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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:03 PM
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I wonder - is there any way to save the lives about to be lost in Iran?
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 02:03 PM by baby_mouse
Would be nice to think so, wouldn't it?

Would there be any point in Iran making nice with the "International Community?" Didn't help Saddam, did it?
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:12 PM
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1. coup
Immediate military coup here in the US. Hopefully benevolent. Probably our only chance. Congress too dependent on lobbyist money/special interest groups.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:30 PM
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3. Don't see it happening....
military sold their souls to defense contractors for $$$$$$$$$ big dollars.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:37 PM
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6. Also, substantial numbers of them think George is Jesus #2

metaphorically. And literally, in some cases, I suspect.

The Air force is a bit odd these days.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:47 PM
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9. Good point...n/t
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:36 PM
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14. This situation is very disturbing ...
I don't know when I've been so "freaked out" over the possiblity of Nuclear War. :scared:
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:44 PM
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15. Welcome to the 80s!

I thought they'd bring them back in the end. It feels just like home to me...!
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4freethinking Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:54 PM
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10. It depends
on what "on edge" means. Sy Hersh does not mention names but he has been right about many things. They may be moved by the use of nuclear weapons or impending economic disaster(what would be the aftermath of an attack on Iran)
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:14 PM
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2. I'm banging my head
against the wall.....trying to figure out how to stop this...it's very frustrating....
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:32 PM
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4. keep spreading the word, experts say Iran is 10 years away from
having the bomb.
http://www.juancole.com/2006/04/iran-can-now-make-glowing-mickey-mouse.html

This is the second expert I've heard say this. The first was a guest on The Daily Show. Don't remember his name.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:37 PM
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5. I'm not convinced that this will change... anything...

Cos it's georgie porgie that has his finger on the button and not you or I or the media or anyone with any brains. And no-one can stop him.

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:46 PM
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8. I was looking for your original post and couldn't find it...
here is the link, I believe this is the person we're talking about Reza Aslan, author of No God, But God.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400062136/103-2119064-3305420?n=283155
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:02 PM
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17. yes, yes, yes, thank you!
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 04:03 PM by Hamlette
I self deleted my post because someone here posted a link to Juan Cole's article. It wasn't that I wanted the name of the guy so much as I wanted to know if yesterday's news about Iran having produced enriched uranium changed the 10 year time table. According to Cole it does not.

(I saw your post and tried to reply but I guess when I self deleted it...vanished! Thanks for remembering the guy from Jon Stewart and providing the link to the book.)
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:00 PM
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13. If Iran had the bomb today, would they launch an attack on their
geographically close enemy Israel? In that case, the prevailing winds would blow the radiation right back over Iran. Plus, they would be jumped on by the rest of the world. Or, would they decide to attack the U.S. with a couple of nukes? What could they possibly gain from such a boneheaded move.
Or, would they store nukes to be used only if they are pre-emptively attacked by some genius like Bush? They know that the Bushco is after the oil.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:40 PM
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7. If I knew anyone in Iran I'd tell them to move as far away as possible
...from any sites related to nuclear energy & research. But other than that, I believe Mad King George will do what he likes regardless of what anyone says and nothing we do will stop him.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:56 PM
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11. If Russia and China would publicly threaten U.S. with nuclear annihlation
if U.S. resorted to first use of nukes, that might put the nuclear option back in the box.

Likewise, if Iran could form a mutual defense pact with Russia and\or China (similar to what Poland had with France and Great Britain pre-1939), that might act as a check.

I'm not enough of a geo-strategist to be able to think these scenarios all the way through. But I have become convinced that the rest of the world is going to have to unite against us to save the world from us. I'm really sorry to have to say that. I never thought I would.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:45 PM
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16. I thought Iran already WAS aligned with Russia?

???
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:56 PM
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12. Hey Iranians: RUN!!!!
... bout all I can think of... :(
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