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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:57 AM
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*PAY INTERNET * while surfing? kill internet ? R's Passed this Bill,
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 06:56 AM by capi888
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/4/11/194439/884

Snuck it past us: House subcommittee voted to kill Internet

A House subcommittee handed phone companies a victory Wednesday by voting 27-4 to advance a bill that would make it easier for them to deliver television service over the Internet and clearing the way for all Internet carriers to charge more for speedier delivery.

The lopsided vote was a defeat for Internet and technology firms like Google and Microsoft, which had hoped to amend the bill to enforce a principle called network neutrality and preserve the status quo under which all Internet traffic is treated equally.

Earlier in the day, the subcommittee voted 23-8 to reject an amendment by Rep. Ed Markey, D-Mass., that would have inserted specific language designed to enforce network neutrality and prevent the feared creation of fast and slow lanes on the Internet.
More....
Had to edit the link...it works now
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:59 AM
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1. Brand W repubs act again.
Only way to limit future such damage is to remind everyone that a vote for any repub in congress is a Brand W vote invitation for more destruction of the American way of life.
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:05 AM
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13. So True
These guys will go to NO lengths to squelch our voices and they know the internet is our strength..grassroots.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:12 AM
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2. Republicans need to get people off the Internet.
It's the only media they don't control. Pretty damn sad. Perhaps the Democrats (Gov. Dean, you listening?) can make free access to the internet a major commitment in the November election.
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:22 AM
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3. Here is the Kicker.
I am from Michigan, and the Congressman from my area (R)FRED UPTON, is the one who wrote the Bill. He was on C-Span, discussing the Bill this past week. I was mortified to hear that it passed to committee. The sh** is going to hit the fan, when people realize they want their TV programming,internet provider, telephone ALL owned by a FEW companies. WHAT do you think is going to happen to those greedy companies. HIGH RATES. I want UPTON OUT...he is up for election. He is being challenged by KIM CLARK...he sounds great...I read his bio..and is totally against media control by big companies. He is a Professor of Screening at DuPaul University. This is insane, taking our rights away, can we say the FIRST amendment.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:42 AM
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6. You have got to know big business will want control of the internet
Power companies wanted all the power lines and plants that tax payers put in because there was not enough money in for business to do it. When it was done at tax payers cost they took it over. This will be the same. Congress will sell it off. Even people who vote GOP can see that. For some odd reason they think their will be no bad control with big business or I guess that is how they think.
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 07:06 AM
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8. Indeed.
Also limit the grassroots from getting GOP negative information. Its a Rotten Shame. We need to write ALL our Congress Criters...SAVE THE INTERNET!!!
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darkmaestro019 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 07:14 AM
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11. ....I never knew that....you learn something every day
unfortunately these last six years it's been an unpleasant something.


I'm checking this out, now. Thank you for the new direction to search in (before I'm not able to do so at all ) : )
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 07:20 AM
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12. Your very Welcome ! N/T
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:22 AM
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4. Does this mean even though I dont have
broadband or DSL that I will still be paying more..I dont understand what this is all about..I live in a rural area and for me to get a high speed service it will be a couple years yet ..Will my ISP bill increase or when I access the internet is there a charge to access certain sites??
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:32 AM
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5. Yes indeed! I EDITED THE LINK...GO READ!!
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 06:49 AM by capi888
If the Phone Co. own the phone lines, they will up their prices. However, there are solutions to internet service for Rural America. StarBand and Direct Way. Both are via Satellite. I am a Dish Network Dealer in rural Michigan. We sell StarBand, however, Dish Network is coming out with their Satellite for internet, this fall. It is JUST as fast as DSL and priced economically. I worked on it at our summit! I am sure its going to be comparitively priced for service. StarBand and Direct Way are pricey. From what I understand, It will be affordable for ALL people. I won't know more until mid-summer.
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:58 AM
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7. Attention....
I kicked this up, as this effects everyone here. I changed the Link address.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:29 AM
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15. We have Dish but cable internet
Will cable be affected by this?

I've also heard that satellite internet is only one way (downstream); uploading happens over your regular phone line, is that true for Dish's new service?
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:15 AM
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22. I had satellite internet for a while. It is both up and down
I didn't have a landline.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:20 AM
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26. Thanks, katinmn. (nt)
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 07:09 AM
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9. In light of the fact that people on the internet know what is really......
...going on and internet people are spreading the word to the "offline" world we all know this was coming sooner or later. They can't have us internet junkies knowing the truth much longer, we might screw up their plans.
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 07:11 AM
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10. You are so RIGHT!!
This truly SMELLS Rovian...
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:07 AM
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14. "charge more for speedier delivery". Bull.
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 08:07 AM by HypnoToad
I've seen rates rise, but it's for the same speed.
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:34 AM
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17. Thats just the beginning.
When you have only a few companies owning access, the sky is the limit. I sure hope we write our Congress Critters and STOP this insanity.
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:33 AM
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16. Copy the link and start emailing this petition to EVERYONE you
know. Use the INTERNET to let people know the INTERNET is being corrupted. Send to all of the Repugs you know too. Even they must realize this will not be a good thing.
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:36 AM
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18. Good Idea!!!
I think you are right...Pugs won't like it either!
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:50 AM
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19. Please keep this kicked....
We need to stop this...
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:08 AM
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20. It's much worse: Paying per e-mail; paying per minutes/hours;
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 09:13 AM by WinkyDink
paying per site, differing rates depending on site category.
Paying every which way.
Accesss limited to credit-card holders.

The RushLimbaughing of the Internet, with liberal voices in the wilderness.

Oh, yes: And all of this would mean ZERO privacy, as all visited sites and their costs would be on a credit-card statement.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:09 AM
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21. grrrrrrr
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:19 AM
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23. I predict places like democratic underground becoming
a model for "neutrality" on these internets. Traffic will spin off into a "black market" or internet underground where freedom rings from every network router. Many people will refuse this. The "fencing" in of the internet can't be controlled like the subdivision of land. It's just too cybery and subject to technological change to be monopolized like that.

We'll have "surfer owned" websites and so forth.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:22 AM
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24. K & R! (& Done )
Sheesh! How far are we from this happeneing? If Dems take Congress, can they do anything about this?
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:29 AM
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25. Just went into hearings.
With all the problems for this administration, prolly will take time to make through, hearing, congress vote. So, its not immediate, but we need to move on this NOW!!! Alert all your connections, even R's as they aren't going to like paying for it either...
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 12:05 PM
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27. Good job--your alert!
R&K
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