Seriously though: if we attack Iran... who is outta here? and where to?

[slybacon9]

and how fast?

[RebelOne]

1. Attach Iran to what?

[slybacon9]

2. heh heh... well it's friggin late... but attach it to your butt!

just kiddin. thanks for the catch... that's all i needed to wake up to tomorrow.

[cyclezealot]

3. We escaped.

We now live in ROussillon . Expats from our beautiful California. Not California's fault that BUsh is destroying the US and the world. My fear. Will BUsh's fanaticism at starting a new world war push us closer to a nuclear explosion than you are?
But, then Bush wants to start a whole new set of nuclear explosions with his bunker busters in Nevada.Hope the Native Americans' can stop Bush's Madness.
a ps. an asside, our mail going to/from the US has been opened three times? always by mistake? Hope the Marines don't attack France.

[bigscott]

4. Amsterdam

or Berlin. Or Rome. Maybe Prague

[cyclezealot]

10. Amsterdam

Well If bush brings about Armaggedon, can always eat Amsterdam's famous fudge.

[CarlSheeler4U]

5. It's serious

Iran, unlike Iraq, has not had a depleted military from the vestiges of
Desert Storm. Iran has received support from China, Russia and France.

Assuming the world's most advanced countries opted to stay on the
sidelines, do we believe that any support would be avaiable for any
subsequent attack on the US?

How could we say such an attack on our civilians was not justified
beacuse we empowered our leaders to do nothing to prevent it from
occuring? The civilian casualities would be enormous there
(Iran)...and what about blowback, as if our foreign and energy policies
since the mid 1900's are not bad enough?

How does this legitimately differ from invading Poland, Czechlosavkia
and Austria? The same saber-rattling applied as justification. Let's
say we can do it, because we can. Does this result in "might makes
right?"

What then would prevent China from invading Taiwan and South Korea
under similar pretenses? Venezuela would seek Russian support to
protect its borders and the whole option of preventive first strikes
creates justification (remember Pearl Harbor?). How about a Sino-Russo
pact if things get hairy?

The point is right here, right now we will either watch in the manner
German citizens did in the late 1930's and early 1940's as their young
men are recruited for the "noble" cause or we will act with resolve
sooner than later.

The alternative to this debacle is cut the BS and invest the tens or
hundreds of billions needed to produce alternative energy instead of
maintaining occupancy of Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan, which if one
bothers to examine on a world map border each other and puts Russia in
the unenviable position of spooling up its own military, nuclear
arsenal and reformation of the former Soviet bloc. Yes, hthe US will have a decisive first strike, but the occupation will be a bettle of attrition.

This is not a movie, this is a real take. I warned a group of College
Democrats at Brown in November that this could occur before 2010 and
they looked at me like I went to public school, which I did.

Being a Marine vet with combat and staff planning experience forces one
to think of the world in pieces of a puzzle with "what if" planning.

Now folks understand why I believe that post election 2006 and waiting
till 2008 is way too late for Impeachment. Further, putting the US in
a battle footing has historic foundation in political motivation.

The public seldom changes its elected officials in time of war and it
opens a third nightmare scenario where King George's toilet paper
called our Constitution has its amendment removed permitting a third
term in office. I think it's time to restore the color coded alerts
and declare that our country is at a red alert and the threat is from
within.

I welcome folks' thoughts and input.

Carl
Sheeler for US Senate (D-RI)
www.carlsheeler.com
[e-mail]

[cyclezealot]

12. we need get behind this guy.

He will make Feingold look like a wimp.

[CarlSheeler4U]

16. You're kind. Tough up hill battle... shared pushing will do nicely!

[slybacon9]

22. Woooow Carl, Thanks! And...

I totally agree...

"How does this legitimately differ from invading Poland, Czechlosavkia
and Austria? "

There is not much difference in my eyes either. I try to explain that to righties all the time. The germans thought they were right to and that was fuled by a government funded news media that spread lies and hatred. Sound familiar?

Good luck with your campaign!

[merbex]

6. Who'd take us?We would be pariahs (To use a biblical expression)

We need a victory in Nov.

[cali]

7. I'm staying in Vermont

even if bushco bombs Iran. This is my home. I won't leave it because of this hideous adminsitration. bushco is not the country.

[cyclezealot]

13. heah. but Scalia's supreme court

Might convert your kids to some weird cultish sect.

[jukes]

8. venezualia

i can get a job training militia.

[bklyncowgirl]

9. Maybe if Bush nukes Iran Rapture will happen leaving us here on earth.

The Fundamentalists will all get raptured up to Jesus and we the sinners will get all their stuff.

I'm hanging around just in case that happens. Got my eye on a nice house down the block with two new cars with the fish sign on them.

Cool.

[cyclezealot]

11. When bush's rapture comes.

We can all claim their homes. ? I know of one in Del Mar, California. Will be a pretty nice life.

[Skinner]

14. I'm not going anywhere. (nt)

[distantearlywarning]

15. The husband and I

are already saving money in case this happens. And we have been having serious discussions about how to put our personal affairs in order (what happens to the cats, our furniture and other stuff, ect.). I personally no longer want to be part of this nation if we have an unprovoked nuclear strike on any nation (even Iran, who I think is ruled by a bunch of nutjobs too). We will be leaving, the only question is where we can afford to go when it happens.

[paparush]

17. I'm going to DC to throw Bricks!!!

Then, I'm headed to south america....the fallout patterns aren't as potentially deadly south of the equator.

[AngryAmish]

18. I'd go somewhere warmer

like Florida or Scottsdale. Lots of golf courses there.

[0007]

19. I'll stay and fight until I die.

[bdamomma]

20. will any of us

be the "tank man" and stand up to this miserable regime. Bush needs to be removed, he hears voices in his head, any of us would be in a psychiatric hospital getting treatment, that is what bush needs. Seriously.

[jukes]

21. america is finished

we'll never be able to undo the damage that our democracy has suffered.