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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:30 PM
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Giving unconditional respect because of Title and Position.
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 03:33 PM by asSEENonTV
I've heard that since day one of the shrubs illegitimate term in office.

"He's our President and it's my American obligation to respect him."

Thats the general idea of the comment.

Family and unconditional love - OK
But officials in government - They must earn respect.

I am ashamed of the office and do not wish to partake in blind, unconditional respect for him.
I hope more and more thinking people will agree - bush is WAY out of his league and killing America.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:31 PM
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1. Just ask them if they gave unconditional respect to Clinton
That should shut them up pretty quickly
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:36 PM
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4. Exactly.
Or Conyers, Pelosi, Boxer, Feingold, Kucinich, etc. etc. etc.



Love your sig & avatar, asSEENonTV. :)
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:33 PM
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2. Bingo. Like they did to Clinton. nt
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:36 PM
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3. In the words of a truly great American patriot
"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."

President Theodore Roosevelt, editorial to the Kansas City Star
May 7, 1918
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:36 PM
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5. Someone told me that "we should all be behind (i.e. support) them (B-C)."
I told this person how Darth Cheney was soundly and loudly booed at the season opening game of the Nationals. The person responded by saying that "we should all be behind (i.e. support) them (B-C)."

I think that this attitude is because this is a person who does not keep up with state or national politics, international events, has no cable or satellite TV, does not read the major state paper, only has a high school education, is very pro-gun and attends a conservative, rural, Southern church.

This person has a young son and you would think they'd be concerned about a possible draft or the son joining the military and getting killed.

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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:38 PM
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6. I agree, and feel the same way about it given to PEOPLE.
Adhere to principles, not people, parties or positions.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:38 PM
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7. Do you think the Fundies or the GOP or both started this obligation thing?
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 03:56 PM by CottonBear
I would really like to throw the Clinton example of complete disrespect for not only the 8 years he was in office but for the 6 years after he left office. :grr:
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:39 PM
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8. It's our American obligation to keep an eye on him!
The point of electing leaders is to keep the people in charge. The point of open government is to make us able to stop corruption. Demanding respect for the office is a somewhat low-grade form of treason. It's an attempt to make the president into a king.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:39 PM
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9. You can have respect for the office, but you don't have to respect the man
in that office.

You can have respect for the office of the President of the United States. You do not respect George W. Bush, though. He has lied to Americans. He has started a war under false pretenses. He has moved our jobs overseas.

He isn't doing his job, and doesn't deserve any respect. And he's proven that time and time again.
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:42 PM
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10. I do give respect for the office of POTUS,
but the man that hold that office must earn respect.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:45 PM
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11. NONSENSE--Politicians are SERVANTS of the people
It's the job of the politicians to RESPECT and SUPPORT the damn electorate, not the other way around. And we, the electorate, have EARNED the respect--this country has lasted this long BECAUSE of the voting public. It's the job of the Monkey not to fuck that up, and to try to earn our reciprocal respect. He's just about out of time, though--he should have been working that angle starting back in 00.

Sometimes, it's just too late, baby.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:15 PM
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12. ...Governments should respect their *people*.
To paraphrase V.

Nowhere in the Constitution is respect mandated for any elected or appointed official. Respect is either earned or not, and no wishful thinking by *-bots will earn him any more.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:20 PM
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13. I would never give ANYONE unconditional love
and respect. In my family, I can not trust my sister because she is an alcoholic and drug addict and will lie, cheat and steal in order to get money to drink. I can not trust my niece, because money is more important to her than family. I can not trust my adopted brother because he, too, is an alcoholic.

On the other hand, I wholeheartedly agree with you--anyone else who wants my respect must earn it--completely and sincerely. And there ain't NO WAY that a feller with the last name of Bush (except Jay Bush, who sells beans ;)) is ever gonna get my trust or respect! :hi:

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