment! JR naked in a wheelchair with a bunch of other naked freepers! Too much! You have quite a sense of humor! 'Shortest ... well, I have to agree with you there! :rofl:

He doesn't seem to 'stick' to his convictions though. He's been all over the place, a Dem, then a Conservative Bush hater to a naked wheelchair stick hockey player (how do the fundies feel about that, I wonder?) to a Bushbot! Freepers are easily fooled it seems.

I'm really fascinated by your last paragraph. He really was on Kerry's Swiftboat? I hadn't heard that before! Cleaning the head? He's obviously got issues with Kerry other than politics, it seems! :rofl:

No wonder he hosted the SBV on his site ~ assuming all this is true ~ life is strange and the world is a small place so it's very possible. Seems everyone is still fighting that war ~ so many have issues still to work out, to our detriment. I wonder if in 30 years, Bush's ill-conceived war will be impacting a future presidential election?

Love your comment about Harper (how DID you guys ever let that happen, after watching what we're going through here?) and Jimmy/Jeff. He too was a freeper. Not sure if you knew that ~

[enigmatic]

63. Welcome To DU

I'm an Expat here in Canada and love it here; I'm glad you signed up..

[Monk06]

64. Where are you living? I'm on the wet coast. n/t

[enigmatic]

65. Edmonton

Been here 5 years this July; since I'm become obsessed w/ Curling and go to Tim Hortons at least once a week I consider myself assimilated:)

[Monk06]

66. I've become obsessed w/ Curling and go to Tim Hortons

ASSIMILATED????????

Hell your more Canadian than I am and I was born here.

I can't even skate.

Please tell me you can't skate. If you do the humiliation
would be too much.

[enigmatic]

68. I used to play Hockey as a kid

but I haven't put on a pair of skates in years, even though my wife keeps threatening to drag me out to the neighborhood rink every winter!

Seriously, I love it here; it's home now..

[Monk06]

70. I used to play Hockey as a kid

OK, I suck. I'm big enough to admit it.

But I have an excuse. When I was young we didn't have enough
money for skates for all of us at Christmas so my brother got
the hockey gear.

He was scouted by the Leafs when he was a midget and still
plays in the old boys league.

How about mountain biking? I'm sure I could kick your ass at
that.

[enigmatic]

71. I bike everywhere

Don't own a car:) I love single-tracking in the bush, especially in the mountains by Jasper, though we haven't made it down to Banff yet. I have a heavy steel frame MB that I ride now; it does have the flex that the CroMo has, but it's a beast on the city streets in the winter which I ride to and from work with..

If you ever visit Edmonton look me up; we've got some greats trails around...

[Monk06]

74. So you're a mountain biker? .............

I think I have you beat there. I ride a '93 Cannondale Delta V.

Obsolete but still serviceable. XT/XTR component mix plus
Chris King hubs on Mavic rims.

I was riding single trac ten years ago on Grouse Mountain.

Single Trac turned into Free Ride around 1997.

Catch the vids on the link. It's pretty wacky.

http://www.nsmb.com/videos/

[salin]

69. fascinating reading your comments per free republic

can't say that I have read many threads over there - but I did learn a few things, such as dinosaurs *were* on Noah's ark, and that Jesus was an American (some history channel poll on the greatest american in history, garnered outrage of a few who thought it was a clear example of media bias that Jesus wasn't included in the poll...)

Welcome aboard DU gbrooks!

[Monk06]

72. Thanks. I'm feeling at home already. BTW Jesus is Canadian....

He works in the sawmill in Mackenzie, on the head rig of course.

[salin]

73. lol

don't tell Jr (W), know telling what he might do. ;-)

[Patsy Stone]

26. RINOs?

Who are they? Where is the list? :)

[wtmusic]

31. I didn't even know I was a Marxist

Lotsa great info over there.

[janx]

33. The place is imploding.

Check this out:

!

Bush's Disapproval Rating Hits 60 Percent, Worst of Any President!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1613089/posts

[wtmusic]

34. "Hey don't attact the messenger

because you don't like the message."

Now I must go wash my hands.

[janx]

35. That one made me

:rofl:

[distantearlywarning]

75. It's funny.

I have no doubt that if the polls were all going their way, they would all find some reason to believe that polls were the most accurate measures ever of how good a job a president is doing.

We all have biases. But the difference between Freepers and me (and most of the rest of you all) is that I at least acknowledge that I have them and try to evaluate information I hear with that knowledge in mind. Every time I read posts from that site, I just shake my head over the total lack of self-awareness over there. It's not even what they say. It's that they just have no clue at all about themselves and how they think. They have no idea that they might just possibly be wrong or not thinking clearly about something. And they immediately discard absolutely everything that doesn't fit their world view regardless of the evidence. It's crazy. Sometimes I think if God Himself came down and said "George Bush sucks!" they would boot him off the site and then spend 500 posts discussing exactly why God was mistaken and how they were right. I've seen DUers do those kind of dumb things too, but it just seems to be way more prevalent over there.

[trixie]

40. Before I click on your links.....

:popcorn:

[trixie]

47. The education level over there is not too high

Oh where to start.....how about link by link..

"We are the Conservative party...." Is it like membership in a gang? Will they "beat" you out if you don't comply. Apparently debate, dialog, exchange of ideas and free speech are not held very highly. "We are not racist" :rofl:

Constitution Party - or as I like to call it the party where Pat Robertson is the "brainy" one. Let's see they don't want to have personal rights, no education, no taxes, no SS and on and on. Maybe we should just pitch a tent in a field and let anarchy reign. The funny thing is that the framers of the CP are wealthy and are depending on the lower classes ie freepers, to hoist them up financially. Non Christians need not apply or live in the Fascist States of America.

I am sorry I have laughed until my head hurts.... more later.

[mr blur]

42. "Marxist"?

You know, I don't believe that any of these people has the faintest idea what a Marxist is, or believes in. By "Marxist" they appear to mean anyone to the left of Ronald Reagan.

[MadisonProgressive]

46. They're having orgasms now!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1613288/posts

[genieroze]

51. My eyes

:puke:

[stanwyck]

54. "she is quiet (sic) rational"

too funny.

[NMMNG]

60. I'm afraid to look....

Did somebody bludgeon a gay person or illegal immigrant to death?

[SoCalDem]

62. At least they are usung a flattering picture of her